OMG. From the Dean Blog -- What is the DNC doing?

[Eloriel]

I'm wondering if Dems in other states are getting emails from the DNC about why we should vote against Howard Dean in the primaries?

In this one they quote from "Who can win Ohio" by [e-mail] and "explain" why Clark or Gephardt are preferable.


There is no way the DNC (or even a state party) should be doing this. They are supposed to remain neutral until a nominee is chosen.

Is anyone else getting such email? (I wouldn't know since I cancelled my email subscription to the DNC shit a loonnnnnng time ago.)

Edited: Link http://blogcgi.deanforamerica.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=2329

Eloriel

[Cha]

1. They better watch out or they are going to

go under. The dnc is playing with fire and they are too dense to notice they could get burned badly.

[caledesi]

3. Let the people speak. F*ck the DNC/DLC *sorry to candy-coat it"

LOL!

[bushisanidiot]

2. I Get Email From DNC, but None That Endorses or Disses Any Particular

candidate. However, if they are saying to vote against Dean, it's probably just to f*ck with Rove's head. Fatboy Rove pretends that he wants Dean to win, but we know he's scared sh*tless.

:)

[Skwmom]

17. Oh yeah. That's why the media has been cheerleading

for Dean and giving him a pass on all of his flip-flops.

[Skwmom]

18. Duplicate - sorry

[Skwmom]

19. Duplicate

[Skwmom]

20. Duplicate

[Skwmom]

21. Duplicate

[Terwilliger]

22. some mad clickin', skwmom

;-)

[Skwmom]

24. Sorry. I think I need a new mouse.

[onebigbadwulf]

4. What people don't understand that if Dean wins

all cronyism ends everywhere across the board.

both the GOP and DNC are deep in bed with corporations, and they will be forced to do anything they can to prevent that from happening.

[Skwmom]

27. I wonder how IBM is going to take the news

considering he was their good buddy in VT. I feel sorry for some of his supporters because they are in for a major letdown.

[KaraokeKarlton]

33. IBM was welcomed by Vermonters

We wanted them here. They provided good high paying jobs that we needed. Vermont wanted Howard Dean to work with IBM to get and keep them here. Just because a few radicals in my state who screech loudly didn't like IBM doesn't mean they are in the majority. They aren't. Those who screech usually are wealthy Massachussetts liberals who move to my state and try to take over and tell the rest of us what is best for us. It was Dean's job to represent the best interests of the majority of Vermonters...and having a good relationship with IBM was a perfect example of that.

[tinanator]

28. so how do you reach that conclusion?

I do hope you have the time to respond to a serious question?

[Scott Lee]

5. This doesn't surprise me in the least

The statist assholes in the DNC hate Dean little less than they do George Bush. They are beneath nothing to sabotage Dean's campaign. I suggest that if they try to pull anything, we do a little Chicago '68 Democratic Convention trip on them and see if they have the sand to hold their ground.

The sooner this rancid establishment bites the astrodust, the better for the Democrats.

[Cha]

6. Atta Boy!

:toast:

[Closer]

7. Just more

proof that Clinton and the Establishment is trying to crush Dean.


Clinton wants to be the King of the Party, and he knows with Dean, his reign is almost over.



Keep it up, Establishment folk, you guys are gonna get war!

[Renew Deal]

8. Can you get more info?

Like a copy of the email ans some headers? I would love to know more.

[drfemoe]

11. It's not from the DNC but from the local org

http://ohiodems.org/

[madfloridian]

12. Where is the comment about Dean, though?

I don't see it there. Or does it just imply?

[chimpymustgo]

14. What IS the DNC up to? Where's the beef? What's the beef?

I guess I just don't GET it.

[drfemoe]

16. ohiodems.org

emailed the washington post article to their members. They let the article speak for them .. the link to the article is posted in this thread.

[Logansquare]

32. These the geniuses who encouraged Jerry Springer to run? n/t

.

[Renew Deal]

15. I don't see anything.

Am I missing something?

[flpoljunkie]

9. Here is a link to the article from yesterday's Washington Post.

Harold Meyerson is a liberal, is he not? Have not received any email from the DNC regarding this either, but thanks for pointing it out as I somehow missed it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59640-2003Nov18.html

You might also find this article that Harold Meyerson wrote about Terry McAuliffe in the American Prospect, a progressive magazine, called "Judging Terry". McAuliffe evidently has been working very hard to get the party ready for 2004.

http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/11/meyerson-h.html

[drfemoe]

10. what's meyersonh's DU handle?

I know he's here somewhere!!

Get Trippi on this asap.

[mmonk]

13. The last time I checked

the people (rank and file)determine who they should vote for.

[CWebster]

23. Can we serve them with a class action suit?

;-)

[slinkerwink]

25. the DNC asked me for money

and I refused them in an e-mail because they didn't play nice with Dean...

[audibledevil]

26. THERE IS NO DNC ANTIDEAN CONSPIRACY!`

Where do you get this?
The DNC wants everyone to win!!!

[slinkerwink]

29. nope, they don't

:eyes:

[chimpymustgo]

34. Okay. That's it. Y'all have officially LOST IT.

This is severe paranoia. Get an effing GRIP!

[tinanator]

30. what has the DNC to do with anything?

I thought the DLC was the devil? Im fairly sure they all would be delighted with the Dr's ascension, IF he could do it. In fact, I think they would be just as happy to see Bush retain power. But maybe that's just me, being a cynic...

[Cocoa]

31. Dean is a viable candidate on his own merits

his campaign is doing very well, so his supporters can drop the persecution complex and Dean will still have a very good shot at the nomination.

[AnnabelLee]

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[kodi]

36. oh good grief, were dean supporters active in the party beforehand?

yeah, i think it is untrue that dean is not capable of winning in 2004. but the gripes here are focusing on how the big bad folks that run the democratic party are attacking dean.

as natural as water flowing downhill, and not really actions on their part which are to be cast as the moral equivalent of murdering and devouring infants, like the various knee-jerk responses here have bleated.

the folks aiming at dean are not outsiders and actually are the folks who run the democratic party at the state and national levels. these folks have a position in the power structure of the party and are defending the structure that yields them power.

they are doing this because they can, and they can because when the democratic party needs them, they show up.

this is why they run the party and its agenda.

they show up.

if someone, anyone, even many someones in unison demands control of the party and its agenda without doing first the necessary duties required by active members of the political party, year in, and year out, they will be rejected by those who SHOW UP ALL THE TIME.

bitching about how those damned party regulars are undermining dean would resonate more if those bitching had been more active in democratic politics.

party regulars look at the quad-annual sun-shine activists with incredulous dispair. they see people who get active once every 4 years and who expect that their voices will account for more weight in democratic politics than those who man the party apparatus each day.

there is a word for that behavior. it is called being ignorant.

moral of the story, get active (all the time), get heard.

THOSE WHO SHOW UP DECIDE.

BTW: GO DOCTOR DEAN!!