Who predicts Miller will lead "Democrats for Bush" in 2004?

[Some Moran]

I sure do...

I bet it's the only reason he's still a Democrat.

[KoKo]

1. Well it would be like the Freep Pro-War Demostration: 12 People would

would show up for the Democrats for Bush Movement. And those twelve would be in disguise!

[Stuckinthebush]

2. If he did...

He should be ousted from the party without delay. That is unacceptable. No real Democrat would support a Republican for president over a Democrat - especially when that Republican is the worst president the United States has ever witnessed.

[CMT]

3. well he would be the most useful person

akin to John Connally leading "Democrats for Nixon" in '72. Miller being a US Senator will more than likely lead this type of campaign except that we all know he is not a real Democrat.

[diplomats]

4. I think you're on to something

[janekat]

5. Said he will campaign for Bush. DCS Pol. Report thinks he will...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcspoliticalreport/message/3850
SENATOR ZELL MILLER OF GEORGIA, the nation's most prominent
conservative Democrat, said today he will endorse President Bush for
re-election in 2004 and campaign for him if Bush wishes him to.
Miller said Bush is "the right man at the right time" to govern the
country.

-snip-

The senator's endorsement is important for several reasons. With
Miller on board, Bush will have a head start on forming a Democrats
for Bush group in 2004. Such a group would woo crossover votes from
conservative or otherwise disgruntled Democrats next year. In 2000,
an effort by the Bush campaign to form a Democrats for Bush
organization fizzled.

[janekat]

6. Miller: wouldn't "trust" any of the Democratic presidential candidates

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcspoliticalreport/message/3850

The next five years "will determine the kind of world my children and
grandchildren will live in," Miller said in an interview. And he
wouldn't "trust" any of the nine Democratic presidential candidates
with governing during "that crucial period," he said. "This Democrat
will vote for President Bush in 2004."

Miller, who is retiring from the Senate next year, has often
expressed his admiration for Bush. He was a co-sponsor of the
president's tax cuts in 2001 and 2003. The two got to know each other
in the 1990s when both were governors.

[Classical_Liberal]

26. Any man who preferes George Bush world for his children

doesn't care about his children, or is stupid.

[_NorCal_D_]

7. He actually said he would

last night on Fox 'news'.
:(

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[Tinoire]

9. I do and predict he will have plenty of company

This is the inevitable result, logical next step for many in that cancerous DLC.

California Attorney General voted for Scharznegger.

Mississippi Dems (42 of them) have endorsed Barbour, the Republican and posed for photo ops to make sure everyone understood how on board they were.

How many more will follow. It would be extremely naive to believe this is the end of it. How many betrayals do we need before we start fighting this tooth and nail?

[JBolt]

11. Theres more to it than that

California Attorney General voted for Scharznegger.

This statement should be followed up with why. First, he voted no on the recall and then for Arnold. He voted for Arnold because he didnt think Cruz worked hard, was not honest, and could not be trusted.

[sangh0]

13. There might be less than that

Remember, the AG said he voted for Ahnuld. It could be he voted for Cruz, but said he voted Ahnuld in order to appeal to those who voted for him, and so as to distance himself from both Cruz anad Davis, neither of whom are popular

[JBolt]

14. Well you could be right

but if he was only trying to say he voted for Arnold to get in good with the new gov, why then did he go on to flat out call Cruz lazy, a liar, and untrustworthy?

[Tinoire]

16. He also dropped the investigation against the inappropriate behavior

behavior.

The hyposcrisy, for me, is that the day before the election, he was accompanying Davis and still griping about Arnold. Some time earlier it was Lockyer who raged that Arnold needed to be investigated for all the groping and exposed yet the day after the election:

Speaking with reporters after his scheduled remarks, Lockyer said he has no doubts that as a bodybuilder and actor Schwarzenegger groped women over the years, as was alleged in the final days of the campaign. At the same time, Lockyer made clear that didn't dissuade him from supporting the candidate.

"I'm convinced Arnold really didn't understand that he was caught up in this frat boy behavior," he said. "And it was accepted too frequently in that industry. It was part of the culture. And I think he really, genuinely means to not do that. So I give him the benefit of the doubt. But I think it's real."

