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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:37 AM
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Clark Leads Bush by 10% on Army Times poll...
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 10:37 AM by wyldwolf
yeah, I know it's just an online poll, but it's Army Times - I figure servicemen and women and their families are doing the voting...

Bottom of page...

http://www.armytimes.com/
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:41 AM
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1. More significantly...
... only 30% of those people in the military would vote for their current Commander in Chief.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:57 AM
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5. Bush is Army toast

Ambassador Carol Moseley Braun 0.24 % (13)
Gen. Wesley Clark (Ret.) 40.18 % (2,154)
Gov. Howard Dean 6.96 % (373)
Sen. John Edwards 0.52 % (28)
Rep. Dick Gephardt 2.15 % (115)
Sen. John Kerry 17.50 % (938)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich 0.28 % (15)
Sen. Joe Lieberman 0.73 % (39)
Rev. Al Sharpton 1.42 % (76)
President George W. Bush 30.03 % (1,610)
Total votes: 5361
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:14 AM
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8. very true
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:04 AM
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30. SOS.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:42 AM
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2. wow....
This is excellent.
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:45 AM
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3. Not only is Bush losing to Clark BUT he is getting only 30%
of the votes.

:evilgrin:


LOL

And Holy Joe is losing to Rev. Al Sharpton 2 - 1

Snapshot at 10:45AM Sunday

Ambassador Carol Moseley Braun 0.24 % (13)
Gen. Wesley Clark (Ret.) 40.28 % (2,153)
Gov. Howard Dean 6.94 % (371)
Sen. John Edwards 0.52 % (28)
Rep. Dick Gephardt 2.15 % (115)
Sen. John Kerry 17.32 % (926)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich 0.28 % (15)
Sen. Joe Lieberman 0.73 % (39)
Rev. Al Sharpton 1.42 % (76)
President George W. Bush 30.10 % (1,609)
Total votes: 5345
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:45 AM
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4. heh...I hope jiacinto sees this. I've been telling him
Bush is losing the military vote for two years now. Eh, Carlos?
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spaniard Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:19 AM
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10. I'm a viet nam vet for Clark...
I have noticed Clark getting favorable reactions in military circles.
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bushclipper Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:28 AM
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13. We need to talk! I'd love to exchange stories about this n/t
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spaniard Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:58 AM
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15. I just PM'd you...
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:49 PM
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18. Welcome to DU Spaniard
...And to Bushclipper too. A surprising (maybe not so surprising?) number of vets around here.

:toast:
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:01 PM
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20. Welcome to DU!
My dad is a Vietnam veteran as well.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:15 AM
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32. Welcome
:toast: And thanks for your service. From the bottom of our hearts.:loveya:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:07 AM
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6. So much for
"The military hates Clark" bull that the Bushies have been tossing out.

MzPip
:dem:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:08 AM
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7. I've heard democrats say that, too.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:04 PM
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16. Yes, though it seems as though military/former military DUers
are pretty positive on Clark, in general (no pun intended!)

Though I admit that only covers postings that I've read, and I certainly don't mean "all" military DUers.

Might be an interesting poll topic on DU.
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bushclipper Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:16 AM
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9. I know a lot of Korean war vets who think the world of Clark...
..they all voted Bush in 2000 it seems, but they talk up Clark almost daily.
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spaniard Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:20 AM
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11. I get the same from my 'nam vet friends...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:23 AM
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12. Clark's lead over Bush is growing...
Getting DU'ed, huh?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:53 AM
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14. bump for good news!
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:10 PM
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17. Notice how John Kerry is 3rd,
behind Clark and Bush. It shows that having military experience DOES help.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:59 PM
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19. This is great news!

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:24 PM
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21. Very Pleased
I am so very pleased to see that. The young women and men serving our country are no fools and it shows.

Thom
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:43 PM
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22. The BAD news (from the other locked thread)
leftchick  (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-26-03 08:42 AM

the pentagons plan for the Military to vote via E-Voting in the 2004 (s)eletion!
http://www.msnbc.com/news/921218.asp

Get this, they're calling it:

Secure Electronic Registration and Voting Experiment

Yeah, just like the "clean skies" and "healthy forests" initiatives.

You know if they're calling it that, it's really the exact opposite.

This frigging sucks.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:29 PM
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23. I just spent a little time in their forums...
lots of "left of centers" there.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:36 PM
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24. Looks like Kerry is cutting into Bush right now...
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 05:15 PM
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25. Why doesn't Clark run as a Republican? What a strategy!
That would be a hoot.
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:06 PM
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26. If he's doing that well among Army voters,maybe he can make some progress
with the white male vote.If he can up the the Dem percentage of that constituency then Smirk is going back to Crawford in 2005.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:23 AM
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29. Did you see his numbers breakdown?
According to Ruy Teixeira, co-author of "The Emerging Democratic Majority," Clark's followers are right to suppose that their man's appeal is demographically broader than Dean's. In a post on the Emerging Democratic Majority blog, he analyzes an October Gallup poll to discern "The Demographics of Clarkism":

"While Clark receives more support than Dean among both men and women, his margin over Dean among women is just 3 points (16 percent to 13 percent), but an impressive 12 points among men (29 percent to 17 percent)," Teixeira points out. "He also beats Dean in every region of the country, but especially in the South (25 percent to 8 percent). Also intriguing is how well he does among low income voters (less than $20,000), clobbering Dean by 26 percent to 5 percent. In fact, Clark bests Dean in every income group up to $75,000. Above $75,000, Dean edges Clark, 26 percent to 25 percent."

Furthermore, unlike Dean, Clark seems to have significant support from black voters. He's been treated gently by Al Sharpton and endorsed by Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y. "When Charlie Rangel speaks up for somebody like General Clark, it speaks volumes in the black community," says Brazile.
salon.com
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:33 AM
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34. wyldwolf: hear, hear!!!!
I read that too. I hope the poll and Teixeira are right. GO WES!!!
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:25 PM
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27. This is one of the reasons I'm supporting Clark
In an ideal world I would support either Kucinich or Dean but more than anything we need someone who can peel voters away from Bush. Because Clark is virtually immune from "soft on security" attacks he is the one IMO.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:21 AM
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33. In an ideal world
none of us would be worried about this Crap because President Gore would be well on his way to a productive second term.

Clark is our very best option and will make a fine President though. Too bad so many have had to die. I'm not sure what hell is but I know I want Bush to find out.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:43 PM
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28. Ok Clark has got to be on the ticket top or bottom but he better be on

if we want to kick * ass . If these numbers are close to true for all parts of the Military then the idiot son is done over finished
Rove will be sweating hard over these # that's what you get for hanging the the Military out to dry.

They will use massive vote fraud thru the electronic voting machines
in 04 it's their only option left. There's no way they can win a fair election without the Military vote.


Clark MUST be on the ticket.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:13 AM
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31. Cool
All those service have extended families that care about them too.

GO CLARK!
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