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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:07 AM Original message |
Bloodbath. The War Is Now Unwinnable. |
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Homer12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Great post |
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Tommy_Douglas (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. This war was never winnable... |
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MojoKrunch (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Does anyone here actually think it was supposed to be winnable? |
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wildwww2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
74. The point was to have a war going on so Dim Son can steal his way to |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. This war may have been winnable, but |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. wholehearted agreement |
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Ohio Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well done, Will. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. So, basically, George is an Al Qaida recruiting poster? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. It's just like the op-ad that TomPaine.com ran before the invasion... |
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Homer12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. A guerilla war means that the US military |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 04:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Yes, that is their fantasy. |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. "Al Quaeda - We Got America Out of Saudi Arabia" |
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NicoleM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
5. I remember |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
6. The parallels are strikingly similar... |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 03:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. Link Please |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. The Ramadan Massacre |
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Clark Can WIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
9. I believe the attacks were in part |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
11. Truth, as ever, Will -- do you see ElsewheresDaughter's post? |
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ScotTissue (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. If that was the Tet.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:25 AM Original message |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. "Military victory cannot exist without political victory" |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Many more Americans were against this invasion from the beginning.. |
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maha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. Excellent post n/t |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
16. NLF guerillas did NOt take the US Embassy |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Thanks, will fix |
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huckleberry (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
17. Excellent piece! |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
20. Spot On Will |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
21. Geez and I though things were hunky dory in Iraq. |
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Best_man23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
62. I guess you didn't get the memo from Chimpy |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
22. Unwinnable... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I saw that!!!!! the man is eloquent and spelled it out!! |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Yes |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Thank you. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Thats what I was wondering...... |
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HootieMcBoob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
25. Great as always Mr. Pitt! |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
26. They appear to be "bringing it on". |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
75. bush* rhetoric today certainly sounded like more nasty 'bring it |
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dreissig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. Eviscerated Perspectives |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. From what I recall.... |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. This deserves a kick |
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jafap (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
31. I feel sorry for the grass |
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Kinkistyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-03 05:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
87. There is a reason we went after Hitler and Hirohito |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
34. How many must we lose ? |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
77. when will the draft 'big sucking sound' start...(draft has already |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. Check your timeline |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yeah, I had to read that line twice to figure it out, too |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I fixed it. Thanks, Eloriel. |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. excellent work as usual, Will |
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birdman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
39. The Iraqis will never elect and do not want |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
40. More troops have dies in Iraq in 9 moinths than 8 years of Vietnam |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. That link does not back up that assertion |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 02:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Sorry, wrong link |
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never cry wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 02:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. It's actually the first 9 years of nam... |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. dies? moinths? At least I spelled "troops" correctly. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
43. While I agree that it's unwinnable it's nothing compared to Tet. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. Unwinnable war is shrub's economic stimulus plan. |
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_Wayne_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. kick |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
50. Wierd image |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
51. similarities to Tet are tenuous, at best & is a really long stretch |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 05:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Disagree |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. the "scope and scale" of atoms and planets are also different. |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. I was in Long Binh about 50 miles from Saigon during Tet 1968 |
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LearnedHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. kodi, please consider what Will Pitt said in broader terms |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. Accurate Nam analogy, now insurgents are hip to news cycle placement!! |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Underestimating a guerilla enemy |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
55. Only comparison I see is the humilation part |
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frank frankly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
58. great analysis |
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LearnedHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
59. Love that Yeats poem, Will Pitt |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
60. I make it a policy |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. Why would Bushco want to win a war... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
66. * needs to keep his record string of failures intact |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
67. Thanks for the article, Will. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:13 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You're welcome. Link for this essay: |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
68. Bush seems never to have seen 'Blazing Saddles': |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 09:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. 'Blazing Saddles" was the funniest movie I ever saw...really laughed |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
70. I'm sending this over to my husband in Iraq..is that OK, Will? |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. You saw the link? Here: |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
71. ZombyKick |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Aaaahhhhhhhhh.... |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. it kicks like fine scotch |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
78. I've posted Yeat's "The Second Coming" a number of times since 9/11 |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
79. I've always thought that this war would be *'s political Waterloo. |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
80. I am speechless, great piece Will! |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
82. I wish I knew someone from the NY Times |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
83. Just a little |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-27-03 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
84. Very Nice Will... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-03 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
85. I hate to be kicking just for kicking, so I thought to put this in there |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-03 05:11 AM Response to Original message |
86. I hate to be kicking just for kicking, so I thought to put this in there |
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dudeness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-03 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
88. may I add Lawrence to Yeats |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-03 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
89. Morning kick. |
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