Democratic Policy Committee - Investigating CIA Leak - CSpan NOW 10:36 AM

[Oilwellian]

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[phillybri]

1. Feed the cube rats....

Please!!!

[Catch22Dem]

2. Ya know

I've been coming to DU for about 2.5 years now, and the one thing I've determined is, I've GOT to get a TV in this room. :)

[LittleApple81]

5. Do you have a slow connection? I am in my office and I have

Cspan on the computer. I don't need to look at their faces, so it works pretty well.

[jbfam4]

6. see and hear it on your computer

http://cspan.org/ Go to the right hand side of the page and click on C_span to play it on your computer.

[Twig]

9. Your link is incorrect

Here you go: http://www.c-span.org/

TWIG

[jbfam4]

12. Twig

thanks for your help...I appreciate it.

[Catch22Dem]

49. Thanks guys (gals?)

I appreciate it. I guess the thought never even crossed my mind.

[Oilwellian]

3. Let's see

We have Harkin, Rockefeller, Daschle, Graham and can't see the 5th Senator who will be questioning 3 CIA (probably ex) officials about the leak. Opening statements are being made now and it looks like they're gonna come out swinging. :D

ON EDIT: Also Lautenburg (sp?) and Levin

[eleny]

7. Levin and Lautenberg, too

Where are the Repubs?

[Oilwellian]

10. The Republicans?

They only eat their own when they don't bow down to King George. Apparently, outing an agent whose husband exposed their lie about Saddam buying Niger uranium is ok with them. :eyes:

[eleny]

14. I figured they'd be there for damage control

This is a "conspicuous by their absence" deal. Frankly, I'm glad they aren't there.

Larry Johnson is really controlling himself. Seems like he could blow his stack if he let it rip.

[TacticalPeek]

4. Rockefeller's opening statement was good.

Concerned that leak involves WH aide or high official.

Harkin's statement ok.

Graham beginning his statement now. A smart guy who can talk it.

Larry Johnson ex-CIA is on panel, and Jim M?, also ex-CIA. They appeared on CNN this am, talking bout this ain't going away, and its bad serious.
I expect today and tonight the media rounds will continue.

[Oilwellian]

8. CSpan Link

here

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. This is sooooo good!

Let's see how much goes out over our repuke mainstream media. Any bets?

[jbfam4]

13. WOW

They all voted for Bush and gave him Money.....

[Oilwellian]

15. Larry Johnson said...

something to the effect that he and other CIA officials who submitted their comments to this committee are republicans, and they all donated funds to Bush. "That may cause you to question our judgement."
Hahahaha!

[eleny]

And he disparages Coulter's "Treason" book

while commenting on the difference between Dems who saw combat but have been maligned as weak - and R's who didn't see combat but are held up as warriors. Wow and double wow!

[seemslikeadream]

16. There are bullies in this administration.

Talking about Ann Coulter book calling Dems traitiors, this has got to stop, Johnson says.

[Spazito]

17. Wow, these former CIA agents are white hot with anger!

There is NO question, they will NOT let this die. If I were Bush and his cabal, I would be VERY worried!

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. Jim Marcinkowski 1986-1989 CIA

Why is there even a question whether leaking Plames name is wrong? This is the first time in history that this has EVER happened. Incalculable damage from the leak.

It was deliberate. The release was deliberate and done for a purpose.

Media...Senior official knew the working of the media. Placed lives at risk.

Get at the heart of what was BEFORE a common standard..this was Bad!

[Tesha]

19. Amazing

3 guys from the inteligence community saying "shame on bush" over and over again - one guy called him a bully and a coward.

"We have been betrayed" "poisionus partisan politics" "incalculable damage to trust and credibility"

will anyone care? or do anything? ohh these guys are maaaaad! one guy was close to tears

[newyawker99]

45. Hi Tesha!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[seemslikeadream]

20. Marcinkowski says

There has been alot of damage done. The media says act itself was not deliberate, how can that be, it was deliberate. How did he become a senior White House when he could let it out, how did he not know how serious it was. basic ground rules were not keep it was not an accident, put lives at risk. This must be dealt with non partisan. What harm is following from this leak.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. Daschle

What happens to the intelligence community? Did they change their assessment of the Iraq situation? Were they pressured to give info to support war?

Cannistrano 27 yr. CIA....Analyst Chief...

Raised doubts in young peoples minds about joining CIA.

Can we protect our agents?
She was outed by a vindictive act.

CIA was not providing info to support the war...that's why she was outed.

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. Larry Johnson

is awesome!

No link between Saddam and Bin Laden

Effort to intimidate CIA because they wouldn't say there was.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Rockefeller

Analysts.....Are they being pressured?
Cannistraro....

VP....first time in history to have a Vice President go to CIA and sit down with desk level employees.

CIA won't tell VP to take a hike.

They ARE pressured.

Analyst said what they thought was true and this is what behind the outing of a CIA agent.

Wow! These guys are PISSED!

[NewJeffCT]

24. keep the updates coming

For those of at work who work in a small office and don't want the conspicuous noise radiating out of their desks...

[diplomats]

25. I suspect they're doing this now

because they're convinced the DOJ is going to do a whitewash/CYA for Bush. They probably wanted to wait a few weeks to see how the investigation would go before taking this avenue.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. If you interrupt the information flow

you do so at your own detriment.

