C-Span2 - Watch REPUGS attack the DEMOCRATS for being treasonous.

[LittleApple81]

FOR SECURITY COMMITTEE MEMO.

This is a horrible spectable of the majority of repugs putting down the democrats and actually calling the event "treasonous".

[Mel]

1. I should of know you where on it

:) I was a minute behind you.

[realFedUp]

2. Gads, he finally speaks...

Didn't think there was a majority leader for awhile...
howabout some reporter asking him about Dems having
to turn in their questions to the majority before
getting answers...

and who are the leakers in the administration.

More Bushwanking as usual.

[Skittles]

3. I don't understand this

they are silent on Plame but go gangbusters over THIS non-issue???

[Emboldened Chimp]

4. It's a damned diversion

they're trying to generate a fake scandal to cover up a real one. Fucking disgusting. Traitors, all!

[flpoljunkie]

48. You have hit the nail on the head!

And the lazy, compliant press gives this nonstory wings.

The real story is that the GOP members of the committee are doing everything they can to avoid investigating what the White House did with the intelligence they received--did they twist it to achieve the outcome they wanted--a trumped up case for war in Iraq.

[jbfam4]

17. We must have missed that

day when Frist asked the white house leaker to step forward. Anyone fill us in? LOL

[Mel]

5. so they are going to

try to play this memo let us not forget these are the same people that aren't going to investigate the Bush* White House outing of a CIA agent?

[kentuck]

6. They want to intimidate the Democrats into backing off....

They hate the idea of an independent investigation that might interfere with their inentions to sweep it all under the rug and to protect their Leader....

[Emboldened Chimp]

7. I'm listening to this Frankenstein of a Senator

and I want to do nothing but :puke:

This is the most vile, ridiculous and truly disturbing thing i've ever seen or heard. And btw, where, exactly, was this memo leaked to?

[Mel]

8. a partisan memo

these people are disgusting traitors they will stop at nothing to protect Bush*

Wonder if Frist is going to address how the memo was Stolen?

They are going to go after Senator Rockfellar (sp) what do you guys think?

He wants the person that wrote this memo to stand up....hey Frist, I want the person that leaked the CIA agents name to stand up!

[walkon]

15. Partisan

I haven't followed this too closely but wasn't the memo written to fellow democrats? You can tell the RNC/Rove puppet strings are the only things that keep these Stepford Senators going.

[Nite Owl]

9. What's wrong

What's wrong about the memo in the first place. I'm not seeing a problem. Like when did truth become a partisan thing.

[LittleApple81]

11. NOW WAGNER!!!!! "I have never seen anything this horrible

against the safety of our country."

[LittleApple81]

13. WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS!!!!

This is absolutely insulting BS!!!!!

[Scott Lee]

50. Busy attacking Howard Dean

What else is new.

[sendero]

14. there's nothing...

.... wrong with this memo other than it points out that the Dems are going to use all this stonewalling and other obfuscations politically.

Like the pukes would never do that. LOL :)

[Skittles]

20. exactly, Nite Owl

I don't understand what the freaking "ISSUE" is. I don't see one.

Welcome to the DU! :D

[Emboldened Chimp]

10. It's a Rovian diversion

to take the heat off the Plame ordeal. It's a fabrication, like bugging his own office or smearing McCain and Hightower. Utter nonsense.

[kentuck]

12. I could draw up another memo for them....

that would much more interesting. And would be glad to give it to them. There's no need for them to go thru the garbage. Basically, we do not want the Repubs to think they can cover up this investigation and if they don't do their job, we will do it for them. They can whine and pout all they want. The American people deserve the truth and we are going to do our damnedest to give it to them. Got a problem with that?

[Beetwasher]

16. Feh, if the papers and other news channels haven't

covered it at this point it's not going anywhere anyway...

[LittleApple81]

19. They will leak this crap. Not what Byrd says, but this will go to

the press. IF THE DEMOCRATS DON'T REMOVE THE GLOVES NOW THEY AND WE DESERVE WHAT HAPPENS.

[Mel]

18. Senator Warner up

they are so full of it! They all need some phone calls from us now! Bonds up yapping about focusing on the War on Terror......Hey, what about those WMD guys?
We can't win it unless we have the best intelligence....Hello guys what are you afraid of? The Truth that your boy lied. They are twisting this memo as if it's to win the WH.
Who here believes these people are smart enough to be on the intelligence committee? If this is how they are reading the memo I say they aren't smart enough for the jobs they have, they need to be fired!

Bond brought up how someone in his office said it was a witch hunt :wtf: they are mad! I tell you, mad! Hello.....Clinton, now that was a eight year witch hunt!

[LittleApple81]

21. What is this crap? non-partisan Chabliss is saying....

they have stonewalled any and all investigation the administration!!!!

[LittleApple81]

22. Where is Rockefeller? He was there before for the Internet Tax stuff. n/t

[Mel]

23. Chambliss

called the memo a weapon of mass destruction :crazy:

[LittleApple81]

24. NOW Pat Roberts!!!!!

Bi-partisan way????????????

[LittleApple81]

25. Direct attack of the oversight role for the committee.

Boy, a road we did not want to take....
Why are these jerks???
He is "absolutely stunned!"
Democrats are silent about THIS OUTRAGE he says!!!
silk purse of this sow's ear.
I cannot believe this country.

[Mel]

26. Roberts just used the word

treasonist memo so where the hell are the Democrats? They need to come to the freaking floor Now!

