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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:17 AM Original message |
Courts are sexist against men -- this must be changed! |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oh, yes |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. So black and Hispanic men aren't victimized as well? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
146. On the contrary... minority males are hit by this even harder by this |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:44 PM Response to Reply #146 |
190. Truly sad and unfair to fathers and children! |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:10 PM Response to Reply #146 |
257. "I read an account" |
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Clark Can WIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:52 PM Response to Reply #146 |
275. If she is buying groceries, keeping the lights on, putting gas in |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
301. What does being white have to do with anything? |
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J B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. If the alternative is destroying motherhood, |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Oh, so it's OK to destroy fatherhood... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I'm not talking about deadbeat dads. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. That is all your opinion, not fact |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
151. Here is an example going on right now.... |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:46 PM Response to Reply #151 |
191. It seems some judges would grant Andrea Yates custody of... |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. More anecdotal evidence, whereas |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. So award men custody at least 50% of the time. |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
99. So reward financial discrimination against women........ |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
115. Sorry, |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
149. And this is because child custody laws and divorce laws are old |
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Maine Mary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:57 PM Response to Reply #149 |
202. This arguement reminds me of the "liberal media" theory. |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
63. I don't know what state you live in, but I have never heard of the |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:40 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. Your ex sounds like a first class jerk... |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
81. And sadly that is the norm rather than the exception |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:51 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Well said |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:53 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Someone's gotta say what's real sometimes. Doesn't make me popular, |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:16 AM Response to Reply #123 |
129. Or they call you a ....... *gasp* ......... |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:22 PM Response to Reply #123 |
175. that may be you truth and i fell really sorry for you |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:07 PM Response to Reply #175 |
195. We base our laws on reality. Reality is, men are the cause of the problems |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:41 PM Response to Reply #195 |
271. Your logic is crucially flawed |
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Clark Can WIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:08 PM Response to Reply #271 |
282. Bullshit |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:14 AM Response to Reply #120 |
127. how many of those men |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:19 AM Response to Reply #127 |
131. What's your point? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:23 PM Response to Reply #131 |
176. That was not the gist of her post about 90% of prisoners. |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:52 PM Response to Reply #120 |
154. And when women stop straping their kids in cars... |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #154 |
198. Most murders are caused by men. Most children's deaths are at the hands of |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:14 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. Most child abuse is committed by women... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:19 PM Response to Reply #200 |
299. fathers take themselves out of the picture |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:16 PM Response to Reply #120 |
173. Does that go for black people too? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:31 PM Response to Reply #120 |
178. Way to be completely sexist |
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Mass_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:55 PM Response to Reply #120 |
185. Hold the hell up on that |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
245. Misogynistic judges |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. On the other hand... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
194. I'm sorry, but |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Care to educate me why this is not true? |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Start by looking at the lack of specific cases cited |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:04 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. There is so much hyperbole in that website, |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. No fucking sale |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
83. the orginal post is full of shit and so is this one |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. What a stinking |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. This thread ain't nuthin' but shit. |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Prove it. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. No how about you prove it with something besides |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. I don't see how it's bullshit. Maybe I'm just a sexist pig. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I don't care if you have 30, 000 posts, |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Oh, don't bust a vein. I'm giving a differing opinion on a minor issue. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. What do you care what I think? |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
157. North you have to learn that women can not be wrong on anything ever |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:02 PM Response to Reply #157 |
170. That's right. You summed it up better than I could have. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:40 PM Response to Reply #157 |
179. Sigh... |
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Clark Can WIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:17 PM Response to Reply #157 |
286. You mean the way some men view a woman as |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Evidence the system should change a lot more. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Wow, from a 15 year old syllabus with info as much as 40 years old |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:28 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. So legal practices in the 1990s are not relevant? |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:32 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Prove it. All your opinion still. Back that up with some fact. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
274. What about "unwed fathers"? |
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T Bone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. Maybe men just don't hire the best lawyers |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
15. Boo Hoo Hoo |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I would take that with a grain of salt anyway |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Found a study on the suicide rate of divorced men |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. This is true of men who are widowed as well though... |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. That is very interesting, and certainly does put a different "spin" on |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
47. Check your "5 times" comment. D minus on extrapolation. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
87. no skippy, the D minus goes to the idiot who wrote the article |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
116. Read for comprehension |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
17. Oh, cry me a river |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Oh, so those child welfare pricks are all good and righteous, then??? |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. And the men involved are all angels |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
180. why is this the only issue on DU where personal experience is |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:06 PM Response to Reply #180 |
187. because an anecdote is not evidence |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:42 PM Response to Reply #187 |
232. My communications professor would disagree with you. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:45 PM Response to Reply #232 |
