Read this guy's article on Dean...

[Some Moran]

http://www.adamyoshida.com/

This moran has done what not even Coulter or Limbaugh is capable of doing: Write or say something that contains more lies than it does words.

[Dagaz]

1. That blog is dead on

Sorry to all the Deanheads and you all have your right of opinion (which could be correct) but I see Dean as the biggest disaster since McGovern. Since he'll win NY, Washington and maybe CA it won't be as bad but Dean is the great Republican hope for the Senate.

[RetroLounge]

2. Do you care to back that absudity up with any facts?

or are you just gonna spout the RW talking points?

and you can refer to me as a "Dean Supporter" thank you, and you can call him Governor or Dr. Dean, but you may want to practice calling him "President" Dean.

Say it with me:

President Dean.

Got a nice ring to it...

[progressivestudent]

5. No

They are going to try to Dukakisize Dean, but Dukakis didn't fight back, that was his big downfall, same with McGovern. A Dean campaign will fight.

[Guaranteed]

13. That's right.

That's exactly WHY we're gonna win this. Because where everyone else would cower in fear Dean is gonna hit back, and he's gonna hit back hard.

[janekat]

10. Now I'm totally depressed....

I didn't even think about how Congress would be affected by this whole thing. We're doomed....

[madfloridian]

25. Janekat, why are taking this blog so seriously.

This guy, further down, wants to have a crusade against the Islamic world. He thinks Gen. Boykin deserves a medal.

If you are going to attack constantly, choose better sources.

[JohnKleeb]

28. You wanna see what Boykin deserves MF

not a medal.

[madfloridian]

Ha Ha, Amen.

Gotta give you credit, John. You love DK, but you are always fair to all candidates. Thanks.

[JohnKleeb]

37. I try honest

Though I have nearly lost my temper and did last night but seriously, General Boykin needs not a medal for what he said as I suggested. one of this babies. I just try my best, I get angry just like all of you, and would like the same in return.

[unfrigginreal]

12. Really...Guess you liked the General Boykin is Right story eh?

That blog is nothing but an extension of freerepublic and isn't it interesting that so many in this thread are ready to believe the writings.

[killbotfactory]

14. Yeah, yeah, yeah.. doom gloom...

It's okay, Dean peaked to early. He has nowhere to go.

[madfloridian]

20. Give us your opinion on this guy's wish to have a crusade!

Waiting.

[madfloridian]

22. Again, do you agree with the rest of the blog about the crusades?

Do you?

[JohnKleeb]

3. lol

"Third, they’ll try to out-argue you with irrelevant minutiae and biased sources (Howard Zinn says… Noam Chomsky says…)"
Sorry I am cracking up because Zinn is a Kucinich endorser and Chomsky likes him as well, btw this blog is nutty as can be. I wonder what Adam would say about DK.

[papau]

4. Seems that our GOP friend has issues with gays and minorities speaking 2

or more languages.

Indeed, it is not the "unAmerican liberal" that is the problem to this fellow, it is the cool over-educated unAmerican liberal that follows Dean that he has the largest problem with.

I'd guess his age at 17, with few dates, and worried about his sexuality.

[JohnKleeb]

7. lol yea pap

"Praising Howard Dean for his ‘centrism’ is a lot like praising those members of Stalin’s Politburo who only wanted to hold some show trails for their forbearance and level-headedness."
:eyes:
This guy Adam is such an asshole. Hey Adam, sign up for the call of duty.

[progressivestudent]

6. My Response to Dear Old Adam

You know, there's nothing wrong with what you are doing. but why? I mean, if you don't like the man or his policies, why abuse a successful campaign, furthermore why implant yourself into US politics, especially that of primary politics. If you have something to say to American voters about why you dislike Howard Dean, by all means do it, but do not do it under the guise of a supporter. To do so is dishonest, and does not advance yourself or your opinion.

Also, you simply write Dean off as the unelectable liberal. The truth is Dean is more to the center then most of the candidates. The only reason he gets written off as the "far-left" is because he was opposed to the war, opposed to the war in giving the president a blank check to do what he wanted. Something, that even now Republican officals are regretting.

