Sen Rockefeller on Hardball (MSNBC)

[Cush]

on now with Trent Lott

[Cush]

1. Rockefeller

"I always knew it was the WH who did the banner. I just think he's insulting our troops"

[Beetwasher]

2. Wow! The Banner Lie is an Issue!

Go figure...

[salin]

6. wow.

no offense, but how vacuous. THere are a gazillion lies and serious misdoings emanating from this WH. But what captures the short-attention span of the tv news media/viewers? The Banner lie. Oh boy - pass on the Plame affair and bring on bannergate. I am depressed.

[julka]

8. amen, Salin

I started this thread, and look how many responses it got.]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=607272

Joe Wilson available for online questions^

look at the amoeba-like spread of banner-related posts.....not that it's a bad thing

ANY port in a storm....if it captures the public's imagination, shows what a lying POS he is, it can't hurt

[salin]

18. thanks for linking that thread - I missed it

gave more of my rant than a question - but will think about it and try to add other questions later.

[stopbush]

10. But this particular LIE was given the Hollywood treatment

It's the law of every action having an equal and opposite reaction.

[julka]

14. agreed

will the press give it the HUGE coverage to the admission of the "misunderstanding" (according to an anonymous WH spokesman) this incident caused?

based on the medias' track record over the last 11 years, one can only feel the goblet is half empty

[salin]

19. does that mean they will make an action figure

with Bush having to take back the lie?

[Beetwasher]

12. I think you took my statement wrong

I agree w/ you whole heartedly...I meant it in an ironic/sarcastic way, thus my "Go figure"...Obviously there are much more important issues I would like to see exposed more fully...Every lie exposed does count though :shrug:

I wouldn't be too depressed though. There mere fact that they're covering this ridiculous little lie is in itself encouraging...Meanwhile, the Plame Affair isn't going away, you can bet on it...

[salin]

22. my reaction wasn't to you - it was to what you are reporting

we react way to similarly (on the serious scale) to these issues for me to have read you cursorily as being vaccuous.

COme, let us go to Julka's thread - let's add some questions for Ambassador Wilson.

[Beetwasher]

26. I should've known!

;-)

See at Julka's!

[bobbieinok]

13. Nixon lost his base support

when the tapes showed that he swore, ie, 'used the Lord's name in vain.'

Sometimes it's the trivial little thing that may really strike home.

[salin]

27. its true.. just depressing

as a public we can just be so shallow. I mean - in the magnitude of things... lie to go to war - or lie about WHO ordered the banner.

[qwertyMike]

29. It's a minefiled

The political procees. Usually the tiny things blow up.
Nixon's 5-o'clock shadow, Muskie's tears, Nixon swearing.

Weird

[TacticalPeek]

15. Plame is just on a low flame now. Much more to come. And go.

:evilgrin:

[salin]

28. Did you read Marshall's newest area of questioning/wondering

predates Wilson entering the Niger story... looks at the dates of when Cheney first pushes Niger... which is months before the story goes to the Italians... so who got it to Cheney... and how did it get to the businessman who took it to the Italian broadcaster???? Go to www.talkingpointsmemo it should be one of the recent blog entries.

[Papa]

30. Don't be depressed

This is an issue that is simple to understand, so simple that the American public can digest it and understand it because it can be comprehended in 5 seconds, and it's not perceived as mudslinging. Bush's own words are being used against him. Maybe it'll have legs.

Bush said that the Mission Accomplished sign wasn't his idea, it came from the sailors. My mom can understand this issue (and she thinks Bush is a "good man" <sigh> ), . It's black and white. Simple. Who would believe that the sailors actually made that big sign? This cuts right to the heart of his integrity that Americans can understand. He lied about a damn sign. Sure there are bigger issues and crimes he has commited agains our country, but damn, if the Republicans can impeach Clinton for a BJ, then we can bash the shit out of Bush for blatently lying about a sign.

As Carville would say, "What are we going to tell the children?"

[Cush]

3. More

He decided long ago to go to war in Iraq, long before the vote, etc. He misgauged the evidence

[proud patriot]

4. Helmet Head defending the traitor

:puke:

[CatWoman]

9. I dunno PP

You see that smirk (er shit-eating grin) Trent kept flashing each and every time he tried to defend *.

Lott knows the deal, and he ain't trying that hard :D

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. Trott may feel he owes Junior a kick in the rear for not defending the...

...statements Trott made at the Strom Thurmond get-together. After all, everyone knows that Junior thinks in nearly identical patterns.

There's no defense for either one of those two monkey-farts, but it's as good an explanation as any.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

5. Did Tweety turn against Bush?

I've seen remarkably little ass-kissing from him lately, and he even opened up today's show by talking about Bush's lie about the "Mission Accomplished" banner.

And now this question: "Aren't our troops sitting there in a crow shoot?"

What is this, Bizarro-ball?

[rucky]

16. Tweety's on an upward mood swing n/t

[Cush]

7. Kicking ass

"It was insane to think they all would openly welcome us, its not in their history...etc...."

[Cush]

11. Eww Ralph Reed

talking about the new poll numbers. How the hell can people think the Economy is getting better?

[kiahzero]

17. Matthews seems to be less of a whore this evening

I'm only half listening, but it sounds like he's calling Reed on his bullshit. (If we weren't losing people every day, would that be a sign that we're losing? You're not making any sense...)

[julka]

25. taping this......watching later, but T always treats RR w/kid gloves

he goes after some wingnuts, leaves others alone.

trying to decide if there's a certain power (asscheek?) level above which his lips don't reach?

hope is going after Reed tonight.

that may signal a change, but I think there's something to the idea that Matthews is bipolar, or at least occasionally seized by fits (pangs?) of conscience.

[grytpype]

20. Where does this all lead?

I totally agree that savaging Bush on Iraq is 100% fair, but where is this headed? I mean, what do we want to have happen? And is savaging Bush the way to make that happen?

[frank frankly]

21. yes, savaging Dumbya is the only way to get out of Iraq

the only regime change needed is in the USA

[Cush]

23. 9/11 Widow is coming up

to talk abou the stonewalling