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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:47 PM
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Zell singles out Howard Dean for criticism
Clearly Zell doesn't care for any of the Democrats running for president, but he is most clearly critical of Howard Dean, who has made it a staple of his campaign to criticize Bush head on. Here is what Zell says about Dean:

"You know, if some of these folks have been living back to that April night in 1775 when Paul Revere came riding through, saying, 'the British are coming, British are coming'--if Howard Dean was living back then he would have yelled out the window, 'Shut up I'm trying to get some sleep in here.' It's a disgrace..."

Well, Zell what was disgraceful is half-wits such as you giving Bush a free-hand in Iraq. I guess you must include your collegue Robert Bryd, a student of the constitution, among your list of "disgraceful" politicians who opposed the war.

I know Dean is doing something right when Zell Miller attacks him.

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=7334
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:49 PM
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1. Dr. Dean should feel honored and vindicated...
By any criticism from the piece of human excrement.

Zell can go to......
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:00 PM
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12. To paraphrase Dan Quayle...
...Dean should wear Zell's scorn as a badge of honor.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:50 PM
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2. this is actually a wonderful endorsement
:thumbsup:
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:50 PM
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3. Funny thing is that makes me Lean to Dean more!
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:51 PM
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4. You know you must be doing something right
if a bastard like Zell is against you.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:54 PM
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5. Fuck you Zell.
"You know, if Zell Miller had been living back to that April night in 1775 when Paul Revere came riding through, saying, 'the British are coming, British are coming'-- Zell Miller would have welcomed them with open arms and helped the Brits track down the 'traitors'."
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Gingersnap Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:55 PM
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6. WTF? THis is completely incoherent
Zell's comment I mean. I would think that IF he were going to criticize Dean (particularly since Zell is a born again repuke) he's say something about him being an "extremist," but this stupid Paul Revere comment is sort of the opposite.

What an idiot (again I mean Zell).
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:04 PM
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14. I agree
When I opened the thread, I expected to read something about Dean being too liberal, etc., but Zell's Revolutionary War comment makes no sense whatsoever. Huh?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:10 PM
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17. Incoherent Cause Zell's Comments Snipped Out Of Context
Zell is talking about ALL the Democratic Candidates, by the way, not just Dean.

This was posted in a right wing (I'm guessing) source... Arizona School Choice Trust.

"Complaining that the antiwar rhetoric used by
some of the Democratic presidential
candidates is putting the lives of American
soldiers at risk, retiring Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga,
announced Wednesday night that he was
backing President Bush for reelection.

Asked about the harsh attacks directed at the
Bush White House over the Iraq war, Miller
told Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity, "It
makes me ashamed. It's a disgrace for anyone
to talk about -- talk like that in a time of war."

Miller then blasted his fellow Dems, saying,
"Using this war for political advantage can only
give hope to our enemies. And when you do
that, that's going to cost lives."

snip

"You know, if some of these folks have been
living back to that April night in 1775 when
Paul Revere came riding through, saying, 'The
British are coming, British are coming' - if
Howard Dean was living back then he would
have yelled out the window, 'Shut up I'm trying
to get some sleep in here.'"
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:20 PM
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25. And to think
it was just yesterday that CMT was complaining about how some were doing that to Dean
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:23 PM
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26. Odd how when Zell means all the candidates,
he says Howard Dean's name. Must be a Georgia thing.
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Gingersnap Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 03:19 PM
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37. The Paul Revere part is still incoherent to me n/t
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:57 PM
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7. Confederate Hasbeen!
.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:57 PM
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8. He has it backwards, doesn't he?
I mean wouldn't Dean be just the type to throw the tea in the harbor, and Zell would be just the type to say, "God save the King?"
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:33 PM
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29. Dean Would Throw Tea Overboard
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 01:34 PM by cryingshame
If he thought the rebellious image it provided would counteract his "King" friendly record.

I'm sure he would have convened a Colonial Focus Group to find out which way the wind was blowing... just like any other politician.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:57 PM
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9. Confederate Leftover!!!
.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:58 PM
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10. He's clearly a few pieces shy of a place setting
Maybe now she can just shuffle off into the sunset, muttering incoherently.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:59 PM
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11. Who cares what Zell thinks?
I'm surprised he took the time to even say this, considering he'd have to stop kissing Bush's ass to even get the words out. All this means is that Dean must be doing something right.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:02 PM
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13. Zell Miller can eat me!
Quit, retire, or die. I don't care which, just go the fuck away.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:05 PM
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15. Zell can go to Hell! nt
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:09 PM
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16. How is it even possible for Zell Miller to speak
with his tongue so far up Bush's ass?

