Take the JFK Assassination Quiz...

[TruthIsAll]

The JFK Assassination Quiz

1. The first NYT headline article reported that JFK was hit in the front of the throat. (T/F)

2. Oswald had a poor marksmanship rating in the marines (T/F)

3. Nixon, who was in Dallas attending a Pepsi convention, at first claimed he wasn't sure of his whereabouts on 11/22/63 (T/F)

4. Poppy Bush has never been able to account for his whereabouts on 11/22/63 (T/F)

5. E. Howard Hunt was proven to be a liar in court in claiming that he was not in Dallas on 11/22/63 (T/F)

6. The original JFK parade route was changed to go through Dealey Plaza. (T/F)

7. No one has ever been able to duplicate the shooting "performance" of Oswald (three hits in 5.6 seconds) at Dealey Plaza, even after the tree blocking his view was cut down (T/F).

8. The murder weapon was first declared to be a German Mauser, but then it was changed to an Italian Mannlicher Carcano (T/F).

9. The Oswald rifle was considered defective, with a poorly aligned scope (T/F)

10. There is no taped recording or transcript of Oswald's interrogation by the Dallas police (T/F).

11. Oswald maintained he was a "just a patsy", proclaimed he was innocent and asked for a lawyer (T/F).

12. Lyndon Johnson , just before he died, claimed he never believed the Warren Commission report (T/F)

13. Richard Nixon was quoted as saying the Warren Report was the greatest fiction ever perpetrated (T/F).

14. The magic bullet, which supposedly passed through JFK and meandered through Connally's wrist and thigh, was found in pristine condition, having fewer grains of metal missing than grains left in Connally's hand and side. (T/F)

15. Connally himself claimed that he was NOT hit by the same bullet that hit JFK, because he heard the shot and was was wounded AFTER he turned to see JFK hit (T/F).

16. Kennedy's brain was stolen (T/F) from the archives. (T/F)

17. JFK declared his intent to pull out of Vietnam after he was re-elected in 1964 (T/F).

18. The Zapruder film clearly shows JFK falling backward and getting hit in the front just above the right ear. (T/F)

19. The House Select Committee on Assassinations declared that the JFK murder was a conspiracy, primarily because acoustical evidence proved there were at least 4 shots fired (T/F).

20. Jack Ruby claimed that his original stated reason for killing Oswald so that Ms. Kennedy would not have to endure a trial was a lie (T/F)

21. Ruby asked the Warren Commission to fly him to Washington, D.C. so that he could testify freely, which he felt he could not do in Dallas (T/F).

22. The Army was ordered to "stand-down" in Dallas on 11/22/63. (T/F)

23. Oswald was found calmly sipping a Coke by the Dallas police on the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository within a minute of the shots being fired. (T/F).

24. Although scores of witnesses claimed to have seen and heard shots coming from the front (Grassy Knoll) the Warren Commission never interviewed these witnesses, and took the word of a single witness that shots were from behind on the 6th floor of the TSBD (T/F).

25. There is incontrovertible evidence that the autopsy photos were "touched-up" to hide the true nature of the head wounds (T/F).

26. The magic bullet theory is the lynchpin of the Warren Commission finding that three bullets only were fired and Oswald acted alone (T/F)

27. The (1) physical evidence (grains of metal missing from the "magic bullet"), (2) the testimony of Gov. Connally, and (3) the acoustic evidence (HSCA), prove that at least 4 bullets were fired. This destroys the Warren Theory Magic Bullet Theory concocted by Arlen Spector, the senator from Pennsylvania (T/F).

I could go on and on. Now, take the quiz. And tell me you still believe Oswald did it.

[dflprincess]

1. All true

But I didn't believe Oswald did it before I took the quiz.

[jimshoes]

2. All true

The only one I couldn't quite recall if the lunchroom was on the first or second floor. (Question 23)

[KFC]

3. 7, 14, and 18 are definitely false

But I don't know about the others.

Boy, the upcoming ABC documentary seems to have rubbed some conspiracy groupies the wrong way.

[TruthIsAll]

5. Prove it... n/t

And it is obvious you know squat about the facts. You say so yourself, cause you don't know about the others.

Read a book, coincidence freak..

[KFC]

8. No, I am not a Kennedy Assassination Geek

I did not come across any Kennedy Assassination information in the last book I read (Pop on Top), but I do know the basics.

