But wait, there's more idiocy from Zell Miller--check this out at his site

[mistertrickster]

10/22

Miller to Senate: Let the Majority Prevail
Senator Introduces Bill to End 60-Vote Requirement of Filibuster Rule

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Zell Miller (D-GA) today introduced a bill to abolish Senate Rule XXII, also known as the filibuster rule. He released the following statement concerning the bill:

“We need to get shed of this outrageous rule that allows 41 who oppose something to defeat 59 who favor it. Or, as we saw in today’s vote on whether to go forward with a debate on a class action lawsuit bill, 39 senators blocked the will of 59 senators.

“This rule is not only a waste of time and taxpayer money. It is a flagrant abuse of majority rule, the principle that a republican form of government operates on everywhere – everywhere that is except the United States Senate."

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Hold on just a cotton-picking minute there, Senator DINO. I can think of one other place in which the will of the majority is thwarted by the minority.

Think real hard, will you Senator Back-stabber? The last presidential election . . . more than half a million votes for the "losing" candidate? Is it starting to come back to you, Senator?

I'm sure we can look forward to a bill repealing the Electoral College very soon based on this same line of reasoning . . . or not.

[La_Serpiente]

1. The framers of the Constitution designed

the Senate so that it would be the last place of debate.

And I don't know why Republicans are complaining. They blue-carded I THINK AT LEAST 40 of Clinton's judicial nominees. They don't have a right to talk.

[kodi]

8. oh boy, using "constitutional original intent" versus a conservative......

.....we are thru the looking glass now.

zell miller is not a DINO, he is a dinosaur who understands the nation less then i could ever imagine.

i wionder how bob byrd wil respond to miller's remarks.

[JohnGideon]

9. The Repugs Did Away With Blue Carding

Just as soon as they got "W" in the W.H. they changed the rules to do away with Blue Card'ing which forced the use of the filibuster.

For those who don't know, Blue Card'ing, was a rule that had been in effect for years. It allowed any states two Senators to tell the committee that they were not for a Presidential nominee. Essentially, that did away with that nominees chances. They went away and the committee went on to others. Justice Brown would have been 'Blue Card'ed by Boxer and Feinstein if they could still do it.

[bluestateguy]

2. "republican government"

Does not mean the majority gets what it wants all the time. Witness the last presidential election, Supreme Court rulings during the Warren era and yes, the US Senate.

Republicans made these same arguments when they killed the Clinton economic stimulus in 1993 in a Senate fillibuster, as well as Dr. Henry Foster's nomination to be Surgeon General in 1995.

[asjr]

3. miller

Obviously he is going to do as much damage as possible before he leaves office. He should be tarred and feathered, not only for this, but for impersonating a Democratic lawmaker.

[Valarauko]

4. OK, explain to be, why should we support the filibuster rule?

Just because we have a minority today?

[mistertrickster]

5. The idea is that it's better to have a check on power and not

do something that might even be good, than make it too easy for the powerful to roll over the minority which would inevitably be bad.

Yes, the Repukes stopped a lot of Clinton judges and that was bad, but thank god for our ability to stop the really horrible Estradas and Priscilla Owens out there.

Besides, they always have the option to over-ride, if they can.

Also, the real point is, isn't interesting that Repukes and Zell Miller only worry about this when Bush can't get everything HE wants. Where was Zell's "majority rule" spirit when Republicans were stymying Clinton? Or when the election got stolen by Bushistas?

[w4rma]

6. Explain to me why we shouldn't support the filibuster rule,

even if we had a majority?

Checks and balances. Something Zell Miller (Turncoat-GA) seems to have no clue about.

[NewJerseyDem]

15. The senate needs the filibuster

It is an important way to stop radical change. Even though that change is sometimes liberal and sometimes reactionary it should always be moderated. The senate is built to make sure that extreme change that is suddenly popular doesn't occur. With the filibuster provision, senators are forced to try to make comprimises so that as many senators as possible can support a consensus bill. I think that is good.

However, to balance this resistance to change there is the House of Representatives where all the power is held by the leadership and the majority leadership can push through virtually any bill even if it is radical. The senate then should be forced to think about the consequences of the bill and be more moderate.

I feel that the Senate and its filibuster is extremely important to our democracy.

[kwolf68]

7. Geezus

Miller is pathetic.

[jsw_81]

10. Sickening

This guy is nothing more than a Republican disruptor in our ranks. Screw him, screw conservative Democrats, and screw Georgia.

[dusty64]

11. Yes it looks like Georgia

has joined the ranks of their neighbors like Alabama, but it really makes me wonder how much diebold's machines had to do with this.

[jsw_81]

13. It's very sad

Only a few short years ago everyone was talking about how Georgia (especially Atlanta) had become the progressive capital of the "new south" with CNN, Coca-Cola, the 1996 Olympics etc. Yet today they're electing right-wing Repukes at all levels, supporting the racist Confederate flag, and even trying to put creationism (!) into science classes in public schools.

[Hand]

12. Okay, that 's it...

I nominate Miller to be the first DEMOCRAT to make the Top 10 Conservative Idiots list!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[goobergunch]

14. Seconded. (n/t)

[ComerPerro]

16. Not only that, but what about protecting the rights of the minority

Especially when that "minority" is only by a small percent, or in the case of the presidential election, turns out to be a majority.

Why the hell wasn't the media screaming when the Republicans were blocking Clinton appointees?