The CIA and the Nazis-including RW Republican Party

[bobthedrummer]

Banking on it. The Bush Family Evil Empire/BFEE. The Holocaust fortunes. Corporate fascism-globalism. This is mole stuff.
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/ratlines.htm

[Octafish]

1. The GW Bush Gang: IG Farben 2001

We can't say we weren't warned (or "warning" in your case, Bob) about the upcoming Reichstagfeuer in 2001. THIS is what we're talking about, Mr. and Mrs. America:

"What my cabinet shows is that I am not afraid to surround myself with strong and competent people...a good executive is one that understands how to recruit people and how to delegate authority and responsibility." — GW Bush 1-2-01

The GW Bush Gang: IG Farben 2001
By Robert Lederman
1-25-01
 
As promised GW Bush has recruited competent and experienced advisors. Despite their seeming diversity however they have a common denominator. The America they reflect is the oil, pharmaceutical, armament, Wall Street and eugenics interests long associated with the Bush family.
 
Seventy years ago a similar configuration of oil, pharmaceutical, chemical, military supply and eugenics interests were organized by Wall Street into IG Farben/Standard Oil-Hitler's industrial powerhouse. To grasp the real significance of what GW Bush's cabinet has been brought together to accomplish it is essential to understand the history of IG Farben, its relationship with American corporations and how together they applied modern technology to the task of eugenics or scientific racism.
 
According to former US Justice Dept. Nazi War Crimes prosecutor John Loftus -who is today the director of the Florida Holocaust Museum- "The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich," -Sarasota Herald-Tribune 11/11/2000 http://www.newscoast.com/headlinesstory2.cfm?ID=35115 (LINK long dead — Octafish).
 
Along with the Rockefellers (Standard Oil, Chase Manhattan Bank), Mellons (Gulf Oil, Alcoa Aluminum), DuPonts (DuPont Chemicals), General Motors and Henry Ford, banks and shipping companies operated by the Bush family were crucial players in setting up the industrial power behind the Third Reich. These companies poured hundreds of millions of dollars into IG Farben and provided it with technology for tactically-essential synthetic materials-***while withholding the same materials and patents from the US government.***
 
The Rockefeller family, long aligned with the Bushes, owned Standard Oil. Through a stock transfer they became half owners of Germany's IG Farben with Farben likewise owning almost half of Standard Oil. According to the Encyclopedia Brittanica, IG Farben built and operated more than 40 concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Europe, including Auschwitz.
 
CONTINUED...

http://www.rense.com/general7/gw.htm

PS: Those of you who don't like Rense.com, too fucking bad. He prints stuff way before most anybody else — sure, lots is cruddy, yet lots is good info.

[bobthedrummer]

2. Pharmaceutical owner link

www.redflagsweekly.com/storm_warnings/poison.html

[bobthedrummer]

3. Bayer was I.G.Farben, Tommy the man who sold the world Thompson

bragged about his negotiation of price for the 300 million doses of Cipro after the anthrax attacks. Strangely enough Tommy hired Jerome Hauer from SAIC on 9-10-2001 and immediately had staff take Cipro 0n 9-11-2001 well before the anthrax attacks.

[Octafish]

6. Jerome Hauer may be the guy who hired John O'Neill in WTC

Nico Haupt (Ewing2001) is still on the case:

5) We would like to have the official explanation by the FBI as to why Jerome Hauer, member of the John Hopkins Working Group on Civilian Bio Defense and former SAIC and OEM, organized a job for former Terrorist Task Force chief John O'Neill in the Twin Towers, where he died on September 11th.

http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/manifesto.html

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0208/S00068.htm

[bobthedrummer]

9. Tommy Thompson hired Jerome Hauer on 9-10-2001.

n/t

[9215]

27. Next ? Does Hauer know Marvin Bush?

This could be a dead end, but I like to know who knows who in these things.

And what was Hauer's relationship to Securacom, Kuwaitis, etc.

And where was Marvin Bush on 9/11?

[OldSoldier]

20. IG Farben was more than just Bayer

It was Agfa, BASF, Bayer, Hoechst and some "minor chemical companies."

