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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:18 PM
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NPR's Terri Gross coming up on Buchanan & Press Next (its 6:30 now)
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 06:29 PM by Mika
edited to DST time in headline

Interviewing her on her O'reilly interview and NPR's apology.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:23 PM
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1. Thanks,
I'll watch that. How dare NPR apologize.:hi:
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:25 PM
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3. NPR made me sick with that
To bend over for O'really was just about as low as they can get.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:40 PM
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9. I wish they hadn't, but then again
It's probably better that they did. Let O'Really feel vindicated, and maybe eventually he will shut the fuck up about it.

Part of me thinks he blew this way out of proportion because he was looking for another fight (like the one he has with Franken). This gives him more publicity, and makes him seem more credible to conservatives (many of whom are getting sick of him) because he is being "attacked" by the "liberal media".
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:44 PM
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15. who apologized? and did they say for what?
since it was O'Really who was rude?

links?

story?

anyone?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:37 PM
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7. NPR's independent ombudsman
Not NPR itself. She made that distinction. The ombudsman is supposed to decide whether or not NPR is being fair and balanced.
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edward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:39 PM
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8. what is the difference?
Is the NPR ombudsman not an employee of NPR?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:41 PM
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12. That is what she implied
The person (Mark ?) is independently appointed.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:44 PM
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14. Here's what I found in a quick Google
See number 5.


B. The Mandate and Office of Ombudsman

1. The Ombudsman is the public's representative to National Public Radio, empowered to respond to significant queries, comments and criticisms regarding NPR programming.

2. The Ombudsman will serve as an independent source of information, explanation, amplification and analysis for the public regarding NPR's programming and NPR's adherence to its programming standards and practices.

3. The Ombudsman is empowered to receive complaints from the public regarding NPR programming, and refer the complaints to relevant management for response.

4. Should a complainant deem a response from NPR management unsatisfactory, the Ombudsman is empowered to investigate NPR's standards and practices with regard to the matter raised, respond to the complainant, inform the management of findings and conclusion, and make public any conclusion(s) if the issue is relevant to people other than the complainant. The Ombudsman may also intervene if NPR management fails to provide a timely response to a complaint.

5. The Office of the Ombudsman is completely independent of NPR staff and management, reporting directly to the President and, through the President, to NPR's Board of Directors.

6. The NPR Ombudsman will identify issues and trends in contemporary artistic, editorial, and journalistic broadcast programming for the benefit of NPR's professional staff, member stations, and the public. The Ombudsman will use on-air broadcasts, and online and public discussion groups to present issues and suggest ways for NPR's practices to uphold the highest professional standards.

7. The Ombudsman will be available upon request to member stations and to the public to represent NPR by addressing issues of contemporary broadcast programming and public radio's role in American society.

8. The Ombudsman shall prepare and present an annual report to the President and to the NPR Board. This annual report shall also be made public.

9. The Ombudsman shall assist, as required, with the writing and editing of NPR's guide to standards and practices.
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edward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:51 PM
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22. The ombudsman is an employee of NPR.
Don't have quote of Terri Gross so don't know she thinks she is not being criticized by NPR.
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:24 PM
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2. Can anyone give a play by play...
no news cable here and I'm sure some office DU'ers would be interested as well.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:43 PM
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13. WHO APOLOGIZED?
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 06:46 PM by Woodstock
Please fill us in on what happened.

Last I heard O'Really was rude to Gross, who in my opinion after all these years is a VERY nice lady.

Now someone apologized for her - a longstanding host - at the insistence of a foul beast like O'Really? That's ludicrous.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:44 PM
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16. NPR's ombudsman apologized (nt)
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:45 PM
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17. what did he say?
I'm sorry you are an ugly shit? (to O'Really)

I'm sorry for what?

