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Some Moran Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 04:22 PM
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To people who respect Alabama GOP governor Bob Riley...
http://4religious-right.info/introduction.html

Noting that the country is facing a war in Iraq, Alabama Governor Bob Riley declared, "There is another war going on in this country. This one is far more insidious. It’s one that you just can’t go and attack. It’s a war for the absolute soul of this country." Gov. Riley was Speaking to the Alabama Christian Coalition’s "Friends of the Family" Celebration, March 8, 2003. Gov. Riley has asked his Religious Right political allies to enlist in a crusade to restore the Christian character of America. Riley said, “If we are going to save this country, if we are going to reestablish that belief in God, it’s up to us. If we don’t do it, who will?”
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 04:24 PM
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1. So he's doing "Christian' things like...
Slashing funding for public schools and state-run hospitals, huh? No wonder folks in Alabama want to have a "recall" of their own--to chase this idiot from office!:mad:

B-)
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 04:31 PM
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2. I'll give this man credit, because credit is due.
Do a google on his name and Alabama and raising taxes and you'll find he wanted to. And further you'll find he wanted to help the poor based on Christian principles and the good 'christian' folk of Alabamy INCLUDING THE POOR! shot him down hard. Poor folk of Alabama did not want their taxes lowered. The people of Alabama are scary.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 04:34 PM
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3. True, it's the people of Alabama who should be recalled
Even though it was more of a distrust of the tax idea coming from a repub more than anything that shot it down. Maybe Riley should become a Democrat.
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:00 PM
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5. A very good argument that fell on deaf ears in Alabamy.
http://www.law.ua.edu/directory/bio/shamill.html

I've talked to her. She's a very nice informed lady.
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:24 PM
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7. Poor folk of Alabama did not want their taxes lowered?
I disagree. A media campaign pursuaded poor folks that Riley's bill would raise their taxes and they bought that claim because they distrust Republicans to do right by them. That coupled with middle class and rich folks who actually would have seen a small to moderate tax increase killed Riley's effort.

Even if the poor had voted for the tax proposal it would still have been defeated.
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:17 PM
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9. So the poor folk of Alabamy were too stupid to understand
they were being scammed by the Republicans? If your argument were true where's the outrage now? I hear none from the poor folk there. I'd more believe the Voting machines ripped off the Alabamians than your argument.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:25 PM
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10. True, but why let mere facts get in the way of a good bash?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:26 AM
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12. I would suspect very few "poor" actually voted
The turnout numbers were very low and usually it is a rare occasion that a poor person votes anyway. This was an election for the rich and by the rich. IMHO
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 04:35 PM
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4. well he asked those same people of god to raise their taxes to
help their fellow man/woman/children...and their answer was NO.

That sums up what I think of that type of Christian character.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:09 PM
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6. Hold on, now...
Bob Riley never said he wasn't a right wing Christian. We liberals in Alabama never said that is what we liked about Riley. If we had it our way, he wouldn't be in office today.

The thing that many of us respect about Riley is that he went to the mat for the right thing - trying to create a more progressive tax system in the State of Alabama. That was huge for a Republican to try to pull off. He used his religion, and the religion of his constituents to sell the package. Quite frankly, he used the religion the right way - he appealed to what was the moral thing to do in regard to taxes.

We do not support Riley's need to have a culture war, nor will any of us support Riley for governor. Many of us did support what he tried to do and will give credit where credit is due.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:29 AM
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13. using religion is dishonest
as religion is false

Never trust someone that claims an invisible man in the sky controls everything.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:26 PM
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8. While he may spew out rw ideology in some cases
I have respect for him, because he stood up to the libertarian, anti-"socialist" dogma that dominates conservative regions of this country
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Liberator_Rev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:05 AM
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11. He done good!

at least ONCE. From the little I know about this man, he's been wrong on many issues, and Alabamian Democrats may have had good reason not to trust him. But on the ONE ISSUE of his promotion of more tax-paying for the rich in order to provide more services (and less taxes) for the poor, can we all agree HERE at DU that he done good? See more on this issue at

http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/taxandserve

See what Christ might say about the "Christian Coalition" & "Religious Right" imposters.

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