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Jonte_1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:08 AM
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Least despicable right-wing pundit?
I say Mike Gallagher. "Hannity & Colmes" is actually half way watchable when Mike is filling in for Sean.
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amlouden Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:09 AM
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1. none
i think it's more like an oxymoron
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:13 AM
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2. Ramesh Ponorru
of the National Review. At least he doesn't scream his mouth off like a chickenhawk.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:14 AM
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3. Alan Colmes......
Oh wait,he claims to be Liberal...Hmmm
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:15 AM
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4. Pat Buchanan
He's right on the issues about half the time lately which is way more than others of his ilk. And when he's wrong, he's still rather likable, not a bully, able to laugh at himself.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:18 AM
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6. You beat me to it
I was going to mention Pat as well. At least he isn't sucking up all the crap the GOP spews out. He has a philosophy and a point of view and he sticks by it, right or wrong (well, usually wrong but that's another question ;^)).

Compare him with whores like Hannity or Coulter or Rush and he always comes up clean.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:41 AM
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19. You are right
He is a bit xenophobic, but then again I also find myself in agreement with him fairly often as well.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:13 PM
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35. He's civil
I rarely agree with him, but at least he is not a screamer, and I don't think he makes stuff up like some do. He's just wrong. I heard on one of those gossip shows that on a social level he is well-liked and charming and has Democratic friends.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:29 PM
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37. That wouldn't surprise me at all
I've often thought, watching John McLaughlin and Pat Buchanan on "The McLaughlin Group," that both would be loads of fun to go to the bar with and hammer a few back while debating the Great Issues of the Day (except either guy would probably pinch my head off in a debate). Plus, it's easy to see that Pat (a) can't stand Bush and (b) is against this ongoing murder in Iraq (so, interestingly enough, is McLaughlin).
Yeah, Pat can be a troglodyte at times -- but the fact that he CAN laugh at himself is a good sign that he's probably not a tyrant.
John
Now, Mort Zuckerman irritates me no end. But I DO kind of like Pat (as a person).
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:16 AM
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5. I say Colmes
.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:26 PM
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46. That's Certainly My Choice.
n/t
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alonso_quijano Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:19 AM
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7. You'll never believe me, but
Ollie North.

Really! He's just as much a neo-con criminal as the rest of them, but, when I've watched him on cable shows, he's always treated people who disagree with him (callers or guests) with respect. Compared to the vast majority of the right-wing media, this really stands out.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:45 AM
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22. I get that from Liddy too
and Liddy can be entertaining because of his eccentricities. I actually enjoy Liddy sometimes, like when he discusses firearms because i am a fellow collector.
I do not usually agree with him, but he is somewhat tolerable because he is so strange, and he can be funny too. Not nearly as self righteous as Hannity or Savage.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:19 AM
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8. Might as well ask who was the least despicable member of...
...the Nazi propaganda machine? My answer is the same for both: They are making a choice and they all have blood on their hands.

If I had to answer, I'd have to agree with carolinayellowdog's choice of Pat Buchanan.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:21 AM
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9. I cannot really think of one
who is at all tolerable.

Colmes is not. He is actually more annoying than some wingers.

Buchannan is about the closest to an old-style conservative who can discuss and argue based on facts. Where is William F. Buckley when THEY need him?
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:23 AM
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11. Bill Buckley was marginalized by the RW when he started to support
legalizing grass...
:eyes:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:18 PM
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44. Buckley no longer serves their purposes (see post 42 below)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:23 AM
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10. None!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:23 AM
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12. hmmmmm..... George Will?
Although he is full of crap, at least he is well educated.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:24 AM
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13. Are You Kidding Me?
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 11:24 AM by jayfish
Have you ever listened to Gallagher's radio show? I think that next to Savage Weiner, he is the most sublimely ignorant, repugnant RW spewer of hate out there. I'll probably get flamed for this but I'd take Novacula or Pat Buchanan any day. Hell, I’d even rather have Tucker Carlson. I have a sneaking suspicion that one day Tucker will turncoat on the RW.

Jay
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:25 AM
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14. Christopher Caldwell ....
he isn't too bad and he calls Repukes on their moral hypocrisy (in Blinded By the Right, Caldwell was one of the few RWers David Bock didn't pan)
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:30 AM
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15. Tucker Carlson
Although he has a tendency to act very pro-Bush at almost all times, while hosting Crossfire. But when he's outside of the right/left debate mode, he's able to think a lot more logically and doesnt suscribe to the Republicans-always-right ideology that he seems to convey on Crossfire.

..interestingly enough, Republicans tend to see Carlson the same way we see Alan Colmes. But thats because they cant stand to see someone with a cooler head (Tucker) representing them.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:43 AM
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20. I second Tucker Carlson
Supposedly, Robert Novak had his qualms about Tucker Carlson when Carlson was hired for "Crossfire". On the grounds that Carlson wasn't "conservative enough". To select the least despicable Right Wing pundit might seem like an impossible task, I'd have to choose Tucker Carlson. He isn't as "foaming at the mouth" like a lot of right wingers are. He's not quite as homophobic as the rest of them (which caused me NOT to choose Pat Buchanan, for instance).
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:41 PM
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29. I third Tucker
Can see him squirm while the news is reported. Is fairly genial and rarely really nasty. I thik he is more of a moderate repug environmentally and economicaly, though still too conservative on social issues.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:31 PM
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31. I despise Carlson almost more than any other
because he's the wolf in sheep's clothing. With his baby face, and his bullshit about not being partisan ...

He's as big a whore as there is. The fact that he's more subtle about it makes him more dangerous IMHO
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:37 AM
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16. gallagher? ppppppftptou
the other radio guy is principled at least. glen beck?? is that his name?


pat buchannan seems principled too.

run pat run
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:39 AM
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17. For some reason
I can actually enjoy G. gordon liddy--maybe because he talks in weird syntax like my father, and because he always talks about guns which are a hobby of mine.
My least favorites are hannity and Savage.
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Sesquipedalian Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:41 AM
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18. P.J. O'Rourke
He isn't as good as he used to be, but even if he was pretty much wrong about everything in "Parliament of Whores" he was still funny being wrong about things.
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:44 AM
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21. How about David Gergin?
He's smarter than most of them (ok, not saying much), he's got the experience, and he doesn't froth at the mouth.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:07 PM
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27. Gergin is ok too
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:33 PM
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32. is Gergin gay?
anyone know about this?

Not that I CARE, not that there's anything wrong with that, he just seems that way to me.

Like Pete Williams, you know, who I wouldn't have suspected unless someone told me.

I really don't like Gergin's pompous attitude. His snide comment about Wesley Clark, especially the look on his face, was pretty gross. (he said something like Eisenhower had just won WWII, Clark has just won Kovoso. Like it's Clark's fault the war wasn't bigger)
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:42 PM
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40. Gergin for me too.
And my God, the political discourse has shifted so far right in the US, Gergin could pass for a liberal.
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kyrasdad Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:46 AM
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23. It would definatly be...
Robert Novak. He makes no apologies for being a tightfisted mean old man. He lets you know str8 up what and who he is. I like that about him. I may disagree with him alot, but I have to respect him for backing his opinions up with fact or the caveat of "I believe". And, this is just my opinion, I think he knows he was used by the Bush Administration on this leak issue, and isn't happy about it. It really hurt his credibility. What I find odd, is how he and Buchannan, some the two most right wingers out there are anti-war. It scares me when I agree with them...
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:48 AM
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24. Does anyone live in MD?
There is another Conservative radio guy, a local, on WCBM--his name is Les Consolving, but he is generally tolerant, will allow anyone to comment, doesn't censor, and will even bring people of opposing views on to debate while he mediates. He is always very friendly, and although he is pretty homophobic, always treats all callers with respect and friendliness.
The big difference is he lets anyone comment and say what they want--unlike many of the others and doesn't get personally ugly.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:51 AM
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25. Buchanan....i can handle paleocons like him
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:30 PM
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30. I'm with you. Buchanan isn't actually a shill. He has his own ideas
and sometimes I actually agree with him.

The others do exactly as their right wing bosses tell them.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:24 PM
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45. Buchanan. No doubt.
He's principled, and I admire a man with principle. Plus, he's a patriot, even if I do disagree with him on social policy. He's a good American, though, and has fought the Neo-cons at every opportunity.

I wish he would run. Principled conservatives would have a real candidate, and we could get rid of Bush. We should extend an olive branch to the True Conservatives, who are our allies against True Evil.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:53 AM
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26. Hell must be frozen over -- Pat Buchanan
I might disagree with most of what Pat believes, but he isan old-school conservative (I think) and not a Bushevik.

Busheviks are NOT conservatives. They are Totalitarian Monsters.
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:07 PM
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28. jim bohannan.....very fair to all callers,guests.....
he is generally very fair to all guests who call in. he has no screeners per say either...they only ask you which topic you're commenting on. he is not fond of tin foil hat wearers though, and he has cut people off in mid sentence if they start sounding crazy or get nasty on the air with him or his guests, but he plays no favorites there either. a few weeks back ann the man was his guest and he was ripping her a new one...for the most part he calls them down the middle.
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jafap Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:37 PM
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33. Paul Krugman
I am pretty sure he is to the right of me, but I like him anyway.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:10 PM
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34. Krugman is So Liberal
maybe he's to the right of you, but the man is amazing. He has a new book: The Great Unraveling: Losing Our Way in the New Century

He's so critical of Jr.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:15 PM
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36. the dead ones.
no...barbara olsen still pisses me off.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:36 PM
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38. Pat Buchanan.
Occasionally he hits a point I agree on; i.e., when Rove /Cheney decided to go to Iraq, he disagreed with them.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:39 PM
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39. Buchanan
n/t
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:44 PM
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41. Buchanan or Liddy?
Not sure. Definitely despise Colmes, who is the "house liberal" on Fox, and there to be road kill. Don't really like Buchanan or Liddy, but at least they are entertaining, and somewhat honest - tough qualities to find on the Right today. They might even depart from the RNC talking points from time to time! Novak is a schmuck.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:44 PM
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42. William F Buckley...
because he speaks and writes so well (even though he is wrong 995 of the time)
During most of my life, Buckley was the face of right-wing punditry. But he has now been mothballed. I guess that he comes off a little too effete and country club-like for a party trying to appeal to "red-blooded regular guys" I find this interesting because Buckley was their original "young man on campus" ("God and Man at Yale") and he made Catholicism palatable to the American right-wing.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:48 PM
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43. Franken likes Buchanan
I see why, Pat is more polite than most wingers. But I'd opt for Walter Williams. Or PJ O'Rourke because he's made me laugh so hard.
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