Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The House of Cards is falling down

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:11 PM
Original message
The House of Cards is falling down
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 04:36 PM by Must_B_Free
- Connection between Christian Reconstructionists and Islamic terrorists through Grover Norquist / Islamic charity funding

- Bush stonewalling 911 investigation - won't release documents, yet claims to be "helping".

- And the same people outed a CIA WMD investigator - effectively a general in the war on terror?

How many are prepared to face what many of us have known since 9/11 - that the Bush administration, the hard right, was complicit in the 911 attacks?

It is so obvious, yet hard to embrace, emotionally. That's how you hide a big lie - right out in the open.

- look at where the money flowed from to instigate the attacks
- look at where the money and power have flown as a result of 911
- look at who is hiding evidence
- look at who benefitted (certainly wasn't AlQueda).
- look at who was calling for a 9-11 style attack to use as the impetus of their published world domination plan which is, at this moment, proceeding as planned (2 down a few more to go).

Now ask youself - who did it?

If you cannot tell who the bad guy is here, you need to keep thinking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. they don't encourage thinking
That is the problem. They don't think. They take whatever Fox news tells them as gospel. Thinking is bad. Thinking gets you in trouble.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:17 PM
Response to Original message
2. What's the Connection Between
Christian Reconstructionists and Islamic terrorists? I missed that one.

I do think the tone is changing, thought. No more "popular war president." "Exaggerating the evidence to get us into Iraq" has been repeated so often it's become an indelible meme like "I am not a crook."

The more people hear about the Valerie Plame incident, the more support Bush loses.

And I'm sure there will be more surprises. The CIA is now on the case. Cheers!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Oh, that's a good one!
Grover Norquist was behind the hiring of the muslim chaplains arrested at Gitmo and also behind the stonewalling of investigations into the Saudi's financing of terrorists! Revealed on Keith Olberman....There's a transcript floating around...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Here
Consistent with his radical background, Nawash has served as counsel for Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi, who authorities arrested in September for alleged illegal financial dealings with, and travel to, Libya. “Court documents filed late last Wednesday night claim al-Amoudi has provided ‘financial support to Hamas’ and ‘financial support to fronts for al-Qaida,’” according to NBC News. Describing Al-Amoudi after his arrest, Nawash said, “He is just a liberal Muslim, who wants more Muslims to be involved in the U.S. military and politics to be part of America.” The kinds of people that al-Amoudi might want to involve in the U.S. military probably wouldn’t do much to increase the security of Nawash’s potential constituents.

Conservative stalwart and head of Americans for Tax Reform Grover Norquist has backed Nawash and planned to host a Nawash fundraiser in his home. Interest in Nawash might stem from Norquist’s alliance with al-Amoudi. Norquist is al-Amoudi’s registered lobbyist and has allegedly used his GOP connections to facilitate White House access for extreme Islamists. In addition to accepting substantial seed money from al-Amoudi when he co-founded the Islamic Institute, Norquist has forged relationships with characters such as alleged Islamic Jihad fundraiser Sami Al-Arian, who is in federal custody. Pointed criticism of Norquist has led to internal conservative strife; Norquist has responded primarily by playing the race card. Interestingly, Norquist has lobbied against anti-terror legislation.


http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10516

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
3. From Yahoo: 9-11...Blood Is On Bush's Hands
by: jasonx3000 (27/M)

Kent State professor Walter Davis has articulated in a very coherent way the argument against George W. Bush continuing as the commander of the most deadly arsenal ever seen on this planet.

Read the whole piece at:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4582.htm

It's titled "Compelling Evidence for Complicity." Davis points out the government has tried to cop a plea of ineptitude in failing to prevent the 9/11 disaster, but the professor concludes this excuse is "not consistent with the known facts."

With flawless logic and perfect professorial prose, Davis outlines and elaborates 22 reasons why he thinks Bush not only knew but helped plan and execute the tragic 9/11 deception. Davis's items range from the fact that the entire U.S. intelligence community knew the attack was going to happen and the American air defenses were "stood down" ... to historical precedents of leaders who lied about attacks in history. In between is the definitive version of the charges that should be laid upon Bush and all the criminal functionaries who participated in this profound crime against the American people.

I seldom say things are a "must read," but this is one of them, simply for its articulation of the basic crimes of 9/11 and the completeness of the magnitude of the atrocity and its implications.

Read the damn thing. Try not to cry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. I read (and saved) that article when it came out.
It is compelling and frightening reading. Davis is very systematic in outlining the logic that Dubya knew about and did nothing to stop the attacks.

Jazzgirl
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
7. all fine and dandy for the 1% of people this place represents
the rest of the country has to believe it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. You'd be surprised
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 04:52 PM by Must_B_Free
People know what's happening, they just don't want to say it.

What's really happening is a psychologic Civil war in America - the mad losers of previous wars have combined to repay vengenance.

The current enemy is a hybrid of Nazi and Confederate intentions - a"blowwback" of our own, you might say.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. "a psychological Civil War"
wow. that is it!

must be free, thanks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Wow, more please
Must_Be_Free,

This is a fascinating theory...could you post more about this? Also, would you please share some links to places you visit online? I think you have really hit on something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. here- i wrote it up more
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. Oh my yes, I think you hit the nail on the head.
And yes they are very angry about the Nazi and Confederate losses.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
10. the tide has been turning for every week or two from the last 2 years
I'll believe it when I see results.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:53 PM
Response to Original message
12. Bush's War...Boy Those Wingnuts hate that
You can see the squirming on the right...and yes it's a gradual thing.

First there was the attack on patriotism that has now boiled down to bush-hate and the reference that this is "Bush's War". Well wasn't it he who couldn't wait to play with all those things that go boom? If it ain't WhittleAss' war, then whose it it?

Sure was his war when he strutted on the Abe Lincoln.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. kick
a good posting
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. frankly frank I agree
...cause it is a good post

so kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
17. It sure seems pretty clear doesn't it?
The fact that the Bushs and the Binladens and the Saudi royals have been in business together for so many years should give pause to the most skeptical among us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:44 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC