Does this guy look Presidential?

[NNN0LHI]

Poll question: Does this guy look Presidential?

Former NATO (news - web sites) commander Wesley Clark (news - web sites) said the 2004 presidential election would be a referendum on Bush's 'war on terror,' which he accused the administration of losing.(AFP/File/Tim Sloan)

Looks should have nothing to do with an election but we all know they do. What do you think? Does an unposed for picture of Clark seem to have what it takes?

Don

[slinkerwink]

1. this belongs in the DU lounge, not the GD

[NNN0LHI]

3. Say what. Where is that in the rules my friend? n/t

[Democrats unite]

9. Are we having a little temper tantrum?

eom

[bicentennial_baby]

11. Meow!

Hiss! :P

[Kahuna]

20. Psst!

That was a good one. ROTF. :bounce:

[bicentennial_baby]

43. Merci

You know me Kahuna, I just call 'em like I see 'em!

[Cocoa]

21. compared to the hotel scandal

this poll is deadly important.

[xultar]

22. So what is the difference between this and who has the most

meet-ups? You should be fair and you're not. Looking presidential and how many meetups you have are both unimportant to some extent.

Although historians will tell you that it did have a positve factor for JFK when he debated Nixon.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

105. Ha! - post a Dean picture as "rebuttal" then. eom

[DODI]

2. I know two people voting for him just because of the tie in that shot.

[laura888]

12. LOL! Its a beautiful tie, alright! n/t

n/t

[MoonRiver]

60. Hey, whatever it takes to beat the *

Seriously, some only want to look at the surface, but I'm positive that anyone who scratches will find an interior of gold in General Wes Clark.
:kick:

[Eric J in MN]

4. an unflattering photo of Wesley Clark looks better than

An unflattering photo of Wesley Clark looks better than an unflattering photo of other candidates.

[jpgray]

5. Whatever I think about Clark, the guy does look great

However, looks are a total non-factor to me.

[NNN0LHI]

10. " looks are a total non-factor to me" Me too

But we are both smart enough to know the majority of the electorate do not think as we do.

Don

[NNN0LHI]

79. Have to fess up. After thinking about it for a while jpgray I am waffling

I do think looks could effect my vote. In the extreme scenerio such as if Elizabeth Hurley were running for president I might look past many other deficiencies in her candidacy and still vote for here? Its the truth too. Might be human nature?

Don

[Closer]

6. Sure,

he LOOKS presidential. He's a handsome, handsome man. I'll give you that.


Now whether he's the best pick to be President, that's a whole different question.


But if it makes you feel good about it, then vote based on looks. That sounds like the sane thing to do.

[janx]

73. "a handsome, handsome man" ?

[Closer]

77. LOL

I NEVER said the fangs were handsome.

[Tom Rinaldo]

7. Even Bush can look Presidential

As long as he doesn't open his mouth or sneer too obviusly. Small chubby bald men tend not to look Presidential, but that can change. All Women tend to not "look Presidential" since all Presidents have tended to look Male.

[DODI]

16. When?

[Tom Rinaldo]

19. It would take a really skilled photographer

I admit that. And the first whiff of any audio and they completely blow the illusion. Oooops, I guess it's too late, Bush will neer look Presidential...

[NNN0LHI]

33. Glad we got past the "even Bush can look Presidential" sensibly

Seriously. I was starting to worry for you. :-)

Don

[creativelcro]

37. Bush can SORT OF look presidential (if you change his face)

the portrait has to distort a few features though... The man NEVER looks like this in real pictures...

[NNN0LHI]

40. I was talking more about a normal unposed for photo like this one of Bush

[newyawker99]

95. LMAO!!! My favorite pic of him!

:D

[Kahuna]

42. He kinda looks like Curly of the three stooges, doesn't he?

:wow:

[NNN0LHI]

54. Not sure about Curly, but...

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. That's great! Thanks. n/t

[MoonRiver]

62. He looks like Tom Brokaw there!

Tom Brokaw for pres???

[newyawker99]

96. Ewwww!!

That painting is disgusting! :puke:

[creativelcro]

34. Sigourney Weaver looks presidential

:)

[Tom Rinaldo]

50. If we were voting based on photos

I would vote for her. Yup, I would.

[Kahuna]

8. You ain't right, Don. Wes looks like he could...

be a male underwear model in that pose. }(
:smoke: You just ain't right.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

13. He doesn't just look Presidential.

He looks Godly.

(that was not meant to sound homosexual, trust me)

[Kahuna]

15. That is an awesome shot. Whew!

I'm spritzing over here. :evilgrin:

[Toucano]

23. Sure, anything you say.

"(that was not meant to sound homosexual, trust me)"

But ch'a are in the wheelchair, Blanche. Ya' are in the wheelchair!



:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Yes

indeed. He looks Presidential. :loveya:

[Kahuna]

17. Where's Billybunter? I want a new sig with THAT photo!

Woo hoo... Billy! Where are you?

[neebob]

18. Yes

He looks like a genius with a conscience who will mop the floor with a shrub if given the chance to debate him.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

24. Well I'm certainly going to be using this pic on my website..

Best Clark photo yet?

[mlawson]

25. Not the best photo of him. YES, he looks presidential.

About as presidential as it gets.

[Cat Atomic]

26. Looks like a god damned GQ magazine article on how to dress.

Damn that revolting handsome man... argh...

(is jealous)

lol- anyway, yeah- he looks presidential, alright. I'm a Kucinich supporter myself, but I must admit that Clark's the most telegenic candidate.

[Lefta Dissenter]

27. But does he look more presidential than...

THIS?????

[Kahuna]

28. ROTF.... Excellent!

}(

[SeveneightyWhoa]

30. Hahahahhahaa.

I think the rest of this thread should consist of "real" "Presidential" pics, of Bush in his usual nondiplomatic, chimplike manner.

[elperromagico]

85. LOL... Clark certainly looks more sober.

[newyawker99]

97. LMAO!!! It looks like the limo pic!

[oasis]

29. poll participant checking in

[jsw_81]

31. No

He looks very vice presidential. :D

[creativelcro]

32. This is a good photo. But they all could look presidential...

Furthermore, many actors could look presidential! Do you want Harrison Ford for president ? Seems a rather superficial feature to judge. Besides, of course people are going to find that their own candidate looks more presidential than the other ones...

[arewethereyet]

35. nothing personal but NO

the guy looks creepy to me. A kind of wild eyed Lurch from the Addams family. Dennis the K looks more presidential than the General.

[jsw_81]

39. You think that the 5'2'' Kucinich looks more presidential than Clark?

ROFLMAO

[Kahuna]

44. My mother loves DK. She calls him..

her little elf. }(

Hey, Dennies! Don't get mad at me. Mom said it. Her phone number is: 555-cal-lmom

[SeveneightyWhoa]

55. LMAO.

Yes, Dennis Kucinich looks more presidential than The General.
Get yourself checked into an asylum, IMMEDIATELY. For your own good.

[FrenchieCat]

36. Damn!

That man has a fine..........Shut your mouth.....

But I'm talking about his mind!

and I am digging it!:nuke:


CLARK AS A YOUNG FINE MAN!

[Closer]

67. And...

CLARK AS AN OLD, OLD MAN

[SeveneightyWhoa]

87. LMAO

Not very flattering, I must say! Thats probably the first hideous pic of Clark that I've ever seen..

[Minstrel Boy]

38. If you mean does he look like a wealthy, connected, white alpha male,

then yes, absolutely!

Tough luck for Carol Mosely-Braun, the disabled (FDR?), and short men with big ideas.

[Lefta Dissenter]

41. If I think a white man is hot... I mean Presidential looking,

it doesn't mean that I can't also think that a black, purple or orange man or woman or android looks presidential. Duh. Can't you just relax and have fun sometimes? :shrug:

[NNN0LHI]

47. No thats not what I mean at all

What I mean is how does he match up in looks to the guy featured below in a head to head match to Americans who will make their decision who to vote for by the person who looks the best. I will not be one of those people, but to deny there are people who do is foolish.

Don

[ShaneGR]

58. LOL, I take it you voted no?

Gees, that was harsh!

[Zynx]

45. In that picture, no. Normally, absolutely yes.

FDR had pictures when he didn't look presidential. No hard feelings.

[ecstatic]

46. its time we found a new vision of what a President should look like

e.g. woman, minority, etc.

[Rowdyboy]

48. Of course it is-in the future

but that doesn't mean that we need to ignore the current candidate who, although male, walks, talks and behaves like a real president.

