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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:17 PM
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Poll question: who had the best closing statement?
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:25 PM
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1. DU polls...
...have become so obviously and completely meaningless...
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:49 PM
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7. Does your comment have anything to do with
Clark being ahead of your candidate? I didn't vote for my candidate. I tried to answer the question honestly. You know, Dean will not win everything, even on DU with his bastion of supporters.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:08 PM
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16. No, I was actually...
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 11:09 PM by w13rd0
...basing it on the responses to a couple of tonights earlier polls. I don't think the voting was as skewed when I first responded to this thread.

Oh, and I haven't voted yet because I haven't watched it yet, but I have read some of the threads.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:27 PM
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2. This is true...
...I thought it was Dean, followed by Clark. Clark's non-blinking still freaks me out. On the negative end, Kerry's was kinda bizarre, and DK sucked royally.

Later.

RJS
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ginantonic40 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:49 PM
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8. Every time Clark got face time
I kept getting the feeling there was something weird about him. No blinking... thats it.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:52 PM
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12. If you want blinkers, just find a pack of
liars. That's what blinking (frequency of) indicates. Seriously.

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:29 PM
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21. Yeah, but
I'm a Clark B'ar but it bothers me too. He has to get some help with that one. There is such a thing as appearing too focused.

The kid in A.I. (Harry Osmond?) did that deliberately. He never blinked into the camera throughout the entire movie. OF course, after a while most of the audience was asleep so only a few of us SF fanatics really noticed.

As to the debate, Wes kicked ass. And I liked the way nobody but nobody paid any attention to those talking-head moderators. THey could shine all their lights, and ring their bells all night long. The folks on stage weren't about to comply. And how could they, with the actually idiotic questions the panel was asking.

When will you balance the budget? It was like Barbara Walters asking what kind of tree you'd be, if you were a tree. And when she asked for more specifics, he just ignored her again. Good stuff.

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:29 PM
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22. Oh, and Lieberman
SUCKS!
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:28 PM
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3. Talk about partisan
I voted for Sharpton and I am Dean supporter.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:30 PM
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4. If we were doing these polls...
...like the "who lost" poll, we'd exclude Sharpton just because he's the master of the stage when it comes to these debates...
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:51 PM
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10. I can't believe you said this
Should we eliminate Dean because he's ahead in the polls? If we eliminated people because of their strengths, where would we be? Really, sometimes you Dean supporters go too far in support of your candidate and turn off those of us who might otherwise support him!
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:12 PM
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17. Haha...no...
...I guess you misunderstood what I said. I was saying that in the earlier poll, Lieberman was eliminated under the assumption that he'd be most people's first choice for "clear loser". I was saying Sharpton would be eliminated as a choice in the voting for "clear winner" or "best zingers" because he rules in those areas. Or in other words, I was saying it wasn't right to eliminate anyone still a candidate, either due to too low or too high a standing. But whatever...man, if I call you later, can you jump my ass some more for nothing inparticular?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:35 PM
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5. I voted for Sharpton.
Both overall and for closing statements.

I'm a Kucinich supporter.
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ginantonic40 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:52 PM
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11. I like Edwards, Dean and Kerry
but there is no denying that in this format Sharpton kicks everyone's ass.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:42 PM
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6. Clark stumbled I thought
seemed to mess up his litany of "business and political leaders" and what they should do. Too complicated and didn't get a rhythm.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:50 PM
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9. Clark.
The closing statement is the most important section. The candidate sums up who he is, what he represents and thinks, and why he should get the nod. Only Clark mentioned national security. All the other closing statements were completely about social/fiscial problems. In 04 the public will not have forgotten about 9-11, and national security will be a very major issue, if not the dominate issue.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:58 PM
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13. It will indeed be a very major issue.
At least in the sense that the voting public will NEVER, not a CHANCE IN HELL, vote in any candidate who can be portrayed as

soft on defense.

Will NOT HAPPEN. This, Democrats had better wake up to if we want to win back the White House.



In my opinion, Clark and Kerry are our only viable candidates with a hope of winning the GE.

That's the one I care about. I want to win this time. This country and the world cannot tolerate another 4 years of Bush.
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:03 PM
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15. Well said
I completely agree.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:22 PM
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20. Yeppers
n/t
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:59 PM
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14. I voted for Clark
for best closing statement. I think Sharpton won the overall debate, hands down, with Clark, Kerry, and Edwards tied for second place, and Kucinich and Braun tied for third. Dean and Gephardt were tied for fourth, IMO, and poor ol' Joe brought up the rear.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:14 PM
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18. It sounded like they turned Kerry's mic down.
Definitely lower than the other candidates.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:15 PM
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19. Dean
no doubt about it.
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