THIS is why Dean is the frontrunner...

[Closer]

Because he's a FIGHTER. He's not gonna sit back and take the attacks from BushCo. He's not going to let Republicans fool everyone into thinking they're tough on terrorism. That we're only safe with Republicans in control. Dean's even calling Bush out on being Saudi-light. And yes, he's attacking Bush's Thanksgiving photo op.

Drudge is becoming obsessed with Dean. And I think that's a good sign. Below is what Drudge is reporting in an "exclusive" :eyes:


Dean Attacks Bush on Defense, Foreign Policy
Sun Nov 30 2003 19:00:14 ET

Howard Dean launched a full-throated attack on President Bush's foreign policy acumen Sunday in New Hampshire, saying Bush has "no understanding of defense," is conducting diplomacy by "petulance" and lacks "the backbone to stand up against the Saudis!"

WASHINGTON POST hottie Howard Kurtz is planning to file a report from Merrimack: "Amid a crush of well-wishers seeking autographs at a high school here, Dean said of Bush: 'I think he's made us weaker. He doesn't understand what it takes to defend this country, that you have to have high moral purpose. He doesn't understand that you better keep troop morale high rather than just flying over for Thanksgiving,' as Bush did in visiting Baghdad.

"At another town hall meeting, in Manchester, Dean added: 'Mr. President, if you'll pardon me, I'll teach you a little about defense.'"

Developing...

[saline]

1. Thems fightin' words...

and it's about damn time.

[Fla_Democrat]

2. Washington Post

"hottie"? :wtf:

[janx]

27. Well it is Drudge, after all. He thought David Brock was hot too.

Maybe he sees some kind of resemblance.

[TLM]

3. And here is another reason....

Your Response
Tuesday, November 25, 2003


On Friday afternoon, Bush attacked -- and you responded. We put up the bat and asked you to raise $360,000 by Tuesday at midnight. In just 54 hours you surpassed that goal -- and because of you, yesterday we went on the air in Iowa to challenge Bush's attempts to question the patriotism of those who opposed the war in Iraq.
__________________________________________________________________

Show me another campaign that can raise over half a million bucks in 3 days to respond to a repuke attack ad, make the ad, and air it inside of a week.

[maggrwaggr]

60. yeah, that's very cool. n/t

[dawgman]

4. I'm sure he'll fight against the established corporatism

and greed that is US politics, as well.

[Bombtrack]

5. they're all negative about Bush

Dean's just negative about almost everything including his opponents.

He's the frontrunner because he latched on to the anti-war movement and because the GOP wants him to be

[sventvkg]

11. Yea right...Well if you are smart you'll put down the attitude and

get in line to support the nominee because it's ain't gonna be Edwards or ANY of the FAILED ESTABLISHMENT WASHINGTON insiders...The REASON DEAN is the frontrunner is because the liberal Base is SICK of the loosing tactics employed by the current Democratic leadeship and we are demanding change...and our voices will be heard...If you were perceptive you would realize that....

[Bombtrack]

18. Edwards is less of an insider and less part of dem leadership than Dean

But I guess because his mailbox has been in Georgetown rather than Montpelier for the last 5 years, Dean being a corporate pushover and a typical politician in Vermont is fine.

[sventvkg]

21. I like Edwards...He's a Good Man..I see a nice Political Future for him

[NewYorkerfromMass]

47. I like DEAN... I see a nice Political Future for him

maybe surgeon general.

[Scott Lee]

26. I think Edwards would make a great Attorney General

I hope President Dean will have the foresight to nominate him for appointment.

[Pastiche423]

41. Oh god no!

The disabled would be doomed!

:mad:

[arewethereyet]

44. I think Edwards would make a darn fine president

Atty General ? He's a little too good for that.

[okieinpain]

62. actually I think it's time that we start talking about dean's running mate

.

[KaraokeKarlton]

52. What's wrong with typical Vermont politicians?

Other examples of typical Vermont politicians are Bernie Sanders, Patrick Leahy, and Jim Jeffords.

Vermont puts out the most courageous, honest and honorable politicians in the country.

[Bombtrack]

53. He's a typical politician period

ruthless, cautious, self-absorbed

[janx]

6. The right-wing is coming after Dean now consistently.

"Articles" like this appear every day.

[wyldwolf]

7. This story is important!

Now if all the candidates would say as much.

[unfrigginreal]

12. Nice edit

I'll refrain.

[Closer]

14. LOL

I can ONLY imagine what was there before. I can only imagine :eyes:

[wyldwolf]

19. Then I'll add it back here...

...it's just as important as the story two places down on Drudge.