IG Farben was a dye works; Google "dye works" to see how nasty those people play.

[bobthedrummer]

21. Thanks for the reminder.

:hi:

[seemslikeadream]

28. Bayer is one of the very small group of companies in the world

that processes coltan. The Democratic Republic of Congo is possibily the most mineral rich place on earth. 80% of the world's reserves are in Africa, with DRC accounting for 80% of the African reserves. Three million lives lost since 1998. The Holocaust continues.

[bobthedrummer]

4. I find it highly disturbing that two former Director's of the CIA came

from families that actually profited with the Third Reich, George H. W. Bush and Richard McGarrah Helms.

While as information about Thyssen/Bush is readily available there isn't Much about Gates McGarrah first President of the Bank for International Settlements/BIS in 1930.

BIS was long the vision of future Nazi Minister of Economics Hljamar Schacht. Gates McGarrah was Richard McGarrah Helms maternal grandfather. Richard McGarrah Helms gained public recognition as a young UPI reporter that had a world exclusive interview with Adolph Hitler in 1936. Bill Donovan recruited Richard McGarrah Helms for the OSS when he was an executive at UPI.

Richard McGarrah Helms was the leading proponent of US mind control "research" involving at least 80 academic and research organizations in 139 sub-projects ranging from weather modification to assassination techniques.

The Nazi influence is strong deep in the bowels of the CIA.

[leftofthedial]

8. The CIA was patterned on Gehlen's Gestapo

anti-Communism trumped everything, even fascism and even genocide.

[bobthedrummer]

29. Richard McGarrah Helms and domestic programs-Operation CHAOS

Mind control wasn't the only passion that Richard McGarrah Helms had during his career at the Nazi infested CIA. Civil rights, anti-war and other groups of activists during the 1960's and 70's were targeted illegally for disruption upon the suspicion that foreign governments were behind fostering dissidence in the US.

The disclosure by Ramparts magazine about CIA recruitment of students set off the criminal use of every resource of the federal government in attempts to pin foreign involvement on progressive movements with the number one group being Black nationalists and Black power advocates.

After publication of the Ramparts article, on August 3rd, 1967 Helms through his deputy director Karramessines set up MH CHAOS headed by Richard Ober. Many people were discredited, lives ruined and some lives lost as a result of MH CHAOS, there was no foreign involvement found in the domestic dissent.

The abuses of Operation CHAOS continued often at the behest of local Red Squads, old scores were settled, people got away with murder literally.

Just 17 days prior to the resignation of Helms and Karramessines from the CIA on 12-5-72 an operational description change was issued by Helms changing MH CHAOS targets from "political dissidents" to "international terrorists" and CHAOS became the International Terrorism Group also headed by Ober. Source 12-22-74 NYT article by Seymour Hersh.

That's how far back this sham "War on Terrorism" goes IMO to another CIA Director that came from a family that did business with the Third Reich.

Being cozy with "the enemy" is a Helms tradition as Helm's niece Lalia Helms was spokesperson for the Taliban in the US prior to the Afghanistan invasion.

Helms obsession with mind control is a subject worthy of it's own thread-it is very real and was addressed by Dennis Kucinich in the original text of HR2977 Space Preservation Act of 2001 but the language relating to "exotic weapons" including mind control was disappeared from the revised HR3616 Space Preservation Act of 2002.
http://www.raven1.net/govptron.htm

Mind control link from the European Parliament
http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm#1.

[bobthedrummer]

30. Richard McGarrahHelms and mind control.

Richard McGarrah Helms proposed mind control research at the CIA and his boss Director Allen Dulles approved it on 4-13-53.

The proposed research stemmed from the fear of a new communist technology that was being used on Korean War POW's to cause them to defect and issue derogatory statements about that war.

It was quickly found out that there was no communist secret technology involved, but a more basic control of environment and the prisioners who were subjected to psychological pressures often enhanced by the use of drugs and possibly hypnosis.

In fact, many of the PAPERCLIP medical Nazis had been involved in mind control experimentation in the Third Reich and were soon busy for US intelligence in proceeding to continue such experimentation as good guy Americans battling godless communism.