291. ROTFLOL! |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. This isn't a right-wing, left-wing issue. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. i saw a divorce hearing |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Happens quite often -- proves the system is flawed. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. this is one reason why |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I live in a happy marriage... |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. yeah |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:34 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. And companionship, children, happiness, etc. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. you can be |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
181. i live in a happy marriage too |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Like Mr. Wiggins you are generalizing from anecdotal evidence. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:23 AM Response to Reply #38 |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Oh you are pulling this outta your ass |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. well, your female |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. well you're a male, and you just decided that the reason the |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. i diddent say it exactly |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Here's what you said exactly |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. i an quite good at reading body tones and motions |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I don't believe you |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:14 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. thats just closed mindedness |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:17 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I can live with that |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:18 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. so be it |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:48 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. LOL! Well if what I have to say bothers you then that is YOUR problem |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:53 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. your really hurting your credibility |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:02 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. I'll offer up my credibility for comparison next to yours ANY day |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:07 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. i got bored and came back |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:10 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. The alert button is down on the bottom to your left |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:11 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. why |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:32 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Ever notice we never hear of "deadbeat moms" - probably... |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:33 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. More likely because... |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:35 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. there is that factor |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. That's true. Most deadbeat parents are men. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. i am verry open |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. No, because there isn't a bias against men in court. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:58 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. perhaps |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
67. You really like to portray women as victims... |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. how do i portray them as victims? |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:09 AM Response to Reply #68 |
94. He wasn't responding to you |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:50 PM Response to Reply #94 |
153. Hey, don't be so mean to 7th_Sephiroth ... |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:45 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Excuse me? |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:50 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. thats not me |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:04 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. I didn't respond to you |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:05 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. looks like it |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
162. LOL! What??! Fathers receive primary OR joint custody |
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atre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:08 AM Response to Reply #162 |
312. No, that's not what joint custody means |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
161. So it is misogyny to want women treated the same as men? |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 02:02 AM Response to Reply #56 |
309. the percentage of deadbeats |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:58 AM Response to Reply #49 |
111. The big issue for fathers' rights activists... |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:08 AM Response to Reply #111 |
117. No, I believe most would choose custody of their children... |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:41 PM Response to Reply #111 |
163. I do not think men mind supporting their kids in general. |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:08 PM Response to Reply #111 |
196. Why not let the father take care of the kids... |
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Clark Can WIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
287. There are some deadbeat "moms" who are just as |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
61. You are talking about one judge in one case. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Thanks. Good site to save for future reference. |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:21 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. But lawyers often advise male clients they have little hope... |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. that is correct |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. But the question at hand is whether or not courts are biased |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:39 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Sorry, seen it too many times... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:58 AM Response to Reply #75 |
88. well if you have "seen it" then fuck the statistics, it must be true |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
165. SOemtimes even that's not enough.... |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
164. primary [b]OR[/b] joint custody |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
160. And what about the mom who lied? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
134. Hard for me to believe |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:44 PM Response to Reply #134 |
199. It's because of the assumed "father" |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:26 PM Response to Reply #199 |
203. Each state is different, but what the show said |
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Clark Can WIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:41 PM Response to Reply #203 |
289. you are forgetting the CHILD in this equation |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:52 PM Response to Reply #289 |
298. I think the ex-dad |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:37 PM Response to Reply #134 |
201. Not too surprising when a rape victim can be sued ... |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
159. My buddy is going through a divorce right now.... |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 05:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Not in a general sense they're not... |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
73. i have grown weary of debating this further |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:39 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. No. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:41 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. your useing a bit of trickery |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:54 AM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Nothing up my sleeves. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:04 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. lets look at your numbers |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:15 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. OK. |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:24 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. ok |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:33 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Do you have any statistics that contradict these? |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:38 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. not at the moment but |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:47 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. You offer me nothing but anecdotal lazy BS |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:50 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Feminisim |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:53 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Do you disagree with that premise? |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:58 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. i dont disagree with it |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:02 PM Response to Reply #110 |
