Here's a frightening thought on Bush, Iraq, and 2004 Elections

[Larkspur]

Do you think Bush would pull US troops out of Iraq to raise his re-election chances and allow Iraq to collapse into chaos and rise with a Shite/Al Queda government so that he can order nuclear bombs dropped on Iraq just in time for the 2004 November elections?

The only Bush drawback would be the oil reserves would be radioactive.

[terrya]

1. Not even Bush would be stupid enough to use nukes.

I want to believe that, anyway.

[gWbush is Mabus]

3. then why does he want to develop mini-nukes?

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[elfwitch]

2. No.

I think they are approaching this war thing with blinders on. If they were serious about eniding the war, they would have accepted UN help. If they were serious about ending the war, they wouldn't be planting fake letters and ramping up the big publicity campaign to "rah-rah" for the war. They look at this the same way they look at the tax cuts. More is better. People want more of these things. More will help us win.

[damnraddem]

4. But when all those troops hit the U.S. , they might talk to ...

family and friends about the reality on the ground in Iraq. And that would certainly hurt Dubya at the polls. Then, those troops would get a load of Dubya's cuts in military and veteran's benefits. That would really hurt him.

[LeahMira]

5. No, it will be covered up and/or disappeared.

But when all those troops hit the U.S. , they might talk to ...
family and friends about the reality on the ground in Iraq.

It won't happen. Know why?


American Prisoners of War in German Death, Concentration, and Slave Labor Camps
Daniel B. Drooz

Using 16 personal interviews, government documents from Germany and the US, the author
explores the experience of American POWs who were held in German concentration, death and
slave labor camps. The work provides detailed accounts that document the presence of
American POWs in these camps, and explores the reasons why the US government
systematically suppressed information about them. .... Other allied nations accepted the
reports of their returning troops, but the US government denied the facts and covered them up.


Read the last line... the US government denied the facts and covered them up.

I helped the author prepare his manuscript for publication (page layout only) and got to read these men's personal testimonies. THEY know why and how it all happened, and some are finally speaking out now. No, I'm not the author's agent. Honest! But the Bush family was involved back then and the Bush family has had fifty years to enlarge its reach and its web of allies. When money is involved, lives mean nothing. Believe it.

[Pale_Rider]

6. What drawback?

Oil reserves are deep underground and would be shielded from radioactivity. Of course new pumping and refining facilities would be needed (a definite boost for Halliburton!).

[number six]

7. I know there's some pretty machiavellian types

around Bush, but they haven't got that level of control. They're reacting to events now, not creating them.

[jokerman93]

8. I doubt pulling out of Iraq is an option

My guess is WMD will be "found" in Syria or Iran or in transit somewhere else. This will give Bush an "I told you so" advantage at a critical point in the coming election cycle.

But we might need a national crisis in which the will of the Amercan public will be superceded by FEMA necessity.

I have ominous feelings about this neocon bunch. At this point I believe there's no depth to which they will not stoop in order to "win". These fruitcakes have world dominion in their sights. Even now when their whole house of cards is collapsing, they're still muttering the same (increasingly bizarre) spins in the glaring face of reality.

They're either insane, or they're planning something that will serve to justify all this obscurantism and lying.

Or maybe they just believe God will save them in the eleventh hour because they have been chosen...

[elfwitch]

12. th same ol' spin

That is the thing I find most amazing. They keep spinning the same old message over and over again. It is like a broken record with these guys. it is almost like they are all in some zombie like trance.

[Larkspur]

13. I believe that Bush and the Neocons are insane

There's no rational justification for Bush's tax cuts or launching the Iraq War at the expense of losing the War on Terror.

Bush's governance style is not doing what is good for our commonwealth, but what is good for the wealthy who donate to him.

As the Bible says, "The love of wealth is the root of all evil." We are living in evil times.

[rucky]

9. 87 Billion Reasons That would be Political Suicide

he's committed now. He could've done it before he brought us the tab.

[Ficus]

10. You have a point

the 87 Bil makes it hard to jump ship. But as I've heard some say before - the decision to go in was political, therefore the decision to leave will be the same. If Bush thinks the only way to win is get out - by November 2004 everyone will be home, UN or not.

:dem: :dem:

[NewJeffCT]

11. My guess

Is that they will find some sort of WMD somewhere and Bush will use that as his justification and his popularity takes off - I'm guessing this will happen some time after the New Year...so, the glow of finding WMD should last long enough that people won't notice the economy.

(who knows - maybe the conspiracy theorists think Karl Rove is having some mad right wing scientists make some up now to plant in Iraq?)

[rusk2003]

14. No but I know what Republican The President and Congress is going to do

As we go into the 2004 election year the republicans will be running their propganda machine 24/7 reminding us that war is a last resort look at our we peacefuly solved the North Korea situation. Than they will go on to tell we are useing diplomacy with this and that conutry.

Then as soon as the Republicans and President Bush is re elected it will be The weapons are in Syryia we must Invade we need to Invade Iran and maybe North Korea. The republican will bend over backwards to appeal to the moderats in 2004 but as soon as they are re elceted they will turn into the true Right Wing Neo Conservatives they are. I can not think of one moderate Republican in Congress today.

As for Nuclear bombs the republican type of war is the type like vietnam where we loose massive numbers of troops.

[DealsGapRider]

15. Um, no. I don't think that will happen.

I don't think cows will sprout wings and migrate to the Canary Islands either.

[Ouabache]

16. The oil would be radiated but

aren't we finding that Saddam over-estimated the oil reserves there by around 70% anyway? Seems I have read here a few times that the amount of oil in the estimates is probably not there, and that this has just been learned...

So suddenly by irradiating it all it would be 70% less bad oil than we would have all presumed just a year ago.

[mlawson]

17. It would have to be done very soon.

One possibly convenient time would be right before Xmas, when many reporters will be going on and on about, "The soldiers need to be celebrating Xmas at home with their families" shtick. A withdrawal could be effected then, with minimal political fallout or excuse. Otherwise, a pullout would just look too fishy....