The Dean campaign is actually a new breed of the Democratic wing, not totally bound by the politics of the New Deal which became rejected in the 80s, but also with the Triangulation of the Clinton years, which like the guy or not, has been some of the most successful political manuvering in years. The Democratic Wing he represents is a growing majority, something Republican pollsters are predicting and are trying to combat, of a mainly post-industrious society, holding values which are becoming the core of the new Democratic party--equality, balanced budgets, healthcare, environmental, and labor laws along with employment security. Recent national polls indicate this, with a margin of error of 4%, Dean is the most electable candidate along with Wesley Clark should the election be held today, and even the Bush team is no longer writing him off as the too liberal candidate. Dean has managed to attract people of all sides of the political spectrum, because he represents the true core Democratic values, not the values you seem to think are our core. By the way, (name) for America is nothing new. It's used by both sides of the Aisle. Also, the West Wing campaign stories are more centered around the Clinton campaign, they even use the Clinton 92 3 part mantra "Change vs. More of the same, It's the economy, stupid, Don't Forget Healthcare"

Sorry, I guess I don't fit into your theory of political debate.

[Skwmom]

8. Well since Dean followers have been sending

talking points that include Republican propoganda (the infamous GOP pollster's memo) it only seems fair that NH/Iowa voters should get to hear the whole story.

[Forkboy]

15. Do you agree with this blog?

[madfloridian]

18. Did you read what this blogger wants to do to followers of Islam?

Did you? Or were you so happy to find a Dean hater that you failed to examine the source.

[Forkboy]

30. Think ya nailed it MF

Or were you so happy to find a Dean hater that you failed to examine the source.

[JohnKleeb]

32. will agree

[madfloridian]

34. If Dean followers do that, they are wrong. You have not answered yet.

You despise Dean so thoroughly, would you say perhaps this blog is not exactly a loving one. I mean, this guy wants to go to war against Islam and would probably put Boykin at the head.

You should respond to the comments on this.

[Skwmom]

9. Duplicate post

[EV1Ltimm]

11. adam yoshida hates 'the gays'.

This is what i got from the article...

Dean supporters want to have homosexual intercourse and abortions
Southerners won't vote for Dean because he doesn't hate 'the gays'
Californians don't like 'the gays' either

and some more of the oh-so-overdone "socialist agenda/no more private property" argument.

[JohnKleeb]

17. I would love to see what Adam thinks of Kucinich

Willing to bet a relative of Marx himself is what he will say.

[progressivestudent]

27. LOL

Just a disclaimer, I may be a Dean supporter, but I have a lot of respect for Dennis.


He'd probably call him "the resurrection of the left side of FDR's brain, still limp with polio as to make him incomprehensible of the American public desire"

I think that's a fair guess.

[JohnKleeb]

29. Thanks glad to see you do

I would love to introduce myself to this guy. You got skill man.

[madfloridian]

16. Did you read the rest of his hateful stuff? I am thankful he hates Dean.

He praises Gen. Boykin mightily. I think your sources should be analyzed before some of you faint at the thought of Dean demolishing our country. I mean, come on, now.

SNIP..."General Boykin Was Right
One of the things that Lieutenant General William ‘Jerry’ Boykin said to so outrage the left was that, when facing off against an enemy in Somalia, he was confident because he knew that his God was real and that the god of his enemy was a false one, an idol. General Boykin is a litmus test in the political side of the War on Terrorism: are you so blinded by the false dogmas of ‘tolerance’ and ‘multiculturalism’ that you would demand the firing of a fine solider simply because he appears to be ill-disposed towards the ‘religion’ of the enemy? Not only should General Boykin not be fired: he ought to get a medal...."

AND now for the really really lovely part:
SNIP...."I have already written at considerable length about the need for a military crusade overseas to destroy Islamism and to kill its supporters. But we need to talk more about the steps necessary to fight back against the Islamic religion itself. It is an unpleasant subject, because freedom of religion is guaranteed by the Constitution and, therefore, we will have to step carefully. But it is one which, for the sake of the Republic, must be tackled.

A good place to start would be placing a ban on Moslem clerics entering prisoners to proselytize. The greatest source of growth in the Islamic religion in America is jailhouse coverts and, as we have seen on many occasions, these converts are extremely dangerous and prone to becoming involved in terrorism. Moreover, such a ban could, for obvious reasons, be sold to a majority of the American people and would send the right sort of signal to the world. END SNIP..

So this guy does not like Dean? Well to that I say thank you Lord that this guy does not like Dean. I would be totally embarrassed if he did!