(sorry for the horrible visual..)

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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:11 PM
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18. Ha ha ha - I love it! Dean is the MAN!
Fucking Zell Miller needs to keep opening his mouth so I can see what a traitorous dem looks like. I get the feeling we'll be seeing more of them soon..
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:12 PM
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19. One word: PROJECTION
Zell is clearly the one who's fallen asleep at the switch, not Howard Dean (nor any of the nominees, with the possible exception of Lieberman).
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:13 PM
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22. Yes, Zell is the bootlicker of King George
These Bushevik assholes do nothing but project their own cowardly bootlicking selves onto us.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:12 PM
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20. Zell, Breaux and Lieberman are the reasons that
Dems like Kerry, Biden and Gephardt had a tough time negotiating for the better IWR. Bush already had the vote for war his way, leaving the negotiators to fight for every change they could get.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:24 PM
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27. Correction -- you should include Gep in the group of enablers
He was one of the ones who undermined the efforts of many Congressional Democrats by standing behind * in the Rose Garden expressing support for the IWR as it was.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:10 PM
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33. Partially....but, my point was that the real DINOs made it
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 02:11 PM by blm
much more difficult for the negotiators. They were ready to go with Bush's war. Now THAT was a real blank check.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:12 PM
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21. Actually, the truth is the OPPOSITE!
Jesus, is Imperial Amerika an Orwellian place.

Actually, Zell, it is YOU who side with the Tories vs the Patriots, as you lick the boots of your appointed Emperor.

George Washington and Ben Franklin would have pissed on you, Tory bastard!
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:17 PM
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23. lol
Say what you want but that statement cracked me up :)
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:19 PM
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24. This Criticism Will Boost Dean in Most Places
But it will certainly hurt him in Georgia, and probably other parts of the South. Sadly, Traitor Zell is still the most popular politician in Georgia.

DTH
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:27 PM
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28. I doubt Zell will even support
the eventual Democratic nominee for Senate in Ga. next year--whoever that may be.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:34 PM
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30. You're Probably Right
I can't wait until this asshole is out on his ass.

DTH
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:06 PM
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32. If this is true, its too bad.....
Maybe we send General Sherman back there to clean things up agan.

Newt, Zell, Chambliss, Barr, what a chamber of horrors.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:29 PM
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40. Where do you get the idea Zell is the most popular pol in GA?

I find that hard to believe. (And I'm in Georgia.)
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:41 PM
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31. I wonder if the DLC put Zell up to this?
In another thread there is an article about the DLC warming Democrats that we move to the center. There have been other articles where the DLC has criticized Dean for being too liberal. Could this be the DLC's way of influencing the Democratic Primary? If we nominate Lieberman will Zell come back and put his endorsement behind the Democrat? :tinfoilhat: Sounds like the DLC are losing influence in our party and are trying any tactic to gain it back.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:34 PM
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36. Probably-With Right Wing Press Promoting Dean
Along with Right wing pundits like Kristol after the last debate... they figured they needed to send Zell out to blow a little smoke over the trail.
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:11 PM
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34. I have 4 words for that repuke:
"Shut the fuck up."
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:17 PM
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35. Republicans Signal Through Zell Their Fear of Howard Dean.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:14 PM
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38. If Dean goes for one deep south state, it should be Georgia
I want to see Zell lay in the bed he just made.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:22 PM
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39. Zell would have shot Paul Revere
and then would have gone to tell the British that the Colonists had been warned that the British were coming.

Probably would have conspired with Benedict Arnold, too.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:20 AM
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42. Yep...
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 01:20 AM by fujiyama
Zell woulda definetely been a Tory singing "God Save the Queen", living comfy on a slave plantation.

This statement is no different that those of Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity propaganda in that it makes liberals out to Anti American traiterous freaks.

Why can't Daschle grow some balls, along with the DLC and the DNC? and simply kick this treacherous scum out of the party caucuses out NOW!
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:30 PM
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41. how many times can I say, fuck you Zell?
it may indeed prove infinite!
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