Details, please.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:48 PM
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19. I'll see what I can google up for you
Here's the fastest one I could find. From http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/2003/10/23/entertainment/7089578.htm

PEOPLE: NPR ombudsman: Gross went too far

Terry Gross went too far during her re---cent "Fresh Air" interview with conservative-leaning Bill O'Reilly, National Public Radio's om-budsman says. In a rare NPR criticism of Gross, Jeffrey A. Dvorkin said he agreed with listeners who complained about Gross' "negative tone." "By the time the interview was about halfway through, it felt as though Terry Gross was indeed 'carrying (liberal author) Al Franken's water,' as some listeners say," Dvorkin said. Humorist Franken has excoriated O'Reilly. Gross, who has an audience of 4 million for her weekday NPR show, responded that some of Dvorkin's criticisms "play right into the hands of O'Reilly. O'Reilly has the attitude that if you criticize him, you are therefore a part of the, quote, liberal media and therefore you are part of the, quote, 'cultural jihad against O'Reilly.' "

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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:52 PM
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24. thanks - he went over the top with the apology
there was no need to use rabid dittohead language - just say sorry you were offended, O'Really, that was not our intention, and leave it at that, if he must grovel
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edward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:53 PM
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25. Several story links are at www.artsjournal.
Links to the ombudsman's official page. Also to an interview with Gross about this matter.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:56 PM
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27. thanks
:)
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edward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:00 PM
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28. direct link to story
NPR Ombud Chides Terry Gross
go to main page and hit "media"
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:14 PM
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29. Apology Boy did get in some O'Really jabs
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 07:17 PM by Woodstock
This "put O'Reilly at his most prickly and defensive," Dvorkin said, "and Gross was never able to get him back into the interview in an effective way."...

Dvorkin also confessed he's puzzled by a larger question.

"O'Reilly often loves to use NPR as his personal political pinata, and NPR keeps helping him by inviting him to appear."

had he left the "ly" off the first adjective - that's really O'Really
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edward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:39 PM
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30. In trying to seem fair(criticizing OReilly) he never said what the job
of a journalist or interviewer is. Dvorkin did not show that Gross was unfair to OReilly, but that because OReilly walked out, it must be her fault. Did any quote from the Franken book she used not deserve to be read in public?; was it obscene?
The real problem is that NPR defends OReilly because...it is OReilly.
That is what's so shameful about their(his)action. We all know OReilly deliberately provokes his interviewees(he has cut off their microphone).
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:25 PM
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4. I was wondering what time zone you were in!
Cableless masses appreciate DU play-by-play -- GREATLY
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:28 PM
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5. I'm watching
:hi:
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:32 PM
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6. me too........Press says OReilly planned to walk out
says on his show the day before, OR said he was going to expose NPR for the leftwing propagandists they are.

something like that.......taping
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:56 PM
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26. it was a setup
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 06:57 PM by Woodstock
damned if they do, damned if they don't

next time, bring him on and just let him ramble to himself - the people who complained are not her regular listeners (ie, they are not educated people, just rabid morans) so here is what will happen

they won't have any card to play on behalf of their master

&

the educated people who don't watch Fox will be so turned off by the propaganda, he will sway any swing voters to vote for ABB
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:40 PM
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10. She's doing a great job
So, B.O. *did have an agenda going into the interview.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:41 PM
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11. Buchanan......
showed his ass, as should be expected. He treated Terry very badly.:grr:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:46 PM
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18. Yeah, but she handled his skank ass well
:D
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GAspnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:49 PM
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20. I wish she had told Buchanan
that not all interviews are hatchet jobs. And (too late, as usual) I thought of reading back his "my tax dollars" crack as "Oh, and your tax nickel ...".

She did point out how small the portion of government contributions is and I thought overall she handled Buch pretty well.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:51 PM
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21. Props to Gross...
... foul smelling raspberries to NPR.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:51 PM
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23. I recorded the segment. Who can host a 3.1mb MP3 recording of it?
Let me know. Wonk? GFP?
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:56 PM
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31. Why not write to Terry/show support - here is the address
freshair@whyy.org

most of the people complaining were likely Faux News O'Reilly clones who had their letters of complaint ready before the show even aired

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:22 PM
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32. Appalling, if true
Pathetic that NPR apoligized to O'Liely for the interview, if this is true. After all, FOX never apologizes when their goose-stepping goons tear into people on their network (like O'Really and Sean Asshat do every day). This is pure bullshit!

NPR and Terry Gross should be proud of what they do. They are an information service, and members of the media. If fair, no need to apologize.

Anyone have the link to the alleged apology?
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