[JohnKleeb]

23. Thank god hes not one of ours

:puke: by ours I mean democrats. BTW you see his WWII reference. My uncle was in the bulge Adam you bastard and maybe he wasnt a liberal but he could respect them unlike you do. Madfloridan do you know where we can enlist Adam :evilgrin: I am sure he will love Iraq.

[progressivestudent]

24. Don't Forget

This guy isn't even American, he's from Canda, with the only knowledge of American politics from Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity and Fox News.

[JohnKleeb]

26. Hes Canadian and that right wing

Oh dear god. I laughed at the thing about Zinn because not only is Zinn a credible source but Zinn isnt a Dean fan, he endorsed Kucinich today, I guess thats what the media does. I Wonder what he would say about me, I would be so in laughter. I am pretty far to the left.

[progressivestudent]

33. I think

We should all send him our bios and policy statements, and let him profile us for the world. Afterall, who better then Adam.

[paulk]

19. typical right wing blog

Trying to hang the liberal tag on Dean.

The problem with idiots like adam oshida is their perception of reality is so tweaked you can't even argue with 'em.

[JohnKleeb]

21. no hes trying to pin the socialist tag on Dean big difference

and a big :puke:

[madfloridian]

31. There are certain people who write anti-someone stuff, and never respond.

They just post it and walk away. That is wrong. There are others who may not prefer Dean, but they stand and source what they have said. They come back to the thread, and they will either argue their points or admit the source was bad.

I respect the ones who dislike Dean, but stand behind their criticism. I do not respect the ones who do not back up what they say. A couple of people yesterday went way up in my estimation....they said they used unfair criticism.

Some people are so hungry for dirt on other candidates that they just jump on anything that is posted.

[Forkboy]

35. kick

maybe we can get an answer tonight.


or maybe not...

[WilliamPitt]

36. Well, he lost me here:

"Governor Dean, we are told, is a ‘moderate.’ This is inaccurate. At best, he is a ‘Vermont Moderate’, which is to say that he is only moderate when compared with those in that state who wish to collectivise agriculture, mandate homosexuality, and abolish private property. Praising Howard Dean for his ‘centrism’ is a lot like praising those members of Stalin’s Politburo who only wanted to hold some show trails for their forbearance and level-headedness."

"Mandate homosexuality." Right. YOU MUST PUT YOUR PENIS IN THAT MAN'S ASS! VEE HAFF VAYS OFF MAKING YOU HUMP DAT MAN!! Anyone who takes this blog seriously is wasting their brain cells.

[JohnKleeb]

38. I am still waiting for Adam's views on Kucinich lol

Here you are adam. a big tomato.

[madfloridian]

39. OK, this does it! You must all denounce this source now. Read this.

If you can read this and fail to apologize for falling for this guy's flak about Dean, then you must have problems.

http://www.adamyoshida.com/2003_09_01_archive.html
Here he is comparing Sherman's march to our war against Islam....and he has absolutely no heart. This guy has serious problems!

SNIP...."Uncle Billy’s March:
It’s all well and good to talk, as the left does, about peaceful reform. But the kind of radical reconstruction required of the Islamic world rarely comes quickly and is rarely initiated internally. Repressive societies are destroyed more often by the likes of William Tecumseh Sherman’s men in blue and George Patton’s crusading Third Army than they are by cautiously-worded resolutions of the United Nations’ General Assembly.

Before we can build a new Moslem world we must burn down the edifice of the old. Sherman said that the purpose of his march through Georgia and the Carolinas was to fill the South with such a loathing of war that it would be a hundred years before they’d even think of rising again. We must do the same in the Moslem world. We must send our troops marching through Araby.

There will be no end to this war so long as the Islamic world is filled with notions of their own superiority and invulnerability. We must use the means of war to educate those people to the fact that their God will not save them. We do not need to kill great numbers of them to do this. Sherman certainly did not. Rather, we need to teach them the futility of resistance and the falseness of their own creed. It is a popular and self-evidently stupid myth that defeat will strengthen a culture or religion- more often it will destroy it. The Islamic world is a little slice of the Middle Ages, transported through time to the modern day.

The end to this war must be positively Carthaginian.""

[Forkboy]

40. well yeah,but

he DID trash Dean and that's what really matters.

Isn't it?