[Name removed]

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[wyldwolf]

30. bring it on...

"Get started" on Clark with your "arsenal."

[Name removed]

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[wyldwolf]

36. So now you think that "someone" coined that phrase?

LOL.

OK... I challenge you to unleash your Clark "arsenal."

Probably the same old same old, though. You have not demonstrated the creativity and fortitude to uncover anything new.

[wyldwolf]

49. waiting...

[RetroLounge]

56. Bring it on?

Lets roll?

Hmmmm. Sounds familiar...

[unfrigginreal]

24. Yeah, Drudge has it about right

Dean blasts Bush
Dean consults with Carter
Hit piece by Isikoff
And
Clark schmoozes with Madonna

[Closer]

32. LOL

[slinkerwink]

34. lol!

;-)

[JNelson6563]

20. Me too and the reasons for it.

LOL!

[DemDogs]

8. Edwards has been a fighter his whole life but

Dean really hasn't been fighting against the right and against special interests until this campaign, has he? It just makes me wonder. I trust Edwards because he has been fighting for us his whole life. I just feel uneasy that Dean's being a fighter is not what he really is since he really wasn't.

What were his big fights BEFORE he was running? When did he go up against special interests? (I really am asking)

[Rose Siding]

17. He had a real tussle

with the right wingers over civil unions in VT. His security made him wear kevlar.

In fact, I read a statement he made after the signing. There is a gracious generousity of spirit for the defeated that I only appreciated upon reflection. Here's the link-

http://rutlandherald.com/hdean/6607

[reknewcomer]

31. Dean signed the bill in private

What does that tell you?

[Rose Siding]

38. Your question tells me you didn't read the link

[Zynx]

40. Everybody knew he signed it. He stood by it. What difference is there?

He almost got defeated because of it also. He nearly got below fifty percent though he beat the repuke by 12 points because the progressive party polled seven percent and that would have forced it into the legislature where they may have selected a right-winger. He suffered for it because he stood by it.

[slinkerwink]

43. still, he ended up getting reelected

[Zynx]

48. Yes. Despite the best efforts of the Repukes. He beat her by 12 points.

It was a Trumanesque victory. A major upset. No one expected him to survive that challenge. He is the only candidate who has had to draw major fire over the gay issue and is therefore best able to handle it.

[sventvkg]

9. I blatently agree..DEAN or CLARK..Both do not take crap..

Hence, one of them will be the candidate, no matter how much the DNC objects to Dean..He has the Balls to attack the Repugs back and set things right. I REALLY respect that abou him and Clark is the Same way. The other Dems are Crap...The Washington Establishment ones..I'm over all of them to be honest So For me, it has to be Dean or Clark..I don't care which, i dig them both...

[Bombtrack]

15. can we stop lying about organizations objecting Dean or

being against him. The DNC, the DLC, the "establishment". Just because prominent members of these bodies have expressed concern about the prospect of Dean's likely landslide loss.

It would be like saying that everybody who works for "The West Wing" is against Kerry because Martin Sheen is for Dean.

[sventvkg]

25. So you see "Dean's likely landslide loss" Eh? Who will you support?

If he gets the nomination? Edwards is a Fine man but what if he doesn't get the nom and dispite everything the Democratic establishment does to subvert him, Dean gets the Nomination? All that matters is that you will fall in line and do what you need to do to get Bushco out of Power...I'm sure you will, so the rest is not worth arguing about is it? have a nice day. :)

[Touchdown]

29. Can you stop lying about his "likely landslide loss"?

You don't know any more than Miss Cleo. Stop poisoning the well.

[Eloriel]

54. No, I will NOT stop bringing this up and making it well known

It's been WELL documented -- hardly a lie. The Democratic Establishment, led by the Clintons, is firmly against Dean. They know there's every chance in the world he can -- and will -- win (voting machines allowing that, of course), and it would be the end of their dominance. He's NOT a Clintonite.

None of their other DLC flunkies (Gephardt, Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards -- all DLC members) have panned out. None of them will. They encouraged Clark to enter the race and probably helped with the whole bogus Draft Clark movement too. If not them, Jackson Stephens. SOMEONE financed that effort. But they most certainly sent their loyal gophers, ex-Clinton aides, to Clark's campaign.

Not long before Clark announced, Bill was quoted as saying, "There are two stars in the Democratic Party -- Hillary and Wes Clark." There was no reason for him to say that. Also not long before Clark announced, Hillary gave a lengthy interview to a talking head whom I've forgotten, and she spoke glowingly about Clark, adding, "But this is not an endorsement. I can't endorse anyone right now." This was no accident either.