((I also have a severe problem with this quote by Lockyer about Schwarznegger: ))

"He represented for me what he did for others: hope, change, reform, opportunity, upbeat problem-solving," Lockyer said of the movie star and governor-elect, his surprise confession sending a jolt through a room of about 150 political consultants, academics and journalists gathered at the University of California, Berkeley, for a post-election analysis.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/recall/story/7629545p-8570117c.html

I think everyone here knows how I despised Bustamante but to vote for Schwarznegger who is implicated in the Enron theft of California's money and is a Republican? Right before crucial primaries? No, I don't consider this good at all or even forgivable. If we expect the Greens to abstain from voting we should at least demand that our own do the same. As a California Dem, I can't excuse this...

[fujiyama]

30. That AG is obviously

a fool and a DINO. No real democrat in power would have voted "no" and for Arnold.

That SOB could have voted "no" and kept it at that voting for no one. That was a respectable position that many democrats had made clear.

The party seems to be in absolute, utter chaos. This revelation (the states AG for crying out loud!) and Zell's backstabbing comments shows how difficult '04 will be.

[jonnyblitz]

24. all those Florida DEMs voted for Bush in 2000

I forget how many but way more then who voted for Nader.

[bluedog]

10. hannity-interview with Miller

zell was on hannity last night..didn't catch it all but he was really bashing Dean..said something to the effect *if paul Revere was yelling the British are coming..Dean would tell Revere to be quite that he(Dean) was trying to get some sleep....
He said every member of the Democratic Candidates follow each other and that if Dean rolls up his sleeves with a blue shirt the rest also follow...

The question I have is that Zell Miller is on alot of Democratic Committees.Will the Democratics tell him hes no longer needed or will they just let him finish out his term?

I think he should be stripped of all...and totally ignored and told to join the Republican party..Has anyone heard any response from our Democratic members??

[janekat]

19. He attacked all of them- saying he didn't think ANY of them should be Pres

This wasn't just an attack on one person - but on the entire Party. He especially did single Dean out though - figuring that Dean will be the eventual winner.

[mrgorth]

12. We should all be contacting the DNC about this

and demanding his ouster.

[Zuni]

15. Zell miller is a traitor

He is the worst DINO i have ever seen. We should exchange him for one of the Liberal Republicans, a RINO for a DINO

[xultar]

17. Won't that be a small group

[Zorra]

18. There is no such thing

as a Democrat for *. Anyone that votes for republicans is not a Democrat.

[Some Moran]

28. Careful now...

I've seen many cases where fellow DUers voted Republican once or twice because the Democratic candidate was either extremely corrupt (as well beyond allegations faced by Gary Davis) or known to be more conservative than his/her Republican counterpart. (A couple DUers mentioned that they voted for Lieberman's opponent the first time he ran for Senate. Lieberman is far from the worst, but he is bad on external issues and could do far better, given the state he runs in. CT people are no longer dumb enough to support people like Prescott Bush.)

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. Daschle needs to get rid of Zell Miller

NOW! Separate him from the party and let it be known WHY he is being removed.

[Hippo_Tron]

27. I don't know if you can kick him out of the caucus and still...

Have it be the "democratic caucus". Maybe he can rename it to the "all democrats except Zell Miller caucus". Okay it's a bad idea but I'd be laughing my ass off for quite awhile.

[bluefire2000]

21. I haven't seen any major news source

stating that Miller will support Bush. Newsmax has it. Is this a definitive things, or is it speculation based on his dislike of Dem pres candidates? In any case, I don't get why this guy is a Dem.

[Some Moran]

22. Me neither....

I'm Canadian, and I'm more of a Democrat than that rat bastard.

[jiacinto]

23. Sounds way too much like Democrats for Nixon

nt

[Some Moran]

29. It's actually possible to say a couple of good things about Nixon...

What's the best thing that can be said about Bush: He supports Taiwan (Currently the good guys in the China Strait situation) for the wrong reasons? (Not for its progressive democratic values, but because it's easier for the PNACers to turn into an Asian client state, as it was during the fascist Chinag era, than China is.)

[kentuck]

25. He wants to be in the next Bush Administration....

I hope a Democrat wins so he can retire...He certainly doesn't deserve a job in a Democratic Admin..