BBV: 9th Circuit Court rejects Susan Marie Weber's challenge

[Bushfire]

Critics of the AVC Edge and AccuVote systems have argued in favor of touchscreen systems that produce a paper ballot that can be verified by the voter before the ballot is cast. They contend that the non-voter-verified systems can be manipulated by the use of malicious computer code, that there is a significant risk of lost votes, and that the lack of paper trail makes the system unauditable.

But those alleged inadequacies do not rise to the level of a constitutional violation, Rymer concluded, because “there is no indication that the AVC Edge System is inherently less accurate, or produces a vote count that is inherently less verifiable, than other systems.”

Every election law and regulation, the judge elaborated, has some impact on the right to vote. That impact, she explained, must be weighed against the state’s right to an orderly elections process.

The jurist went on say:

“No balloting system is perfect. Traditional paper ballots, as became evident during the 2000 presidential election, are prone to overvotes, undervotes, ‘hanging chads,’ and other mechanical and human errors that may thwart voter intent....Meanwhile, touchscreen voting systems remedy a number of these problems, albeit at the hypothetical price of vulnerability to programming ‘worms.’ ”

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http://www.metnews.com/articles/webe102903.htm

[lysergik]

1. Just another circumstance,

where untechnical people set forth laws that are unfeasible and do more harm than good. There is more than enough evidence on the net from accredited sources that shows that the current electronic voting systems have flaws, major flaws that could radically affect the way our votes are counted.

Which of course is a threat to everyones constitutional rights. These courts need to stop making judgements before all the facts are presented from a panel of people who can explain the threats in english.

[loudsue]

2. Well THAT sucks!!!

Until we can get millions of people in the streets protesting about this, and get some new national paradigm about making sure NOBODY can steal votes, we're not going to see any fair elections.

This country has been complacent too long, taking our freedom for granted. Relying on "other people" to make it right, or do the right thing by our Democracy, isn't going to work anymore.

Starting with something as basic as our right to vote may be the thing it takes to stop the (intentional corporate/right wing) polarization that has become characteristic of our country.

The whole "divide and conquer" agenda is what has allowed corporations and greed-mongers to get away with their atrocities.

:puke: I'm sick of it!!

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. The 9th Circuit? What's up with that?

Isn't this the same circuit who tried to stop the Swarznegger vote because paper ballots in Democratic voting districts weren't as accurate as touch-screens in Republican districts? Isn't the 9th Circuit known for its liberal opinions?

[Freddie Stubbs]

4. You are correct that the 9th is know for its liberal opinions

They are the court that issued the 'under God' Pledge of Allaigence ruling.

[HFishbine]

5. Can't give up

Havne't read the decision, but the court seems to be saying that there is no evidence that electronic machines are prone to greater vulnerability for error or manipulation. Fine. The court has rejected the argument on lack of evidence, that's a far better rejection than one on legal or constitutional grounds. It simply means more evidence needs to be gathered.