It was an easy shot that has been reproduced.

A head shot (with a high-velocity bullet) from the rear causes the head to go backwards, not forwards.

The "magic bullet" was not in pristine shape when recovered.

You can find backup for all of this in that thread about Oswald's picture.

I'll see you at the next Kennedy Assassination Jamboree. I'm sure you'll be the one with the Spock ears.

[TruthIsAll]

10. Do you expect anyone to take you seriously after that Bushit?

Sorry, but I just can't help it.

You are totally clueless.

[KFC]

12. Didn't mean to stomp on your religion

You don't need facts to get in the way of your beliefs. Now go read a Kennedy Assassination book. You'll fell better.

Good night now!

[9215]

7. KFC, has Oswald's feat of marksmanship

ever been duplicated?

I've heard it wasn't.

[9215]

15. I ask again. n/t

[PAMod]

16. CBS duplicated it for a TV special

Not only that, but the first shot was fired earlier than what was initially thought, so the "feat" is less impossible than what some might have you believe.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. The feat was clearly impossible using the rifle that the WC claimed...

...was the murder weapon. Several facts eliminate the Mannlicher-Carcano from being the JFK murder weapon:

1) The bolt-action on the Mannlicher-Carcano was so tight that it tended to stick...this slowed down the firing process between shots.

2) The trigger when squeezed produced a normal trigger-pull until it unpredictably became a hair trigger at the last possible second...this undoubtedly had an effect on the accuracy of the weapon as it was prone to fire when the shooter was not yet ready.

3) The scope on the rifle as it was initially found could not be used for its intended purpose because it was loose and not properly aligned.

4) Additionally, the FBI weapons experts refused to test-fire the rifle until repairs were made to the weapon.

5) The WC used marksmen that test-fired at stationary targets and used a 30-foot tower instead of the 60 feet necessary to simulate the height of the sniper's nest.

6) The 1967 CBS News tests, conducted under more accurate conditions, still resulted in only four of the eleven marksmen being able to score two hits out of three. See #7 below.

7) Oswald was at best a mediocre shot. He qualified at the lowest possible level of marksmanship on the USMC rifle range.

[PAMod]

26. I have a theory about that...

Lee Oswald was assigned the task of (by whom, I have no idea) bringing a weapon into the building (thus the curtain rods, etc.) He was probably not the gunman, nor, perhaps, was his rifle used in the actual shooting.

There were certainly, however, shots fired from the TSBD. To claim otherwise is to ignore or dispute the overwhelming majority of eye witnesses.

Anyway, back to my theory:

Because he brought his rifle to the building, Oswald is obviously aware of the crime, and only realizes at the latest possible moment, that he is a patsy for the actual shooter. That would explain his escape, shoot-out with Tippitt, etc. Odd behavior, you must admit, for an innocent by-stander.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

35. The rifle was far too long to have been carried into the building as...

...was claimed by the WC. The WC claimed that the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle had been broken down and placed in a bag fashioned from the brown wrapping paper found in the Texas School Book Depository. They additionally claimed that the bag was carried into the TSBD by Oswald cupping one end of the bag with one hand while the other end fit under his armpit.

Sorry, but even when the rifle was broken down, it could NOT be carried that way because one of the two pieces was far too long to have rested in one of Oswald's hands and fit under his armpit. This information is found in the WC exhibits and documents from which the final report was drawn.

As to your claim that the overwhelming number of witnesses stated that the shots came from the TSBD, perhaps you would have been better-served to have done some research before making that kind of comment. Take a look at this website where the witnesses are broken down by what they actually said in their eyewitness testimony, not what they've been reported to have said by WC apologists:

216 Witnesses to the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy
Sorted by Source of Shots
<http://www.history-matters.com/analysis/Witness/Sort216Witness.htm>

"216 Witnesses
52 Knoll
48 Depository
5 Knoll & Depository
4 Elsewhere
37 Could Not Tell
70 Not Asked"

...or try this...

Issue #1 "Case Closed or Posner Exposed?"
<http://www.assassinationweb.com/shack1b.htm>

"...but is apparently unaware of Craig Ciccone's catalog of 326 witnesses, of whom 90 reported shots from the knoll, 46 from the Depository, and 6 from both. (141)"

Additionally, no photograph or piece of film from that time shows Oswald in the 6th floor corner window of the TSBD at the time of the shooting. What we do have is very vaguely worded "testimony" in the WC that was used by the WC to further nail down a case against Oswald. There is, however, a photograph showing Oswald out front of the TSBD watching the motorcade when the shooting begins. Claims have been made to indicate a fellow by the name of Lovelady was standing at that location, but Oswald was later arrested wearing the same shirt as shown in the photo. Lovelady was wearing a shirt with a different pattern altogether.

