Kissinger: We can't leave Iraq like Vietnam cause our enemies will follow

[NNN0LHI]

Kind of makes sense, don't it? Until you ask yourself if staying in Iraq means our enemies will never attack our country? Does anyone think by staying in Iraq that will somehow help us prevent attacks on America? On the contrary. I say the longer we stay in Iraq the number of people willing to attack America increases.

Don

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. Earth to Henry STOP MAKING ENEMIES and we won't have that problem

[Brucey]

2. It's amazing who is considered an expert on

wars and foreign policy. Let me see if I understand this: A nation should invade another nation in order to engage in its fights there instead of on its own territory. OK, Henry, once again your morality module is turned off.

[wuushew]

3. North Vietnam invaded the United States?

So we did loose the war! I knew it!

[arcane1]

4. there is NO reason for any Iraqi to EVER trust the US

nor do I blame them for that feeling :grr:

sadly, the critical thinking skills of the average US consumer are pretty much nonexistant, so this nonsense by Henry the Bloody will likely make perfect sense to most of them

Kind of like:

the Iraqi people are better off now that we took out Saddam

vs

we have lured all the terrorists to Iraq so they will do all of their attacking there, killing Iraqis

:wtf:

[Maple]

5. Well there weren't

any 'enemies' in Iraq to begin with.

[david_vincent]

6. Huh?

"We can't leave Iraq like Vietnam cause our enemies will follow."

Sooooo...


We should stay right there and make it easier for them.

[lostnfound]

7. Earth to Henry: You ARE the enemy

you and your arrogant ilk, so convinced of your narrow worldview that you are ready to plan the slaughter of tens of thousands to force the future to fit your own fantasy. :grr:

[knight_of_the_star]

8. WHO?!

The argument that our enemies will follow if we leave raises a VERY simple question:

WHO is in position to move into Iraq and take control of the country?

WHO has the means to do so?

His argument falls flat on its face. WHAT enemies will move in Henry?

[MnFats]

9. I don't know why ANYONE gives the fuggin' TIME OF DAY...

..to this blood-soaked WAR CRIMINAL!
Kissinger is evil.

[LeahMira]

10. Really?

When we left Vietnam, our American men stopped getting killed.

For those who remember the Vietnam era, isn't this all sort of deja vu? Same old arguments... same old BS.

[frank frankly]

11. Henry, I wish you only the very very very worst

may you end up in jail.

[kodi]

12. that's a pretty long line of dominos, dr. kissinger what falls next, fiji?

"do we stay in or do we get out" is a misdirection, and even here it is the preferred narrative.

get the god damned UN troops in there!

the burden of the peace is distributed and so is the cost.

if the members of the iraq insurrection continue to attack UN troops then it is made clear that they are fighting against an international consensus for order and the rule of law and not merely against empirical expeditions of fancy.

[cliss]

13. that's very strange reasoning.

It makes about as much sense as Paul Babyface Bremer saying, "I'm glad we're fighting them here, rather than back home in the US". According to his reasoning, we take our fight out of the US, to do it in someone else's country.

I guess the analogy would be a bar fight in a saloon in the wild west. The bartender throws the brawlers out, to let them settle the score out in the street.

The flaw in their argument is they are assuming the insurgents to be a finite number. And by their own quotes, they recognize that they themselves are "creating terrorists by the score". Rumsfeld wrote it in his memo last week. They all know this is happening. The muslim world has 1.4 billion adherents. Compare that to the US 339 million. About 4 to 1. Hm.

They're also ignoring the muslims' anger at what is happening. If I had half my family killed needlessly by an invading force, guess what I would be doing?

[NNN0LHI]

14. CNN Transcript of Kissinger

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0310/30/wbr.00.html

<snip>BLITZER: Dr. Kissinger, a lot of people, at least critics, are starting to make comparisons to Vietnam, an era you lived through. Is there a potential here of Iraq turning out to be another Vietnam?

KISSINGER: There is one important thing to remember. In Vietnam, by leaving, we could leave our enemies behind there. And the impact was indirect in the perception of us and other countries.

In Iraq, we cannot leave our enemies behind. They will follow us and they will follow our allies. And if we leave Iraq, we are going to radicalize the whole Middle East and increase the danger of terrorism. I hope that the people in our domestic debate understand that we cannot possibly afford a repetition of the Vietnam crisis and that some position will be found in which, as a united people, we go through this very difficult period.

BLITZER: Dr. Henry Kissinger, as usual, thank you very much for joining us. Always good to have you on our program.

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[diamond14]

15. kissinger is a blood-soaked war criminal...he should be in the Haig

he can barely leave the USA, since so many countries have warrants out for his arrest...

and of course, bush* tried to get kissinger to cover up his 9/11 crimes...luckily WE THE PEOPLE rose up and cut that off, but IMO, kissinger is still advising on the cover-up, only behind the scenes...

[nolabels]

18. That would be my bet also.

I am sure most DUers know a lot about that evil dude. But it's never too late to learn more. The double dealing with the Johnson Adminstration and Nixon's Campaign was just amazing. The guy had his ticket marked for an inside track for either side.

Kissinger & BCCI spells BUSH & 9-11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=377323

Is Henry Kissinger a war criminal, fascist or just misunderstood
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=345935

[9215]

16. That SOB is the biggest pre-cursor of violence

embodied in one person this earth has!

Read: "The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by Hitchens. There is no end to that guys vileness. He is also responsible for the unneccessary deaths of 20,000 US GI's in Nam' for derailing the 68' peace talks. :grr:

[ConsAreLiars]

17. Yup, a war criminal

being cited as an expert analyst. The architect of a policy that slaughtered millions and won nothing but revulsion around the world now being touted as an expert. The only TV appearance he has earned is a public beheading.