[LittleApple81]

27. Kerry said that? That this destroys the bipartisanship????

[LittleApple81]

28. Now Kyl from Arizona!!!!!

WHAT IS GOING ON.
Roberts "so soft" on the Democrats on this matter!!!

[LittleApple81]

29. If the STUPID democrats don't blow the whole thing open

this is amazing!!!!!

[LittleApple81]

30. This is crazy!!!!

[Mel]

31. sure is

and the Democrats had best not roll over on this one this is such BS!
I'm sick and tired of it!

[LittleApple81]

33. They will roll, they will roll, they will roll. We and democracy

are finished.

[LittleApple81]

35. I cannot watch this any more. After I read about the school

in Kentucky, and I see this, I just want to give a requiem for the United States of America.

[Oilwellian]

32. Let's break the memo down

"We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:

1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard."

Good. I'm glad to see the Dems carefully review options "under the rules" on how to present intelligence gathered that lead to war and death. I guess the majority is upset that the Dems are "pulling" them along towards major new disclosures that will shed improper or questionable conduct by Bush and his cabal. Perhaps this is WHY the republicans are so upset right now. :wink:


"For example, in addition to the President's State of the Union speech, the chairman has agreed to look at the activities of the office of the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department.

The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and cosigns our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority."

I'm thrilled to see the Senate Intel Comte. investigating the offices of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Bolton. As we all know, the Office of Special Plans plays a key role in the intelligence Bush used. It's also heartwarming to know that Rockefeller thinks the support of the SSIC's chairman will help garner "far greater access" to the crucial information they need for it to be a thorough investigation.

"2) Assiduously prepare Democratic 'additional views' to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it.

In that regard we may have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims. We will contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry.

The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an Independent Commission."

Whoa Nellie! The Democrats are taking advantage of a Committee rule and attaching additional views to the interim report! I'm shocked, just shocked that this is going on. It also appears the Dems have damning evidence that will show the administration exaggerated claims to go to war. No wonder republicans are stonewalling this investigation and trying to discredit Rockefeller.

"3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation of the administration's use of intelligence at any time. But we can only do so once."

Why the audacity of the Dems! How dare they want an independent investigation because the majority is stonewalling!

"B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue, we would attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the use of intelligence."

How DARE the Dems seek greater awareness and want to be sure their call for an independent investigation has credibility behind it! Why I never! That's not how government is run these days!

"In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter footdragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman. We have independently submitted written requests to the DOD and we are preparing further independent requests for information."

I'd say this is a classic example of how the Republicans are stonewalling. Thanks goodness the minority on the SSIC has the power to authorize independent investigations.

"SUMMARY: Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet we have an important role to play in revealing the misleading, if not flagrantly dishonest, methods and motives of senior administration officials who made the case for unilateral preemptive war.

I'd say intelligence issues have a direct bearing on the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. The public has a right to know if this administration used "flagrantly dishonest" methods and motives when making a case for unilateral, preemptive war. Do we really want a lying, manipulative administration sending our kids to war in the future? A war that is obviously based on lies?

[nostamj]

34. whenever you think that repubs can't be more hypocritical

one of them opens their mouth again.

if the dems don't step up on this..........


:grr::nuke::grr:

[leesa]

36. I think this is actually good because it quite clearly points out the

hypocrisy of their support of the Plame outing. The more noise they make, they more people are going to go, but wait a minute....l

[0rganism]

37. Is this the start of a purge? or just another tempest in the teapot?

I was annoyed yesterday by the sheer triviality of the complaint, but today I'm getting a bit nervous. Are the Dems going to respond in kind, or just sit there sheepishly for the hammering?

[MissB]

38. It would be better if Harry Reid would use a forceful voice

He's made some good points, but sheesh. Put some force behind it.

[Mel]

40. Reid

pointing out the memo was stolen and then released by the majority and pointing out the leak from the WH outing of the CIA agent.

[LittleApple81]

39. Reid (D-NV) - Memo stolen from the office of the democrats

and published by the Republicans.

[LittleApple81]

41. Accusing senators who are not on the floor. So I guess

Rockefeller is not there to defend himself.

[LittleApple81]

42. So who is on the floor? Reid seems to be alone?

What is going on????

[kentuck]

43. I bet money Zell gave it to the Repubs...

He also called it "treasonous"

[jbfam4]

44. well, he is a big

fox fan and was on Hannity's radio show and of the Hannity and Colmes show.

[Cocoa]

45. get used to it

the repugs have started, they will jump on everything they can, don't be shocked at the depths to which they'll stoop, or try to figure it out. It's all sand in our eyes.

[jbfam4]

46. you're right

they will take anything and blow it up and out of proportions. That keeps the talk off the real issues. How come they waited until most of the Senators have left for the weekend to bring this up?......HUMMMMM.

[arcane1]

49. yep, this is just the beginning folks...

wait till the '04 campaign starts really getting going! It's going to be ugly, I expect repube riots, claims of treason, violence, you name it, it's coming...

:grr:

[LeahMira]

47. It's the only note they sing...

... their one-note samba.

You either have to be with them or with the terrorists. As long as we put up with letting them put things in terms of either/or, I'm afraid we are going to have a nation divided with all non-Republicans (Libertarians, Greens, Reforms, Independents, and etc. as well as Democrats) are going to be cast in the role of the bad guys.

Of course if they wanted an investigation about what Clinton might have known...