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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:19 PM
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NY Times Frontpage Picture a Synecdoche for the War?
Edited on Wed Oct-29-03 12:22 PM by markses


The picture shows two towering GI's searching the pockets of a (10 year old?) Iraqi boy. he has his hands out: Nothing.

I am not questioning the GI's need to search the boy in this manner (although one wonders what he might be transporting in his tiny pockets), nor am I judging them negatively. Rather, I'd merely like to suggest that the image is a pars pro tota image of the war as a whole. It is an image of our foreign policy: the asymmetry of power, the fruitless search...
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:25 PM
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1. And just think of all the American dollars that went into...............
training these soldiers so they can find sweeties in the pockets of little boys. sigh. And this is the way these "liberated" children have to live and this is how they will remember Americans.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:35 PM
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2. Oh, and that boy looks so dangerous.
Maybe he's carrying a missile in his back pocket. :7
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:43 PM
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3. I think it's out of line to criticize the soldiers here
they're just doing what they're supposed to do. They appear to be doing it as gently as possible.

The soldiers shouldn't have to be there in the first place. That's the issue. It's the people who put those soldiers there who are to blame, not the soldiers themselves.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:53 PM
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4. Who criticized soldiers? In fact, I explicitly stated I would not
do so.

The post has nothing to do with criticizing soldiers, which, of course, makes one wonder why you decided that it did?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:57 PM
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7. Yes, they sdhouldn't be there
that doesn't make them blameless or any less brutal overseers

I suggest you watch the Frontline from several weeks ago, where the news that these servicemen had killed an innocent bystander seemed to roll off of them like they had no conscience at all.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:17 PM
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13. The problem is not what the soldiers are doing.
It is the fact that they need to do it. It shows that we do not belong over there. The fact that young Iraqi children pose a potential threat to trained soldiers says that the Iraqis do not want us there.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:54 PM
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5. Dunno, but I like seeing "synecdoche" in a thread title. n/t
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:55 PM
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6. I like putting it inthread titles
;-)
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:05 PM
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8. How do you feel about litotes, or even, dare I say it
... occupatio??? Far be it from me to include such terms in a post header or body merely for their not inconsiderable snob appeal, yet I hope you are not unimpressed.

Dimsdale? Dimsdale? Dimsdale!!!!
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:09 PM
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11. Snob appeal?
Don't get it. Should I have said "metaphor" because it has less snob appeal? A synecdoche is a synecdoche, seems to me. I didn't realize I was being snobby! Oh well. Now, if I had invoked the homoioteleuton with respect to the speeches of Al Sharpton, we might be in the realm of snobbiness, but synecdoche? Really?
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:23 PM
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14. Pars Pro Tota
I love the term pars pro tota. Unfortunately I don't know anybody I can impress with it.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:07 PM
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9. Go, synecdoche, go!
Yay, synecdoche!!

(Just wanted to see how it feels. :-) )
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:08 PM
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10. I was about to write the same thing.
I like saying it too. Synecdoche. Isn't that near Albany?
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:11 PM
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12. Ask Jack Welsch
;-)
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