[MoonRiver]

51. Looks and IS presidential! Plus he's a liberal Democrat!!

Plus he has a huge chance of winning against His Lowness!!!

What more could we possibly want than, ta da:

GENERAL WES CLARK!!!!!

:kick: :party: :bounce: :kick: :party: :bounce:

[UTUSN]

52. Well, O.K., So Long as SOMEbody Beats Shrub n/t

[Pastiche423]

53. Maybe

as a repug president.

[Name removed]

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[WillyBrandt]

59. Ah, never thought of that!

I love the DU commentariat. Learn something new every day!

[janx]

57. This thread is hilarious and ridiculous.

For some reason, every time I repeat your question in my mind and look at that pic, I start laughing!

And I like Clark, but I think this thread might be a little over the top...

[NNN0LHI]

63. You may be right? This thread may be over the top?

Feel free to hit the alert. I trust and respect the moderators judgement much more than my own when it comes to these kinds of decisions.

Don

[janx]

68. I don't mean over the top in that way, don't worry.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

[qanda]

61. I LOVE that picture!

I was getting ready to post it when I found this thread. Absolutely perfect picture of a very Presidential-looking man.

[MoonRiver]

64. These poll numbers speak for themselves!

But I know it's probably a scam, cause we Clarkies are all recruiting from across the wide, wide world to pump up his DU presidential look poll numbers! :eyes:

[hedgetrimmer]

65. this guy looks,.. like a GENERAL! ... like a REPUBLICAN!

if he is looking presidential to anyone... may we all believe that depleted uranium bombs have no ill effects... thats what the general believes...

[mchaudry]

71. there are many more democrats in the miltary than you think

wes does NOT look like a general...lol have you seen the 35 or so generals in this country????????? wes is much more attractive than any of them and they know it! and so do you! lol

[hedgetrimmer]

89. there are many dems in the military, clark is not one of them...

clark looks like a general just like eisenhower did.....

[mchaudry]

93. get a grip the man voted for clinton and then al gore

if you are gonna have a point back it up with facts. sorry wes looks nothing like ike and if you really believed this i see why you are making unfounded statements.

wes is handsome. lol

[newyawker99]

98. Hi mchaudry!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Pastiche423]

72. Do you mean

like that innocent stuff he dropped on innocent men, women and children?

[NNN0LHI]

66. I don't think he looks any more Presidential...

...than several of the candidates. But they all look more Presidential than the Chimp.

Don

[ResistTheCoup]

75. My teenage son had the best line during the first debate

He looked at Gephardt (who I think is a great guy by the way) and said, "Who's that? He looks like a dirty Q-tip."

[AmericanDem]

69. The I's have it!

:kick:

[mchaudry]

70. ohh myyy goodnesss

that is one fine man. not only is he charming, smart, full of charisma and funny he is damned handsome. and i know handsome when i see it. ;-) looks like he could have posed for a older CK photo shot. this is one of his best yet! as a woman i love being attracted to an intelligent, strong man...who just happens to be the best candidate for president this country has. :-)

BTW howard is not handsome...he has a very unattractive mouth.

[creativelcro]

74. guys, listen to yourselves... You are talking about a PRESIDENT!

you'll never spend a minute with the president, you are not going to have nice dinners with him/her... He/she is somebody who's gonna make crucial decision about the future of your country. You don't hire your accountant based on his/her looks, right. Or the guy who's gonna fix your roof. You hire people who you believe can do a good job. In this thread I don't see simple trivia comments like "X has a nice nose"... You make it sound like "I love X's nose, therefore X is a winner and I'm gonna vote for this person"...

[janx]

76. That's why I'm laughing! I hate to say it, but some of the

women in this thread sound like the freeper housewives who drool over Chimpster photos every day online!

[Pastiche423]

90. Once

quite a number of years ago (in the early 70'), a friend wanted me to go to a Elvis concert. I moan and groaned since I was more of a Leon Russell kinda gal.

He told me the entertainment was watching the middle aged housewifes scream and cream for Elvis. I went and giggled until tears were streaming down my face and my tummy hurt.

That's what some women in this thread sound like to me.

[ResistTheCoup]

78. True, but my accountant doesn't have his mug all over the television and

newspapers like 'Dear Leader' does. I can't change the channel fast enough whenever that idiot even makes a fleeting appearance on the screen.

