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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:24 PM
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Why Fred Phelps KICKS ASS!!!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 05:36 PM by ThorsteinVeblen
Fred Phelps is Awesome

He is doing more for the cause of the seperation of church and state than any liberal appeal to logic and ideals ever could. He vividly demonstrates why Government cannot sanction religous opinions and highlights the reasons why a monument to the ten commandments on government property is not innocuous.

Are we all sure he is not a good guy in disguise calling attention to the absurdities of conservative thought by taking it to its logical conclusion? Maybe Phelps is a post-post-modern performance-art genius playing a huge practical joke and moving the entire country to the left on gay-rights and religion-in-government issues.

If nothing else Phelps is playing the same role as the KKK asswipes in Burmingham who bombed churches and made mainstream Americans embrace the civil rights struggle. And he is doing it all without killing anyone.

Fucking brilliant.

GO FRED!


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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:28 PM
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1. oh, and whenever moderate conservatives get all hurt about Canada ...
and go on about how the US has always been our friend, so why don't we support Bush's policies ... all I have to do is show them some of Phelps's ravings about how he wants all Canadians to die of AIDS.

And then they fall silent and go weird colours.

Kind of pretty, like the autumn leaves in central/eastern Canada.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:31 PM
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2. you gotta admit, his "monument" plans are exactly what you say
he's claiming that if the 10 commandments are allowed in a public park, so is his bullshit monument. In a way he has a point, and it is EXACTLY why separation works best for us ALL...


plus, when the psycho-christian-patriots try to give us libruls grief, we just play the Phelps card on 'em :evilgrin:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:38 PM
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3. Fred Phelps, Bodhisattva?
That would be a 'no'.

He is a narrowminded patriarch who bubbles over with righteous hate.
I would like nothing better than to turn on the evening news
one day, and see his lifeless body in the street, clutching his
God Hates Fags poster.

I wonder about a world where MLK gets assasinated, RFK gets assasinated, Rabin get assasinated, and Phelps, Sharon, and Robertson get to walk around spewing hate to the masses.

The fastest way to get shot down these days is to preach peace and tolerance.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:42 PM
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4. Except for the wishing him dead part, I agree.
They interviewed his wife on radio and she is just as freaked out as he is.

IMO, it's awfully close to child abuse for them to drag their children around the country to hold hateful signs damning gays, etc. Those folks are as fucked in the head as anyone can possibly get.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:43 PM
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5. Even Jerry Falwell is steering clear of Phelps
Falwell doesn't want, in any way, to be lumped with Fred Phelps. Falwell has (mildly) disapproved of Phelps and his tactics.

Of course, a intolerant, hate filled homophobe is an intolerant, hate filled homophobe. No matter how you slice it.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:43 PM
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9. How about Pat???
The last time I saw any of his odious 700 club, his pals sounded almost as sick with hate as phelps. Has pat ever said anything about phelps???? Sorry this is hard to read, but I categorically REFUSE to capitalize any of their f------g names!!!!!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:12 PM
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6. No, you can tell that book by the cover
He really is a far-right-wing wackjob who needs to be locked up for his own good.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:17 PM
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7. I think your on to something!
I remember when Al Franken stated that the best thing that could have ever happened was crazy Pat Buchanan speaking at the RNC convention and scaring all the sensible people to vote for Clinton...
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PapaClay Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:37 PM
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8. If anything,
he should get more exposure. People like this help our cause far more than they know. I wish he could get major nightly news coverage on a weekly basis. Him and Pat and Jerry are one of the finest circular firing squads ever conceived.

:evilgrin:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:49 PM
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10. Fred Phelps is NOT an undercover good guy.
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 07:57 PM by MuseRider
I have known him and his awful family my whole life and I can tell you honestly they believe this. They do NOT miss a day, it can be -30 with blowing sleet and they are out there, children too. I can tell you he has done a lot to soften this pretty conservative town. I called a friend of mine one day when I noticed his business was being picketed and he told me it was HUGE for his business. People stop in just to tell him they are sorry and end up buying stuff. So, perhaps we are living with this for a good reason although I have wanted to bat him over the head on many occasions.

Edit for spelling
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:49 PM
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11. I Agree.
When the entire statue episode began to raise its ugly head, I said to my companion, this is beautiful. Phelps has completely hijacked the anti-gay leadership from the usual suspects (Roberstons, Dobson, Bauer, etc.) and truly presents the face of hate without the window dressing.

I'm glad to you see it the same way, but this is not a popular view.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:52 PM
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12. Interesting theory. And Dumbya is a DLC plant to bring the GOP down,
maybe...
just kidding...
Phred will always attract a few nutballs no matter what his motivation is and some of them will employ violence. That's bad. And of course as you point out, he will engender a fair amount of revulsion among sane people. That's good. I am not at all sure where the balance point is, though.
:eyes:
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13. Locking
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