169. Right, _one coworker_ |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:50 PM Response to Reply #169 |
183. merely one story |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
85. don't want kids in fatherless homes? Stay in your marriage |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:45 AM Response to Reply #85 |
105. Could not have said it better... |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:49 AM Response to Reply #85 |
107. Oh, yeah, like *I* had any say in the matter.... |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:50 PM Response to Reply #85 |
166. And when the woman is the one who wants to leave... |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
100. what an absurd notion - |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
102. Give me a break |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
104. Apparently you don't read much history |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
112. real stats on sexism and poverty in America -- not just the courts |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
113. I didn't bother reading... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:26 PM Response to Reply #113 |
147. More anecdotal evidence |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #147 |
167. perhaps... |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
114. It's sad to see that you have found so much support |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:13 AM Response to Reply #114 |
118. some people here believe the child support hoax. |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:20 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Life is short |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:35 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Why not move to Iran where you can enjoy their rules |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:16 AM Response to Reply #121 |
128. That's as silly as asking a progressive to move to Sweden. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:35 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. So what your saying is that you want to make the US less progressive |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:06 PM Response to Reply #132 |
144. Say what? |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:35 AM Response to Reply #118 |
133. Oh good. Another right wing source |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:01 AM Response to Reply #118 |
136. Women get divorced just so they can |
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veracity (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
124. Puleeez! |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:18 AM Response to Reply #124 |
130. But men don't get custody as much as women... |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:41 AM Response to Reply #130 |
135. Men don't ASK for custody most of the time |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:57 PM Response to Reply #135 |
168. THat's very misleading... 70% of the time |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:12 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Nope, look again |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:12 PM Response to Reply #168 |
172. Nope, look again |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:18 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. Nope... |
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wyethwire (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
125. The fatherhood movement ... |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
126. Why are some people being so closed-minded on this issue? |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:08 AM Response to Reply #126 |
137. The only one being closed minded here is you |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:20 AM Response to Reply #126 |
140. On the other hand |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
138. A few stats to back up a point |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:05 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. Interesting data -- a must read. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
139. Flame-bait |
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tex46 (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
141. Wow, so much hate |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
145. Well you had to know you'd be slaughtered! |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
148. Fatherhood is a guess, motherhood is a fact |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:46 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. And that proves the mother is the superior parent? |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:49 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. No, it doesn't mean that every mother is superior to every father |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:54 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Give the children to the best parent... |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:30 PM Response to Reply #148 |
220. Pathetic argument |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:43 PM Response to Reply #220 |
233. are we confusing custody with child support payments? |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
156. Agent Provocateur Posting here |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
158. How about a Non-Inflammatory Answer that actually addresses the post? |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:02 PM Response to Reply #158 |
186. great post |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
177. I am locking this thread. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. Hey, is there a rule against impersonating a moderator? |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 02:52 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. Well, it's friday and I'm feeling a little sneaky. |
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Room101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
188. In San Mateo county Men have no chance in Family court |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:42 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. You show proof -- but some on the board will dismiss you as... |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:57 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. Wigguns wasn't saying the system is unfair... |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 04:25 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. His point is, I believe, that fathers deserve more rights... |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:08 PM Response to Reply #197 |
207. I agree on more rights. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 03:54 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. Were all of those mothers drug addicts in that 95%? |
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Room101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:12 PM Response to Reply #192 |
261. cat_girl25 - THe answer to that question is in my post |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
204. This article is filled with nothing but anecdotel shit |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
205. Boy, I picked a doozie for my first post |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:06 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. Got a link for that? A source? |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:16 PM Response to Reply #206 |
209. Yes |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:19 PM Response to Reply #209 |
212. So then you can't back up your assertions..which is what you basically |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:26 PM Response to Reply #212 |
217. Here ya go |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:34 PM Response to Reply #217 |
223. Misleading |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:40 PM Response to Reply #209 |
230. No Sale |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:11 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. I'm calling bullshit on that one. |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:25 PM Response to Reply #208 |
215. Have fun |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:33 PM Response to Reply #215 |
221. Misleading.. |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:38 PM Response to Reply #221 |
227. No |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:55 PM Response to Reply #227 |
242. Wrong again. |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:25 PM Response to Reply #208 |
216. My guess is this. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:34 PM Response to Reply #216 |
225. You have guessed.....poorly. :) |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:16 PM Response to Reply #205 |
210. There are far fewer children in single father homes due to so many |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:18 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. No I am sorry. It is not. |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:21 PM Response to Reply #211 |
213. So what is the source of these percentages? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:28 PM Response to Reply #211 |