These programs carried such CIA designations as BLUEBIRD, ARTICHOKE and MK-ULTRA. There were at least 149 sub-projects involving 80 instituions in mind control "research". Source: CIA vs. Sims 4-16-85 Burger decision.

The files were ordered destroyed by Helms before his "resignation".
The vast subjects studied all made use of cutting edge science and technology as well as parapsychology and ESP-tin-foil hat stuff.

This research never stopped and an astute reader can see the fruition
of the results in some of the "anti-terrorist" programs today-things like bio-metrics, nanotechnology and the non-lethal arsenal.

Mind control is an ugly term, I define it as the overt/covert use of any medium to influence the behavior of a population or an individual for unknown political purposes.

It isn't democratic, it comes from a totalitarian history aided by the Nazis in US national security. It is used with impugnity by the power elites of our planet, there is no accountability and it is protected by that broadest of brushes-"National Security".

If readers would like to learn more about it there are some reputable mind-control websites, and a ton of unreputable ones. Here are some mind-control websites.
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/

http://www.raven1.net/ravindex.htm

http://www.adacomp.net/~mcherney/

[bobthedrummer]

32. Richard McGarrah Helms failed to destroy 16,000 financial documents

connected to US mind control programs and a good reporter is on to them. Last year the CIA was ordered to disclose some MK-ULTRA operational files.
http://www.rcfp.org/news/2002/0819kellyv.html

[seemslikeadream]

5. Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race

War Against the Weak
Edwin Black

"Mankind's quest for perfection has always turned dark." The "mongrelization" of this country has been on the minds of Americans since the early immigrations of the late 19th century. One of those concerned about the fate of the nation was Charles Benedict Davenport, a Harvard-educated zoologist. In 1902, he used his position as director of the Brooklyn Institute's biological research center on Long Island to secure major funding from the newly formed Carnegie Institution to investigate "methods of Evolution." It proposed segregation, sterilization, and if necessary, euthanasia to achieve its goals.

America's elite supported these ideas from the beginning. Besides Carnegie, early patrons of Davenport's research included the Rockefeller Foundation and Mrs.Harriman, the widow of the railroad tycoon. Eugenics was taught at Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

By the late 1920's, more than half the states in the union had laws to eliminate "undesirables." Tens of thousands were forceibly sterilized; tens of thousands more were denied the right to marry or were insttitutionalized. Some died because doctors withheld treatment from them in an effort to stop "defective germ plasm" from flowing into the Amercian gene pool. The "Ulitimate Program," as it was called in 1923, was to extend negative eugenics to every nation on earth.

The Passing of a Great Race by American eugenicist Madison Grant, read by Hitler while imprisoned in the mid '20, for inciting mob violence and later he wrote a fan letter to Grant declaring the book his "Bible"

[bobthedrummer]

10. Eugenics leader Charles Murray has close relations with Tommy Thompson

he wrote/cowrote "The Bell Curve" and did a lot of the framework of Thompson's federal model of W-2, Wisconsin Works! economic program for welfare reform. A eugenic model.

[bobthedrummer]

7. An unknown number of Nazis were "recruited" as engineers, technicians,

scientists and spies for the US at the time that the US was the sole nuclear power. Many of these nazis were working on advanced projects that used slaves from the camps.

The betrayal of all the services in the allied cause was completed with nazi recruitment IMHO, this meant that real nazis were given identities and jobs as Americans in national security work.

This meant that real nazis were already in place at the foundation of the CIA in 1947's National Security Act-the original intelligence failure indeed with the nazi infestation growing inside IMO.

Some of these nazis became prominent Americans:puke::argh:

The major way they were recruited was through Operation PAPERCLIP.
It was felt that the skills and knowledge these nazis posessed offset their Nazi past in the battle against godless communism. Now that the USSR is no more, the latent fascism is becoming more apparent in some elements of the intelligence community IMHO as a spookwatcher and anti-fascist of 38 years experience. Wake up everyone.

