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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:29 PM
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White House website hanky panky
A robots.txt file is a file that tells spiders, like those used by search engines, what material they are not allowed to download. In other words, it is a file that restricts what material may be indexed by search engines.

The White House robots.txt is over 1,500 lines long.

Below is just a short sample of that file. The whole thing can be seen at http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt .

Disallow: /911/911day/iraq
Disallow: /911/911day/text
Disallow: /911/heroes/iraq
Disallow: /911/heroes/text
Disallow: /911/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/text
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/text
Disallow: /911/progress/iraq
Disallow: /911/progress/text
Disallow: /911/remembrance/iraq
Disallow: /911/remembrance/text
Disallow: /911/response/iraq
Disallow: /911/response/text
Disallow: /911/sept112002/iraq
Disallow: /911/sept112002/text
Disallow: /911/text
Disallow: /afac/index.htm/text
Disallow: /afac/iraq
Disallow: /afac/text
Disallow: /agencycontact/iraq
Disallow: /agencycontact/text
Disallow: /appointments/iraq
Disallow: /appointments/text
Disallow: /ask/20030515/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030515/text
Disallow: /ask/20030520/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030520/text
Disallow: /ask/20030625/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030625/text
Disallow: /ask/20030701/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030701/text
Disallow: /ask/images/iraq
Disallow: /ask/images/text
Disallow: /ask/iraq
Disallow: /ask/print/iraq
Disallow: /ask/print/text
Disallow: /ask/text
Disallow: /ask/video/iraq
Disallow: /ask/video/text
Disallow: /cea/iraq
Disallow: /cea/text
Disallow: /ceq/iraq
Disallow: /ceq/text
Disallow: /climatechangefactsheet/iraq
Disallow: /climatechangefactsheet/text
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:31 PM
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1. 9/11, Iraq, Climate Change
Sounds about right.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:33 PM
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2. Would the robots.txt file also exempt content...
...from those "archive" websites, that save historical website content?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:35 PM
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4. Yes, I think so.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:33 PM
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:44 PM
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5. my favorites
Disallow: /president/september11/iraq
Disallow: /stateoftheunion/2002/text


muhahahahahaha

:dem: :dem:
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:54 PM
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6. Bush isn't respomsible for this
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 03:57 PM by StClone
This is scary.

Bush has an awareness of the protective wall of secrecy built by his autonomous minions. The secrecy has been built to keep us Americans from the truth because it is so horrible to him.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:55 PM
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7. *kick*
nt
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:12 PM
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8. In Slashdot
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:17 PM
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9. thanks
I go to Slashdot most days, but somehow missed this one.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:22 PM
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10. Time to Google some dates
Disallow: /ask/20030515/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030515/text
Disallow: /ask/20030520/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030520/text
Disallow: /ask/20030625/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030625/text
Disallow: /ask/20030701/iraq
Disallow: /ask/20030701/text
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:42 PM
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11. epa.gov - 864 lines
Disallow: /oppbppd1/biopesticides/factsheets/
Disallow: /oppecumm/
Disallow: /CumulativeExposure/
Disallow: /Cumulativeexposure/
Disallow: /cumulativeexposure/
Disallow: /oppefed1/ecorisk/old/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/climate/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse1/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse10/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse11/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse12/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse14/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse15/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse2/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse3/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse4/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse5/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse6/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse7/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse8/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/greenhouse9/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/greenhouse/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/impacts/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/kids/images/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/resources/
Disallow: /oppeoee1/globalwarming/transfer/

More - http://www.epa.gov/robots.txt
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:47 PM
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12. robots.txt is a SUGGESTION only...
So, that content is probably indexed somewhere by somebody... But most of the top name search engines WILL respect robots.txt.

-Ben
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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:54 PM
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13. What I don't get
Is why a government website that we pay for is blocking any search engine or spider from indexing or archiving. I can understand commercial websites wanting to block them it can use up a lot of bandwidth if you have a bunch of pages and robot comes through and caches everything. It seems to me though for a government website to do it would be some sort of FOI violation.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:59 PM
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14. DU has their own disallow list - what are they hiding? (WH list legit?)
This is an email from my best friend, which he send in response to my sending him this link.

Before you flame him, I'd like to point out he is a die hard democrat but he's also a man of science and looks at things skeptically:

---
Well, a couple of things about this.

1. There's a lot of reasons to use the REP (Robot Exclusion Protocol). Hiding information is one, but there are several legitimate reasons to use it as well. One is keeping robots from cataloging or persisting obsolete or even removed URL's. Another big one is site management. A large website like whitehouse.gov wants to be able to manage itself and manage how users access portions of the web site. If you go to the main whitehouse.gov site, at the top right is a text box you can use to search. Put in "iraq" and hit Search. You'll get back 1600-some results, and if you scrolled through there you would probably find most of these "disallowed" url-bits. Why? The whitehouse, which believe me is a closely monitored web site, probably doesn't want users hopping in and out on random information theyf ind from external search engines.

I don't immediately get suspicious when websites use filtering for search robots. Not a problem. What is interesting about this particular robots.txt file is that everything that is being filtered uses the same format. It is odd, no doubt about that. , do you have any context around this find? Did somebody have any more information about the format of whitehouse.gov URL's and why these would be filtered specifically?


2. I could be wrong, but I am not aware of any federal imperative to make all information that is technically "public information" available to the public via the Web. So you said, because the information is public they can't just yank it from the web site. But why not? Is there an imperative in place that requires the Feds to keep any and all "once-made-public" information always public? And via the web? If not, then I suspect that there are reasons

3. Check out the covert action on the following website. They have a whole "archive" directory that is inaccessible to search engines. What kind of secrets could it contain?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/robots.txt

And lastly, , you know I'm just giving you shit. :-)
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:20 PM
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15. I agree with you're friend
If they really wanted something hidden it would be. Having a "robots" list is not at all uncommon. I really only find it interesting if there is one seriously extensive list. A few key words could filter out a lot of unnecessary traffic so why go to such trouble to make such a detailed list - especially since we pay for that site.
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