219. If you had a basis in fact, you would have provided it already |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
214. This survey is at least as scientific as the post that started this thread |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:34 PM Response to Reply #214 |
224. Really |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:45 PM Response to Reply #224 |
235. DU is indeed representative of this phenomenon |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:02 PM Response to Reply #235 |
247. Soooo |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:03 PM Response to Reply #235 |
249. BTW |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:00 PM Response to Reply #214 |
292. Very revealing! Out of about 50 single parents 3 were men |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
218. Attack sequence initiated |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:38 PM Response to Reply #218 |
226. M I S L E A D I N G |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:40 PM Response to Reply #226 |
229. And these facts? |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:50 PM Response to Reply #229 |
239. Udated MISLEADING post -- see above. |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:47 PM Response to Reply #226 |
236. It's not cool to intentionally tell untruths. |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:51 PM Response to Reply #236 |
240. Judging from |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:02 PM Response to Reply #240 |
248. And judging from the fact that you had absolutely nothing |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:39 PM Response to Reply #218 |
228. Immediate blowback ... |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:44 PM Response to Reply #228 |
234. Where there's smoke there's fire |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:49 PM Response to Reply #234 |
238. There's no smoke... |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:57 PM Response to Reply #238 |
244. Here's another |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 12:50 AM Response to Reply #244 |
304. There are two things there that you've overlooked: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:55 PM Response to Reply #234 |
241. Deleted message |
Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:04 PM Response to Reply #228 |
250. That's the whole point you crazy person!! |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:09 PM Response to Reply #250 |
253. See #252 n/t |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:10 PM Response to Reply #253 |
256. See #226 n/t |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:05 PM Response to Reply #228 |
251. LOL posted on the wrong response.... I'm leaving it up anyway. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:40 PM Response to Reply #218 |
231. Myths and Facts |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:49 PM Response to Reply #231 |
237. I picked the most bizarre one |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:57 PM Response to Reply #237 |
243. WHO IS ATTACKING THE SOURCE RATHER THAN THE ARGUMENT NOW? |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:00 PM Response to Reply #243 |
246. Your argument is |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:09 PM Response to Reply #218 |
255. Interesting choice of words |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:11 PM Response to Reply #255 |
260. It was more like... |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
222. The reason I find this interesting is because... |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
252. What has been pointed out in this thread |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:09 PM Response to Reply #252 |
254. Actually, it hasn't been pointed out at all, which is why you keep... |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:11 PM Response to Reply #254 |
259. Really? |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:18 PM Response to Reply #259 |
264. My opinion is: |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:10 PM Response to Reply #252 |
258. No what has been pointed out in this thread is that men know no bounds |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:14 PM Response to Reply #258 |
262. Which men would that be? |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:21 PM Response to Reply #258 |
265. I am truly sorry that men have let you down |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:23 PM Response to Reply #265 |
293. Oh for pity sakes! |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
263. Let us consult the master on this |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:21 PM Response to Reply #263 |
266. Deleted message |
Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:31 PM Response to Reply #266 |
267. The thread |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:32 PM Response to Reply #266 |
268. Why don't you back off him, OK??? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:40 PM Response to Reply #268 |
269. Deleted message |
Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:44 PM Response to Reply #269 |
273. There's nothing extreme about demanding that your claims be supported |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:55 PM Response to Reply #273 |
276. Jesus!!!!! |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:00 PM Response to Reply #276 |
278. So you acknowledge that data is not "clear" then -- |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 01:26 AM Response to Reply #278 |
306. No never said that |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 02:20 AM Response to Reply #306 |
310. No, there is a difference |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:44 PM Response to Reply #268 |
272. He made a claim, I asked for evidence, his evidence doesn't support ... |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:05 PM Response to Reply #272 |
280. See post #276 |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:12 PM Response to Reply #280 |
283. An honest answer: |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 12:29 AM Response to Reply #283 |
303. I have to interrupt you here Selwynn. |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 06:55 AM Response to Reply #263 |
321. Clinton was right on on that one! |
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Clark Can WIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
270. What an enormous stinking pile of pig shit |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 08:59 PM Response to Reply #270 |
277. Deleted message |
Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:03 PM Response to Reply #277 |
279. Do you have evidence to support this new claim? |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:13 PM Response to Reply #279 |
284. The post |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:16 PM Response to Reply #284 |
285. So, no then -- |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:44 PM Response to Reply #285 |
290. No you have it wrong |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:45 PM Response to Reply #290 |
296. Your membership to a fathers rights group |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 01:22 AM Response to Reply #296 |
305. Not true |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 02:46 AM Response to Reply #305 |
311. Okay, to you I seem arrogant |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:19 AM Response to Reply #311 |
315. I do |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 01:31 AM Response to Reply #270 |
307. When women are court orderd to pay support.. |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 01:55 AM Response to Reply #307 |
308. Got a link? A source? Data? |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:29 AM Response to Reply #308 |
318. I am surprised. |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:27 AM Response to Reply #307 |
317. The only deadbeat I know of... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
281. Over 200 Years of American "Justice" Says the Opposite. |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:21 AM Response to Reply #281 |
316. No, you are wrong! |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
288. My Ex ran off and left me with 3 kids, a mortgage and other bills... |
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Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:37 PM Response to Reply #288 |
294. Now THAT was a deadbeat mom |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
295. Deleted message |
Booberdawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 10:48 PM Response to Reply #295 |
297. ROFLOL! Now you know that is going to get deleted don't you? |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
300. RE: Children from fatherless homes... |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:19 AM Response to Reply #300 |
314. Women are abusers in most cases. |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:30 AM Response to Reply #314 |
319. So true n/t |
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maha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-03 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
302. Poor Baby. |
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Pontus (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:13 AM Response to Reply #302 |
313. Rape victim (male -- 12 years old) orders to pay child support. |
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Joinup (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-03 03:46 AM Response to Reply #302 |
320. Why do you say that? |
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