[bobthedrummer]

11. It wasn't just CIA, it was State and Defense Departments too

particularly in rockets and space.
More examples of the Nazi influence in America.
http://www.infoage.org/paperclip.html

http://www.goordnance.apg.army.mil/OPpaperclip.htm

[bobthedrummer]

12. At least President Clinton's Department of Justice pursued Nazis

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/hr071498/holtzman.html

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/hr071498/maloney.html

This adminstration has lots of fascist moles plus the media domestically.

[bobthedrummer]

13. Gold fillings, Auschwitz and George Bush

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm

[seemslikeadream]

18. GOLD Three Million people have died for their gold

since 1998 in Congo.

Khashoggi starts a gold mining company in Canada, Barrick
George Bush Sr. just before leaving office gives Barrick $10 billion in mining rights on public U.S. land for $10,000.

George Bush Sr. becomes a international consultant for Barrick. He helps them get a gold mining concession in Tanzania. The only problem was the gold field there already had gold miners on it which got in the way of the Canadian-Saudi-American deal so it was cleared by running bulldozers across the property. August 1996 the ran bulldozers across the property-smashed the workers houses, filled the mine pitts and chased away 30,000 workers-all but 50. They were buried alive.

One of the top human rights investigators in the world Tundu Lissu sent back photos of crushed corpses-he sent back statements he sent back a videotape of the bodies being exhumed.

So are we all going to say, as many of the German people did, we did not know about the Holocaust, how could we have stopped it? Are we going to have to beg forgiveness because of our blind ignorance? Are we going to be held accountable for what the BFEE has done and continues to do?

[bobthedrummer]

19. The people are not deaf, dumb nor blind

all power to the people.

[Eloriel]

23. OMG -- Are you saying Adnan Kashoggi started Barrick?

Do you happen to have a link for that?

Eloriel

[seemslikeadream]

24. Yes I do Eloriel

Greg Palast said it while talking about the Real Reasons for the Blackout 2003, Elections Past and Present and Disenfranchised Voters on DemocracyNow Friday August 22nd, 2003.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/22/1529206&mode=thread&tid=29
It was close to the very end.

[Eloriel]

31. Thanks n/t

[bobthedrummer]

14. On April2nd 2001, a private aircraft crashed upon takeoff from Green Bay

it crashed into the Morning Glory dairy in Ashwaubenon, WI. The fire burned for days. Green Bay was home to the guy that ran the flight school in Florida where the 19 hijackers trained. Wallace J. Hilliard.

It was under Wally's direction that local American Medical Security/AMS expanded into 32 states with over $1B in premiums. Wally invested in VisionAire, Discover Air-which had 43 pounds of heroin seized on one of their aircraft--for naught, and Huffman Aviation.

It was at Huffman Aviation that the hijackers trained.
http://www.madcowprod.com/

Hilliard family are PNACer's as are the Bradley's of Milwaukee.

[Wapsie B]

34. Isn't it such a coincidence

about all these plane crashes? And some people don't believe in conspiracies.

[ComerPerro]

15. kicking

If nothing else, then to add a bit of parity to the screen names.

[bobthedrummer]

16. How Bush family wealth is Linked to the Jewish Holocaust by Toby Rogers

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html

[bobthedrummer]

17. The nazi inflence in America More vicious than Tricky Dick.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/10/03/dean/index_np.html

[bobthedrummer]

22. "Both wars were planned in advance": Meacher in Boston

http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/09/19/1527251

[bobthedrummer]

25. From the National Archives-Banking with the Third Reich

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/holocaust_era_assets/bibliographies/banking.html

[bobthedrummer]

26. Son-In-Law Seeks to Clear Alleged Nazi

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3327461,00.html

[Wapsie B]

33. Oh for this

to see the light of day in the mainstream press! Time, Newsweek, USA Today here we come. One can only dream.....

[bobthedrummer]

35. Continual threads like this one could make that dream come true

dedicated researchers have documented the betrayal inherent to Nazi recruitment by the US, history documents the results through the generations.

Not all the documents have been destroyed, there are still many people around with specific knowledge about the use of Nazis and their families and American "cousins" sponsoring and profiting with them-I feel as though my father and his generation that fought against fascism in WWII were stabbed in the back, as we all were.