Harkin...We need to do something different here. Is there some way for information to be gotten without it being politicized.

Cannistraro...

VP Cheney and Lewis Libbie....visited CIA...VP insisted CIA wasn't looking for a link to Al Queda HARD ENOUGH.

Their mantra was.."you're not going to find anything if you don't know what you're looking for."

We DID know what we were looking for.

[leftchick]

27. He mentioned OSP!!!

Cannistraro just refered to the OSP from the Pentagon, but not by name.

[Spazito]

31. I can't figure out why they won't name the OSP instead of dancing just..

outside of it.

[Unknown Known]

35. Because OSP is where the High Treason took place

and got us into this war. Everyone is treading softly around this because this is Pandora's Box.

The OSP was having regular meetings with Sharon's counterpart group. This is where the high treason comes in - sharing and manipulating US intelligence with a foreign government.

[Spazito]

37. But if nobody is going to speak frankly about this, how in the heck...

will this ever be discussed? Someone HAS to take the lead and speak outright about the OSP by name and it's involvement or what's the point, imo.

[NewJeffCT]

47. ok, i'm ignorant here...

what is the OSP?

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious, but it's Friday afternoon and I'm tired from a long week at work.

[Unknown Known]

50. OSP - Office of Special Plans

Julian Borger writes about it here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html

[Armstead]

28. Larry Johnson blasting war on terror

Says threat of terrorism is exagerated.

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. Cannistraro

Boykin making remarks about Islam...you're giving ammo for all Islamic terrorists to attack.

Larry Johnson....

Terrorism...hype...the rhetoric..if true, why are we not having attacks every day? every month?

"The war on terroism is the greatest threat since the civil war." Gen. Meyers

16,000 deaths from terrorist. This is not the Soviet Union with Nuclear Weapons.

He is saying the administration has exaggerated the terrorism threat.

[eleny]

30. Now going after Boykin-like rhetoric as causing more problems

And Johnson's questioning how the adminstration is characterizing terrorism as the greatest threat to America since the Civil War. He disagrees and asks why Congress isn't asking why the admin is saying this when we haven't had terror attacks on some regular basis. (My paraphrasing)

This transcript will be priceless to study.

[LittleApple81]

34. BUT WHAT PART OF THE "LIBRUL" PRESS WILL EVEN REFER TO IT!

This is not going to get any coverage. Impact limited to us CSpan junkies.
Watching that Focus group yesterday has brought back to the forefront (to me at least) that Americans are among the most uninformed (and happy about it, I may add) people on earth.

[eleny]

38. Someone posted here that Corn is there...

and he makes the rounds of the talk shows as well as writes.So, there's some hope.

Btw, it's just so great to have watched this with other C-Span viewers.

I wish we could hear the aftermath conversations as we can sometimes. The gesturing and facial expressions tell so much!

[berry]

51. Yeah--that focus group was a real downer. It depressed me too.

I haven't done it yet, but I'm going to write to the Annenberg School at U Pa and ask what the point was. Most of the people had never even heard of most of the Dem candidates, yet they were asked to talk about how they felt about them. The least they could have done was screen a debate for them...

[in_cog_ni_to]

32. Levin

Are your views so radical you are not to be believed? Levin...asked

They said No...


Intelligence committee chairman has refused to review how the intelligence was used.

Uranium case...analysts didn't cave. 16 words were deceptive. British connection was used. We didn't believe it ourselves. Policy makers found a way to make that impression.

Whew!

You know people who were pressured...contacted by chairman of committee? Were they pressured?

Cannistraro
Yes I know people..have to ask them to release their names.

Johnson...same thing...

Rockefeller..

It is improper for AG to conduct investigation...and people who work for him
Is that the proper way to find out who outed Plame?

Marcinkowski...needs to be put in context. there will always be question...was a fair job done?

Johnson.....A specila prosecutor should be used what's good for the goose is good for the gander. He agreed with having a SP in Clinton
administration.

Cannistraro.. Ashcroft
Should recuse himself from investigation.

It's over....The End.

[eleny]

33. Will transcripts be available?

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. You can probably watch it here or find a transcript

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=

[eleny]

40. Thanks, I'll check back from time to time to see if it's available

[0007]

36. Watched it all!

It was very good.

After it was over I saw David Corn. So I'm sure he'll writing on it in a few days.

[TacticalPeek]

41. Republican Senators are doing a magnificent job cutting their own throats.

Stand back, don't bump the razor. Let them have what they deserve.

These former agents are drawing a bright line in the sand. Time for pols and reporters to pick which side they are on.

[realFedUp]

46. and the sides are much more obvious...n/t

[Lindsay]

42. I thought that was David Corn

I was seeing. Glad to have it confirmed.

I do hope there were a bunch of journalists there...at one point somebody characterized it as a press conference.

Except for not naming OSP, it was pretty no-holds-barred. Very much worth seeing or listening to.

[TacticalPeek]

43. OSP and their orcs, as well as OGC (WH Office of Global Communications),

may have to wait until at least 2 or 3 R Senators catch on to where this falling piano is going to land. Will not be long now, I imagine. When the full inquiries come it will be DEVASTATING.

Yummy.

[realFedUp]

44. definitely worth viewing!

be pleasant to get this kind of candor from
more intelligent people in this country...

[realFedUp]

48. bumping for afternoon