I personally believe a shot, or shots, were fired from behind the Presidential limo, but more likely originated from the Dal-Tex Building. The Dal-Tex Building was located on the corner of Houston and Elm Streets, across the street from the TSBD. A shooter firing from the third floor of this building would have had a better view down Elm Street unobstructed by trees. A shot hitting the back of JFK's head from the TSBD would have had a better chance of going on and striking Mrs. Connally rather than Gov. Connally.

But, I slso believe, based on the photographic evidence that has been made available over the last few decades that there was at least one shot fired from the vicinity of the Grassy Knoll. To claim otherwise is to ignore or dispute the overwhelming majority of eye witnesses as the WC tried to do.

[PAMod]

37. Whoa Sparky, don't assume I haven't done the research...

just because we don't necessarily agree. I wish I had the time & money back that I invested in this subject. I own practically every best-selling book on the subject - I bought Robert Sam Anson's book with my Easter money when I was 9!

There are web-sites that correct the attributed direction for many of the 37 "could not tell" witnesses found on the History-matters site.

The fact is the majority, even if not overwhelming, of the witnesses point to the TSBD, and some of the conspiracy theorists completely dismiss their testimony (I'm not saying you dismiss it, either).

I don't discount a shot from the front, except to say that it missed, and the evidence for that shot is a lot shakier than the evidence for the rear shots. Many people who embrace the Grassy Knoll shot dismiss the TSBD shot. That is ridiculous!

I have my doubts about the Dal-Tex building because of the low trajactory - where did the bullet's go? Where is the damage to the car? But it is certainly a posibility - even the county courthouse is a possibility.

Well, gotta go.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

42. "Where is the damage to the car"??? You just proved you haven't...

...done as much research on this subject as you claim you have.

CE349
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...see the circular dent in the windshield frame? Where did that come from? That dent is not seen in photos taken from the rear of JFK's limo as it left the airport. Here's a blow-up of the same photo:

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...and how about this crack in the windshield that some witnesses claimed to be a through-and-through bullet hole?:

CE350
<>

You also stated the following:

"The fact is the majority, even if not overwhelming, of the witnesses point to the TSBD...".

Oh, really??? You're not even close to the truth of the matter. And then you ran away without posting your evidence. Interesting.

And then you stated:

"I don't discount a shot from the front, except to say that it missed".

The Zapruder film clearly shows an impact on the right-front of JFK's skull which drives JFK back and to the left. The hole in the front of JFK's neck was clearly described as an entry wound by medical personnel in Dallas before the tracheotomy obsured it. The nicks in JFK's tie were from the scalpel used to cut it away, not from an exiting bullet as the WC would have you believe. The large defect in the rear of JFK's skull was described accurately by nearly 40 medical personnel at Dallas and Bethesda as an EXIT wound...you don't get that kind of wound from anyone firing from the rear or right-rear of JFK's limo.

Hey, don't run away...come back and prove the case you claim to have.

[BigBigBear]

4. almost all true

10. There was talk that the widow of one of the Dallas cops was holding onto notes or tape recordings. DOn't know if that's true. My suspicion is that, had Oswald said something provably explosive in those tapes or documents, they'd have been destroyed by now.

17. I don't know that Kennedy ever DECLARED his intention to withdraw from Vietnam - it's been the subject of considerable speculation.

20. I haven't seen any atributable quotes from Ruby on this. He DID claim higher ups were involved...but remember, he was trying to get a new trial and beat a death sentence.

23. I believe Marion Baker encountered Oswald 85-90 seconds after the last shot...not 60. Still an almost unduplicatable feat, and decidedly inexplicable behavior from a man who just plugged the leader of the free world.

16. I believe that was resolved: Bobby had the brain quietly removed as the family did not want it as a ghoulish reminder of the assasination.

Pretty much dead-on with the rest, though.

[TruthIsAll]

6. Here goes..

10. There was talk that the widow of one of the Dallas cops was holding onto notes or tape recordings. DOn't know if that's true. My suspicion is that, had Oswald said something provably explosive in those tapes or documents, they'd have been destroyed by now.
Ans. No evidence of that. All facts say otherwise.

17. I don't know that Kennedy ever DECLARED his intention to withdraw from Vietnam - it's been the subject of considerable speculation.
Ans. He never declared it, but said as much to his intimate aides.

20. I haven't seen any atributable quotes from Ruby on this. He DID claim higher ups were involved...but remember, he was trying to get a new trial and beat a death sentence.
Ans. He wanted to tell them the truth. They wouldn't let him.

23. I believe Marion Baker encountered Oswald 85-90 seconds after the last shot...not 60. Still an almost unduplicatable feat, and decidedly inexplicable behavior from a man who just plugged the leader of the free world.
Ans. Ok, maybe it was more than a minute.

16. I believe that was resolved: Bobby had the brain quietly removed as the family did not want it as a ghoulish reminder of the assasination.
Ans. That is an urban legend. If anything, he would want it seen as proof of a conspiracy, which he knew it was.

[BigBigBear]

14. my last response

10. There was talk that the widow of one of the Dallas cops was holding onto notes or tape recordings. DOn't know if that's true. My suspicion is that, had Oswald said something provably explosive in those tapes or documents, they'd have been destroyed by now.
Ans. No evidence of that. All facts say otherwise.

*** "Facts" can't prove a negative, that such documentation doesn't exist. Curry said he didn't keep notes, but he's not the only guy who spent time with Oswald. I think it would be more accurate to say, "No notes or recordings have ever surfaced..."

17. I don't know that Kennedy ever DECLARED his intention to withdraw from Vietnam - it's been the subject of considerable speculation.
Ans. He never declared it, but said as much to his intimate aides.

*** To the extent that people have suggested he was killed BECAUSE he intended to withdraw from Vietnam (Stone's movie has clearly suggested this), I haven't been persuaded that his intentions were sufficiently expressed to sustain that argument.

20. I haven't seen any atributable quotes from Ruby on this. He DID claim higher ups were involved...but remember, he was trying to get a new trial and beat a death sentence.
Ans. He wanted to tell them the truth. They wouldn't let him.

*** He also wanted to save his behind. We attribute shady underworld connections and aspirations to the guy when it comes to Ruby's Oswald associations and Mafia-hitman conspiracies, then suddenly attribute altruistic designs about revealing the true conspiracy once he's in prison. I agree he wanted to tell the Warren Commission something - whether or not it would have been "the truth", having already had an opportunity to tell it once, leaves me skeptical. And why would he want to go to Washington to implicate the government?

23. I believe Marion Baker encountered Oswald 85-90 seconds after the last shot...not 60. Still an almost unduplicatable feat, and decidedly inexplicable behavior from a man who just plugged the leader of the free world.
Ans. Ok, maybe it was more than a minute.

*** "If so, then how is it he was seen by the building manager and a pistol-waving police officer well under ninety seconds afterwards on the SECOND floor, standing in the lunchroom with a Coke in his hand, giving every appearance of being perfectly calm and relaxed?
"
http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id184.htm

16. I believe that was resolved: Bobby had the brain quietly removed as the family did not want it as a ghoulish reminder of the assasination.
Ans. That is an urban legend. If anything, he would want it seen as proof of a conspiracy, which he knew it was.

***Sorry, I never bit at the 'missing brain' component here. Unless it was hermetically sealed, it probably would have useless as evidence within a few months after the assasination anyway. Also, assuming Burkly had sectioned it and examined it thoroughly (I believe he said he did), trajectory and debris patterns would have likely been obscured for future research. And yes, I've read Lifton's book.

Actually, I've read ~15 books on the assasination myself - over time, I've come to believe that the conspiracy community has deeply sabotaged its own cause by embracing some sloppy rhetoric and endorsing every questionable aspect of the event as proof of a conspiracy. This is how a hack and a liar like Posner could stroll in and turn the tables in the mainstream media.

Frankly...I believe Oswald was set up. I'm persuaded that it was the mafia and rogue intelligence agencies. But I don't need to buy everything to believe that.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. On #17, LBJ signed NSAM 273 just four days after JFK's murder...

NSAM 273
<http://www.jfklancer.com/NSAM273.html>

This NSAM, signed by LBJ on November 26, 1963, was a clear escalation of the "support" outlined in JFK's NSAM 263, signed on October 11, 1963.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. On #17, NSAM 263 is pretty clear on this topic...

NSAM 263
<http://www.jfklancer.com/NSAM263.html>

This NSAM was signed by JFK on October 11, 1963. The NSAM directs the withdrawal of the first 1000 American troops by the end of 1963.

Although JFK's stated public policy was to support the Republic of South Vietnam in its fight against the communist-backed insurgents, he never specified what that support should be. IMHO, the fact that he wanted to pull 1000 troops out of Vietnam by the end of 1963 indicates that his intention was to eventually withdraw all U. S. troops from that country. Withdrawing the troops before the election would have been political suicide...waiting until after the election was his best option.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

9. 16.

Ever read "Best Evidence?" Thoughts?


How do you lose the President's brain? :shrug:

[TruthIsAll]

11. Check out both of these facts. Yes, I have read "Best Evidence" n/t

...

[reprobate]

17. How do you lose the President's brain?

Ask George of the Bungle.

[TruthIsAll]

13. For the West Coast after dinner crowd...

...

[Minstrel Boy]

18. It makes me want to weep that,

after 40 years, this is still a subject of debate.

We're not "deluded." We're not "true believers." We're not assassination "buffs." The decades of mendacity and character assassination can't efface the reality of a coup d'etat from the American soul.

The evidence is overwhelming that there was a conspiracy and cover-up, and that it is ongoing. And the evidence extends far beyond the forensics of Dealey Plaza.

At 12:29, one minute before the killing, Dallas Police radio Channel One, reserved for officers participating in the security of Kennedy, went dead.

At 12:33, the telephone system in Washington DC breaks down, and isn't restored for an hour.

Witnesses who raced up the grassy knoll were waved away by men identifying themselves as secret service agents, though none were supposedly there.

Film shot pointing towards the knoll at the time of the headshot was conviscated by a man identifying himself as FBI, and vanishes from history.

And on, and on, and on the hell on...

That some Americans - Democrats, even - would shrug off the murder of their president as little more than shit happens appalls me, though he wasn't my president, and it's not my country.

[SiobhanClancy]

41. It makes me want to weep,too

I'm always shocked when I meet someone who does not believe there was (and is)a conspiracy about the Kennedy assassination. Almost as bad are the ones who just don't care. A President...a man who left behind two small children..was murdered,it was and is being covered up by our government,and people don't care? It's an outrage,in more ways than one.

[Noordam]

22. Was that Harvey or Lee MMMmmm

To be on sale within a couple weeks. A friend of mine has been working on this project for about a year. He did the CD Rom part.

[The White Rose]

24. Now that's a take I hadn't come across!

Interesting.

[Minstrel Boy]

25. I recently read Armstrong's "Harvey and Lee" essays

in Probe's anthology The Assassinations. I began them with a "yeah, right" attitude, but I can't tell you how many times my jaw dropped at what I read, and at the scope of the supporting research. It's irrefutable that Oswald was being impersonated, and much earlier than we'd suspected.

Headspinning stuff.

[MrPrax]

23. 18 good old Abraham

I have known at least two 'oh that's a conspiracy theory, just ignore that druggie nonsense' type --see the JFK film and report that the Zapruder film in '70mm' glory...that turned their head around (no pun intented)...
And started down that slippery slope...
You know...
Well if they lied about that, what else did they lie about...
That's my vote...hard to explain away and ergo surpressed for so long (yes of course suppressed to spare the feelings of the Kennedy family...yes, yes)

[PAMod]

27. A couple of points regarding #18 & #26

The Zapruder Film CLEARLY shows in frames 313 - 316, a shot striking President Kennedy's head from the rear and exiting out the front/top/right portion of his head.

His head jerks forward and then violently jerks backwards as a huge brain/bone/blood corona sprays forward onto the other passengers of the car. You can see NO damage to the rear of the head; the only visible damage is in the top/front. If you have access to a clear copy of the film, you can actually see a large flap of skin/skull hanging down over his right temple. That is an exit wound.

Why is President Kennedy pushed backwards? Maybe physics (jet-effect) or maybe a neurospasm.

Regarding the "magic bullet" - though it seems improbable, it is possible. Contrary to what I've seen said and heard over the years, the two victims are lined up pretty well for the "magic bullet" to have done its thing. In fact, if you watch the Zapruder film slowed down, you can "see" the President & Governor moving in tandem reacting to the same bullet.