Meanwhile the reports of the Stop Dean movement had already begun, and they've only accelerated. Howard Fineman was one early adopter.

IF ANYONE IN THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT wanted these Stop Dean conversations and gossip in the press to stop, they could stop them. They don't.

And let's not forget how coy Hillary has been about HER plans. Nearly as coy as Clark. Juices up the gossipy stories, keeps her in the limelinght, and Dean less so.

You're being terribly naive about all this. Or, actually, more likely just purposely obtuse.

Eloriel

[Closer]

58. Damn-well said Eloriel!

You're a damned PATRIOT!

:yourock:

[mchaudry]

63. nothing personal but some of you deanies are a tad unhinged

it is obvious that many here are a bit irrational in your postings or your perceptions. hmmmm, kind of strange actually. but i guess you mean well. i guess since the right has its zombies the left has to have then too. :-)

[burning bush]

67. Nothing personal?

But Dean supporters are the equal of the right's zombies?

Now who would take that personally? :)

Tell you what - nothing personal - but you just encouraged me to send Dean another $25 bucks. I'm just irrational like that ;)

[jpgray]

10. Dean is (with Sharpton) the most fun to listen to (nt)

[quaker bill]

13. Exactly

You start to get the impression that he actually wants the job and is willing to fight for it.

He is not a 'vote for me because I have the best set of policies' kind of candidate. He has good policy ideas like many of the rest of the candidates.

Dean is more of an inspired 'vote for me because I will stand up to them and advocate for you' kind of candidate. I like him because I know if he is the nominee, he will challenge the repugs on every front. He will take the initiative and hammer them day after day.

If Bush* says something that does not make sense, like he does daily, it will be pointed out and driven home within that very same news cycle.

The entire premise of repugnican government needs to be challenged, directly and in real time. It is the only way to win this one. We cannot have another candidate that awaits the results of polling or focus groups before speaking out.

[Closer]

16. Nice post, Quaker Bill

Thanks for that~!

Well said. :yourock:

[liberalhistorian]

22. I totally agree, especially

with Kerry and Gephardt and Edwards kowtowing to the GOP, especially in regards to Iraq, and with Holy Joe finally coming out and saying that this is a "holy war", confirming what we knew about him all along!

[Cocoa]

28. I like it

to be accurate, though, there's not enough of a difference b/w his attacks on Bush and the others'attacks on Bush to say it explains his frontrunner status.

[Eloriel]

61. THAT is explained by the fact that he was first -- and foremost

and made it "safe" for the others (in their minds) to come out of hiding.

Eloriel

[Padraig18]

33. Dean is NOT afraid of *

He and Clark both speak out bluntly about *'s failings as a 'leader', and that is why they are my #1 and #2 choices, respectively.

[slinkerwink]

37. The fact that Dean doesn't take any crap

shows how well he'll do at deflecting rovian attacks...

[Padraig18]

39. Yes!

Unlike certain pink, tutu tutu-wearing Democrats, Dean is not afraid to call a spade a spade. :thumbsup:

[slinkerwink]

42. yep

:toast:

[Eloriel]

45. Link?

[slinkerwink]

46. it's on www.drudgereport.com

;-)

[annagull]

50. I can't get over "Howard Kurtz" and "Hottie" being in the same sentence

Man, that Drudge is truly bizzare..
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I2238-2003Jul30

[slinkerwink]

51. lol

I don't think Howard Kurtz is a hottie...

[wildwww2]

55. The GOP`ers that he prostitutes for think he is a hottie. CNN made special

arrangements to pander even more to the right-wing than it already did. I`m sure Howie stepped right up and volunteered to do what he does best. Slam Democrats and kiss the GOP party`s ass.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[goforit]

57. WhooooHooooo!!!!!.........Rock the vote DEAN!!!

:bounce:

[maggrwaggr]

59. as usual, Dean says what I think. It's weird!

Thank God finally someone's saying the truth: That Bush is making us LESS safe by his idiotic actions.

Having our Armies completely bogged down in a place where they don't need to be .....

What if something were to happen and we actually NEEDED to go to war? We'd be fucked.

Plus, Bush didn't protect the country on 9/11. I wish somebody would start bringing THAT little detail up.

[mchaudry]

64. wes clark has been saying this for months :-)

lol...where ya been gal????????????????

[slinkerwink]

66. why.....so has dean for a year and a half.....

where've you been, clarkite?

[Andromeda]

65. "hottie Howard Kurtz"

pardon me while I throw up :puke: