I think everyone knows about the feud between Dean and Kucinich,

[Loyal]

but what is the problem, really? I'm not a supporter of either of these candidates, and it just seems what Kucinich is doing is childish. Dean obviously was not targeting Kucinich in his ad, he was just referring to the major candidates who have a chance at winning the nomination. No offense to Kucinich, but he's at like 1% in the major polls. Kucinich has under 1 million dollars in the bank, so I think that this is just a way for Kucinich to get TV time and attention, because he can't afford to buy it himself. So he starts fights. I don't really think this is a productive strategy.

[chimpymustgo]

1. But it worked so well for Dean.

He attacked Kerry like a rabid dog starting last January. Voila - got mucho press.

At least DK is telling the TRUTH about Dean's distortion and arrogance.

[Loyal]

3. Listen

I don't support Dean, and I think that both DK and Dean are acting like idiots.

DK is acting like an idiot because he has no chance at the nomination, and Dean is acting stupid because he is a flip-flopper on Medicare and Social Security, just like Kucinich flip-flopped on abortion, and medical marijuana. ;-)

[NewYorkerfromMass]

2. no less childish than Dean's utterings

such as "I'm the only one to talk about race in front of whites", and pretending to be anti-war when really he was for it.

[Loyal]

4. Hey,

I support Kerry like you. Heh.

I'm just pointing out everyone's stupid actions.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

7. it's more opportunism by Dean- and at Kucinich's expense

not a vote's been cast so to belittle Dennis is a little premature.... and Dean can't miss yet another opportunity to "brand" himself even though he's stating something which is clearly not true.

[Loyal]

9. I belittle him

He has no money and almost no support.

[Kahuna]

22. The sad part is Dean still doesn't know how idiotic..

that statement about being the only one to talk about race..... is. He's still insisting that he IS! :eyes:

[ClintonTyree]

5. You are correct..................

just a ploy to get airtime and recognition. Most of the other candidates know that time and money are running out for their campaigns. This is fast becomming a one horse race.

[blm]

6. Yes, it is offense to Kucinich.

The media and Dean both pushed the idea that he was the ONLY liberal antiwar candidate when he was neither liberal, if you search his 11 yr record as a compromising centrist, OR antiwar if you acknowledge his support of the IWR with the Biden-Lugar amendment.

Kucinich was speaking in front of millions at the antiwar protests, while Dean was collecting the liberal antiwar $$$$ based on the MYTH created by the media. When all this started there was not much difference in their poll numbers.

[Loyal]

8. BLM, I support Kerry like you

But I can't stand Kucinich as much as I can't stand Dean. I don't like Kucinich because he is a flip-flopper just like Dean. And Catholicism is not an excuse for Kucinich's anti-choice record, like some have said on here.

[blm]

16. Sorry, but, I don't agree. In fact....

I give money equally to Kerry and Kucinich because I trust them both and their liberal records in government implicitly. I absolutely know with all my heart that DKs position change on abortion is 100% sincere.

Dennis is the biggest factor in why I became a liberal thinker. That was in 1972. I KNOW Dennis. In many ways he is a big part of me.

[mzmolly]

10. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

:eyes:

[janekat]

11. Why are ALL the feuds centered around Dean? He has a problem

with combativeness. I used to like him - but he has really turned me off big time.

[poskonig]

13. Everyone wants a piece of the frontrunner.

This isn't the first time Kucinich has singled people out to demagogue. Perhaps that is why Dean is doing well, and all of the other campaigns are falling behind, i.e. Dean does a better job staying on message.

[Kahuna]

24. Nope. Dean is doing well because he is a LIAR! Just like

bush. He learned his lesson well from bush. Now I don't think that Dean is evil like bush or would ever sink to bush's level in dishing out sleaze. But he is dishonest and arrogant like bush. Saying that he is like bush but not quite as bad isn't really saying too much. I don't trust him.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

14. chalk it up to low self esteem

I see no other reason to hammer away at people like this- ESPECIALLY when polls show you are doing well.
It is a sign of real problems.

[DemBones DemBones]

12. Link, please. I haven't heard about this "feud" but

I don't care for your off-hand dismissal of Dennis Kucinich and his candidacy.

It seems that you don't think Kucinich should criticize Dean because Kucinich isn't polling well. But there was a time when Dean was criticizing other candidates although he wasn't polling well. And there will likely be many more changes in candidates' polling status before we get to the convention. Each candidate must make his/ her case, and one way to do that is to point out differences between himself and the others in the race.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

15. calm down

and i ain't gonna tell you again!

[Loyal]

18. So

:P I don't care. Good thing you're not a mod.

[Abe Linkman]

17. "I think everyone has just learned a PR lesson, too"

How to get attention by posing a question that makes it sound like it's on a newsworthy topic.

[Loyal]

19. Thanks for your

non-contribution.

[Demobrat]

20. There's a feud?

Maybe Kucinich is feuding, but I don't think Dean really knows he exists.

[Larkspur]

21. Kucinich's ploy is an act of desperation

Dean said his "major" opponents. Kucinich has been sitting in the polling cellar for months now and there is no way that he can be considered a "major" opponent to Dean. The only poll Kucinich did well in was the June MoveOn.org Primary, but that Primary has no delegates.

However, Dean was right to attack Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, and Lieberman for voting for a resolution that gave Bush a blank check. Oh yeah, it forced Bush to go to the UN, but Bush treated them with no respect. The IWR did not require Bush to honestly work to get UN support, nor did it require Bush to return to Congress BEFORE launching war. It told Bush to return to Congress 48 hours at the max AFTER launching war with his explanation to congress on why he launched war. The 2002 IWR was written to support Bush's war plans with one little inconvenience about making him go to the UN to present his fraudulent case. The 2002 IWR is Gulf of Tonkin Resolution II and none of the Dem Prez contenders who voted for it should be our Prez nominee.

What Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, and Lieberman have ignored to their political peril is We the People, and especially those of us who participated in the myriad anti-war campaigns last year. Dean acknowledged our anger and frustration at our Dem leaders as well as Bush and we want CHANGE, not just in the White House, but in our Party and Country.

A sclerosis of Totalism has plagued this nation for too long. Dr. Dean is the catalyst to restore our democracy. The others, should they become President, will lip sync the Dem platform but no change will happen because they will be more worried about re-election than actually challenging Delay, Lott, Hastert and the the other Repukes, who will intimidate them. I don't see them intimidating Howard Dean. I see President Dean developing plans to undermine Delay, Lott, Hastert and the Repukes to get legislation he wants passed passed.

And Deanocrats, Dean's election to the White House will be just the beginning of the campaign to retake our country. The battle must head to Congress, where we need to remove ideologues and cowards who are selling our democracy down the drain.

[Eloriel]

23. National polls are still tracking primarily name recognition

Which is not meant to disagree with your point otherwise. I just worry that people put too much stock in the national polls.

Eloriel