I have no explanation to the diparity to the amount of lead missing from the bullet to the amount of lead removed from Governor Connally's wrist, other than to say that a mistake may have been made when weighing the pieces from the wrist. I know one thing though, that bullet, by the time it hits the wrist, would have been moving MUCH slower than when it hit the President in the upper back, and then passed through the Governor's chest.

Also, judging by the Governor's entrance would behind his right armpit, the bullet that hit him was toppling end over end, which is consistent with a bullet that hit something else first.

I am not discounting the possibility/probability of a conspiracy, just pointing out how I see #18 & #26.

[BigBigBigBear]

28. The film

is at odds with what McClelland, Crenshaw and other ER docs saw at Parkland though. They described an exit wound ('avulsion') in the right back of JFK's head.

As far as the magic bullet - it's not just the lead debris that's troubling, it's also the assertion that the bullet had been significant reduced in velocity when it hit Connally, yet still fast enough to break his wrist (a very dense bone), exit the arm and imbed itself in his thigh.

Also - if you examine the film, you'll see Kennedy has already reacted to his throat wound well before Connally displays reaction from being hit. In fact, he's still holding his hat many frames after Kenedy's reaction in the same hand whose wrist was smashed by the Kennedy throat bullet.

No way it was the same bullet.

[PAMod]

29. Connally reportedly held onto his hat all the way to the hospital.

Now that's a real Texan!

Seriously though,

You have to watch the film in motion to see the "flow" of their reactions - when President Kennedy's arms jerk upwards and Connally shoulder is pushed down. On a clear copy of the film (I suggest "Image Of An Assassination" which is on DVD - copied frame by frame from the original, including the images between the film sprocket holes), you can actually see Connally's jacket lapel pop up (I don't know off-hand what frame #, but I can find out), eliminating any guesswork as to when he was hit - he continues to hold onto the hat, but that may very well be because he has lost the ability to let go of it by the damge to his wristbone.

Anyway it is almost like watching a wave move - first Kennedy, then Connally.

I'm not an expert on ballistics, but I have learned that a bullet, even without a direct strike, can cause damage to bones and tissue, so it is possible that it happened with one bullet.

Yes way.

[Minstrel Boy]

30. Bullets can take weird trajectories, but

this virtually undamaged bullet, unmarred by blood or tissue, found on a Parkland stretcher,



did not do this:

[PAMod]

31. You have to look at the bullet from the end to see the damage

and that ridiculous diagram of the two men does not, in any way, accurately represent the positioning of President Kennedy and Governor Connally in the Lincoln.

Governor Connally's seat was a little stadium-size seat several inches below the Presiden't bench. Also, his seat was several inches inward from the edge of the car, while the President sat with his arm hanging over the top of the side.

The entry wound in the President's back was higher than the markings on this diagram. The shirt & coat was damaged 5" below the collar because they were bunched up from sitting in the car.

I'm not saying the bullet did all of this damage, just that it is NOT impossible, as so many would try to assert.

[Minstrel Boy]

32. Actually, the bullet couldn't have done any damage, because

it wasn't even found on Connally's stretcher. It was found on another one entirely.

Here's Warren Commission testimony on the discovery of the bullet at the hospital. Try as Spector does, the man who found it links it to an unrelated stretcher:

http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/collections/assassinations/jfk/ce399.htm

That the bullet is, however, linked to Oswald's gun, and Ruby was seen at the hospital before it was found, builds a powerful case that it was planted to frame Oswald.

[Greyskye]

33. Thanks for that link!

I never knew any of that! Very enlightening...

[PAMod]

34. I've read that testimony before and it is herky-jerky and...

Specter does lead witnesses.

However, if that bullet wasn't from Connally's stretcher, what happened to the bullet that did fall out of Connally's leg? It wasn't still in his leg - it wasn't still in his pants, either.

It could have been a plant, I suppose, since the its evidence chain is shaky. Did the planter steal the real bullet? I'm afraid there are more questions than answers.

I'm not saying that there was no conspiracy, I'm not even saying that the "magic bullet" is gospel truth, but I can't stand when someone says that something is impossible when it is NOT impossible.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

36. You're going to have to explain what you mean by...

...the bullet that fell out of Connally's leg. What bullet are you talking about?

Here is a list of Connally's wounds as described by the WC:

TORSO:

"A bullet entered the back of the Governor's chest to the left of his right armpit."

