Dean's DU supporters should tell the truth about tax cuts

[sangh0]

(http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=603739#605534)

In another thread (link above), some of Deans supporters on DU are not telling the truth about the middle class tax cuts. According to these Dean supporters, the middle class tax cuts are "Bush*'s tax cuts" and are not Democratic tax cuts. An article that ran on CNN's website puts the lie to this claim.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/06/taxes.debate/index.html

Lawmakers wrestle with competing tax-cut plans
Daschle unveils proposal for Senate Democrats

"With President Bush exhorting lawmakers to support his economic plan, Senate Democrats on Tuesday unveiled a rival measure, one that would offer tax credits to families and businesses, aid to states, but without a key provision sought by the White House: the elimination of taxes on dividends. ...

The plan unveiled by Daschle would do nothing to reduce the taxes on dividends. It includes a new "wage credit" of $300 for every working American, plus another $300 each for the first two children. The plan would also accelerate the child tax credit and the doubling of the standard deduction for married couples. "

After Bush*'s tax plan cut out these tax credits for low-income workers, Dems fought to pass a bill that would extend these credits to low-income workers. Repukes fought the idea:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70C1EF73B540C778CDDAF0894DB404482
DeLay Rebuffs Move to Restore Lost Tax Credit

"House majority leader Tom Delay says House will not consider Democratic measure to extend tax credit to 6.5 million low-income families unless modification of new law is part of broader tax-cut package; Republican leader, irked at mounting criticism of last-minute omission, says there are 'a lot of things that are more important'; several Republican senators have signed onto measure to extend $400-per-child credit increase to families earning from $10,500 to $26,625, group included in original Senate bill but left out in conference; $3.5-billion measure, financed by cutting corporate tax shelters and changing accounting practices, was attached to energy bill, which was then pulled by Republican leaders; White House backs Sen Charles Grassley's proposal to include child credits in any additional legislation cutting taxes"

The truth of the matter is that Dean is getting a lot of heat for backing a repeal of legislation that will have the effect or raising taxes on middle-class Americans, and instead of owning up to the real reason for why Dean wants to raise taxes on the middle-class (ie balancing the budget, a Repuke goal) his supporters are falsely claiming that we have to choose between tax cuts and health care and education.

[AWD]

1. Twist, bash, twist, bash

Big yawner here.....

[sangh0]

2. Thank you

for the well-reasoned and informative post.

[Skinner]

3. I'm locking this thread.

You are welcome to discuss Deans position about Tax cuts. But please do not start a thread by suggesting that Deans supporters are liars.

Skinner
DU Admin

[sangh0]

4. Here's another thread repeating the lie

that the middle class tax cuts are Bush*'s tax cuts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=604148

[Nazgul35]

5. what's the matter...two seperate threads....

aren't enough....you have to start a third?

The issue is one of getting elected....since most candidates are trailing Dean it begs the question of how others would succeed...

To talk directly to your idea that Dean proposes raising the middle classes' taxes....are you fooling yourself into thinking that the repugs are not going to be able to convince the public that the tax cuts benefit them? Hell, how do you think they passed to begin with!!!

And just how is your guy going to repeal any tax cuts better than Dean?

AT least Dean is offering the public real policies with the chance of implimenting them with the money that would come from repealing the tax cuts....

I.E. healthcare, perscription drugs, education, homeland security, aid to the states, etc...

And I also remind you that of all the candidates....Dean is the only one who has experience as a chief executive getting a Republican legislature to budge on policies that he supports....

and don't worry, one thing Dean will promise is that if we don't have the money to fund a program, it won't get funded.....try selling defecit spending to the American public...they like over spending on social programs less than they do on defense.....

but that's ok....keep spinning this malarkey....maybe it'll stick...

One thing about Dean's campaign...he has to dat been on top of what the public image of him is....something that the other candidates have not shown much strength in.....