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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:04 PM
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WI Assembly passes anti-gay marriage bill
Madison - In a bitter debate over the sanctity of marriage, the Assembly approved a bill Thursday that would define a wedded union as being only between a man and a woman.

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The bill, which passed the Assembly 68-29, now heads to the Senate. If it's approved in that house, Gov. Jim Doyle is expected to veto it.

"The governor has made it very clear that Wisconsin law already defines marriages as between a man and a woman," said Doyle aide Dan Leistikow. "This bill is just gratuitous piling on for political reasons."


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Rep. Tom Hebl (D-Sun Prairie) told Seratti, however, that the intent of the bill is "to rally those homophobic zealots you call your supporters."

Hebl asked whether the next Assembly bill dealing with marriage would specify what kind of genitalia each person should have. When he was admonished by Speaker Pro-Tem Stephen Freese (R-Dodgeville) for saying the names of genitalia on the Assembly floor, Hebl repeated them and then said, "What's next? Are we going to deal with chromosomes?"


This bill was authored by Rep. Mark Gudrun (R-New Berlin). New Berlin is a very conservative suburb of Milwaukee.

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:07 PM
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1. Then I hope Doyle Vetoes this sham of a bill
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:25 AM
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2. Gundrum legislates based on religion all the time
He used to be our rep (Waukesha). He'd introduce things all of the time that were religiously motivated. One I remember clearly was lowering the fee for a marriage license, because some communities had more expensive licensing than others. Of course, most of Gundrum's bills were no-brainers -- non-controversial things that of course the public would support, at least at face value (I mean, who would object to lowering the marriage license fee?)

Yay Hebl!

I hope Doyle vetoes this.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:30 AM
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3. At least Doyle has his head on straight. It is making me extremely nervous
that so many states are trying to pass this same (worded almost exact) through their legislature. There is no need for it...unless one is building up to something bigger.
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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:06 AM
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4. How many states???
Enough to pass a constitutional amendment?

You're right - it is concerning.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:18 AM
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7. Map Of States That Have ANTI GAY LAWS On The Books
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:30 AM
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8. Damn, it's the Bucket woman!
Love that show! And thanks for the map.:-)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 02:43 PM
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11. There are quite a few of those purple states-Michigan included-
that currently have a bill with this same line-In a bitter debate over the sanctity of marriage, the Assembly approved a bill Thursday that would define a wedded union as being only between a man and a woman.- included. It's beating a dead horse (unfortunately) and the only viable,and sick, reason is to try and make a run for an ammendment. That is a horrible thing to contemplate. Why can't we get back to humanism? Why "redefine" marriage? Love is love.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:33 AM
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5. can to Wis governor be overridden on vetos?
is the Wis senate controlled by Repukes?
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:33 AM
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9. It could happen
Sorry, I forgot to include a link to the article. Here 'tis

http://www.jsonline.com/news/State/oct03/179682.asp

From the article:

The Assembly would appear by Thursday night's action to have the sufficient two-thirds majority to override a Doyle veto, although some legislators could change their minds. Some of the 11 Democrats who voted in favor of the bill would not likely override a Democratic governor's veto. Two Republicans voted against it.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:15 AM
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6. This Is Why I FUCKING HATE... LOATHE... DESPISE Christian Fundamentalists
... and their witch-hunting demon-chasing boogey-man-imagining religious conservatives.

I know that some of you will chime in and point out that my "hatred" of them is no better than their hatred of me. They will point out that I'm only making my side appear to be "ugly" and worthy of their ill will. --- My only response to that will be: BULLSHIT! The ill-will irrational hatred these myopic fundamentalists feel toward me and mine is irreversible. They will never change their mind. My being "nice" and "polite" for the sake of being nice and polite serves no purpose other than pure foolishness.

These people are creating LAWS specifically for the SOLE PURPOSE of discriminating against queer Americans. They are "protecting" nothing. What are they protecting it from?

What a madhouse! A MADHOUSE!!

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 02:34 PM
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10. Check out the latest
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 03:12 PM
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12. More Evidence Of The "Self-Loathing" We Hear So Much About...
... more proof of the "I'll-attack-other-queers-to-hide-my-own-queerness" phenomenon.

HYPOCRITES! All of 'em!

Thanks for the link and the heads-up on that story.

--Allen
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