"This bullet struck the fifth rib and shattered it, actually stripping away about 10 cm. of bone starting immediately below the armpit (4H105; 6H86)."

"The right lung was severely lacerated (6H88)."

"The bullet exited from the anterior chest, causing a large sucking wound about 5 cm. in diameter just below the right nipple (6H85)."

WRIST:

"There was an atypical entrance wound on the dorsal (back of the hand) side of the Governor's wrist and an atypical exit wound on the volar (palm) side (6H07; R93)."

"The radius (wrist bone) had been broken into about seven or eight pieces from the passage of the bullet (4H120)."

THIGH:

"There was a 1 cm. puncture wound located on the Governor's left thigh some five to six inches above the knee (R93). X rays revealed a small metallic fragment embedded in the left thigh bone, the femur (6H106). This fragment was not surgically removed and still remains in Mr. Connally's femur."

Again, what bullet are you discussing? What bullet fell out of Connally's leg?

There's another problem with the official explanation. Once the "Magic Bullet" had exited just below Connally's right nipple, how did the bullet change direction to the right and then back to the left to strike Connally's right wrist? This wrist is clearly seen in the Zapruder film because Connally is holding his hat in his right hand with the back of his right hand facing the crowd on the right side of the limo. In fact, Connally is STILL holding his hat quite a few frames past the point when he should have been hit by the so-called "Magic Bullet".

I'm of the opinion based on the testimony, photographs and video that Connally was struck by TWO bullets...one that plowed through his body shearing off a fragment that lodged in his thigh, and another bullet that later struck him in the wrist. If Oswald fired his weapon at all that day, I suspect he may have been responsible for Connally's wrist wound.

[PAMod]

38. I guess you mean after the head shot?

That's a possibility, though I think the shooting was probably over at that point.

The idea of the bullet coming from the thigh wound is that the it created the wound and fell out, since the amount of lead remaining in the wound was not sufficient to cause the wound.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

43. How do you know how much lead was left in Connally's thigh wound?...

How big of a wound did Connally have in his thigh? He never had the fragment taken out so that it could be examined, and a request to have it removed at his autopsy was refused. Why do you think that was done?

Surely you're not seriously claiming that the so-called "Arlen Specter Pristine Magic Bullet" caused all of the wounds to both men and also changed directions in mid-air at least four times, are you? You do know that bullet fragments were removed from Connally's torso wound when it shattered a rib and from where it supposedly broke his right wrist, don't you?

And how is it that Connally managed to hang on to his hat for quite a few frames after his right wrist was supposedly badly damaged? And how come JFK and Connally do not react at the same time to what was supposedly the same simultaneous gunshot wound?

[Minstrel Boy]

39. There were a number of people at the scene

identifying themselves as FBI agents, retrieving bullets, though the bullets and the reputed agents were never seen again. I have at least one photo, published in a Dallas paper, of an "agent" picking up a bullet which was never catalogued, and the "agent" never identified.

And, of course, that Kennedy's car was immediately cleansed instead of being preserved as evidence meant that if any bullet or bullet fragments remained in the car they were lost.

[TruthIsAll]

40. ABC ...kick

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[rman]

44. quoting JFK:

"The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
(a few days before the assasination)

[JackRiddler]

45. please cite this quote, thank you...

And otherwise the answer is True on all of them, based on my research, except for #18 - this is not clear-cut, it looks like the brains be coming out the front and the head is snapping forward in the very first frame of the shot. I prefer the autopsy photo evidence on this, in which you see the brains hanging out the back. Who says they didn't "fix" the Zapruder film during the years of storage?

[rman]

46. the quote, #18

Columbia University, ten days before his assassination
http://www.transglobalpublishing.com/JFK.htm
http://www.digitaltermpapers.com/members/American_History/index3.shtml
(JFK then was in the process of replacing Federal Reserve Notes by US notes.)
there's some debate whether or not he actually said it
http://www.uhuh.com/money/ewartmon.htm

The quote itself does not serve as proof wrt the assasination. Though it may indicate motive.

Indeed #18 is debatable.
If the bullet came from behind-right and struck his head on the front-right side, then the subsequent 'explosion' of tissue could throw the head to the back/left, which appears to be what happens on the Zapruder film. Though it raises the question how some of the tissue ended up on the back hood of the car.
Still it leaves 26 items that are hardly debatable.