[janx]

80. My goodness! What's the matter with Chimpy in this pic?

There's something the matter with his pants and he seems to be staggering.

[Kahuna]

101. It's obvious. Chicken George peed his pants.

nt

[AntiCoup2K4]

102. Looks like even Junior didn't know he was going to Iraq...

...And when he found out, in mid air, he pissed himself :evilgrin:

[mchaudry]

94. please my stupid sister voted for bush cuz she thought he was nice!

anyway...i can speak for myself here to say i would never vote for a president because of his looks. but....if i get a great president, intelligent, strong, informed, diplomatic, strong in national security and economic policy and a democrat who just happens to be fine...well i won't complain!

he has what we women call "the yummy factor" and it's working for him lol :-)

[Kahuna]

100. Uh oh. Mom's mad.

:eyes:

[Kahuna]

99. Welcome to the Wes Wing!

:grouphug:

[TLM]

81. In fact, he looks like a slick corporate lobbyist turned politician.

Like this guy...

[Kinkistyle]

82. He looks like a "Velociraptor" from Jurassic Park

In that picture, he has steely, almost-reptilian eyes (battle-hardened?) that bely a keen, cunning intelligence, and chiseled, angular features. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing. In any event, its better than looking like a chimp. All I know is I don't want to be on the receiving end of a Clark "attack" ;)

[dawgman]

83. What the hell does a president look like?

He's definitely got the upper middle aged white guy down pat.

[elperromagico]

84. Looks far better there

with his eyes slightly more closed than we usually see. He doesn't have that "deer-in-the-headlights" look he seems to have in so many other shots.

[VermontDem2004]

86. Hell No

Martin Sheen looks Presidential, Bill Clinton looked Presidential, none of the candidates besides Braun is Presidential. She is courterous in every event, she has great ideas to fix this country, and so much more, she would probaly make the best President of the bunch but we don't always get our wishes.

[WindRavenX]

88. That's the man that gives Karl Rover nightmares

...and for good reason.
I'm liking Clark more and more, not because of his looks, but because he has that aura of an actual PRESIDENT.
Chimpy McChimp has the aura of a tired, confused drunkard.

[HuckleB]

91. Look?

Where?

[FrenchieCat]

92. Over there

[bearfartinthewoods]

103. i hate to say this but you asked.........

he has bush's eyes and mouth. everytime isee him, i see bush.

[moz4prez]

106. you can't be SERIES

the mouth? maybe; i can see that. but the eyes? Bush's are small, close-set, rather dull. Clark's got HUGH eyes that are well-placed, and he has a tendency to stare. Also Bush's eyelids constantly flutter whenever he's caught on camera, while Clark, it has been argued, never ever blinks.

[Kahuna]

108. Let's see. Wes has large soulfoul eyes. Bush has small..

beady eyes and no lips.....


Guess again.

[Jack_Dawson]

104. Almost as Presidential as Lieberman

Just kidding. Lieberman is a right-wing elf whose sole purpose is to provide fodder for GOP ads next spring. He needs to do the right thing and drop out.

General Wesley Clark is a God and the right-wingers know it. They are very frightened...just ask my republican friends.

[redqueen]

107. Oh Sweet Jesus, deliver me

Okay, first off... sure, he looks like a person who might be a president. (That's what 'presidential' is supposed to mean, right?)

HOWEVER, he does not look like someone I'd 'want to have a beer with', and that's what we need to counter, if we're to subscribe to the mind-numbingly stupid criteria you're using, right?

I mean, I believe that if you think something is wrong, then you don't do it. If you think something is wrong, but then you say, 'well, all these other people do it, so we have to do it, too, or we'll lose', then IMO you're not only subscribing to the same mind-numbingly stupid behavior, but you're fostering it, furthering it.

So, on the pretense that we're going to go ahead and play by the stupid rules, and say that how someone looks is a really important thing, then we must also consider that whether they're perceived as 'nice' also means a lot.

I mean, seriously, how 'handsome' was Nixon? Get me? People vote for who they like, and Clark doesn't strike me as 'likeable'. Maybe it's his shifty eyes, or his plastic-looking hair. Whatever it is, he doesn't have the 'want to have a beer with' criterion down pat, so don't start counting any chickens yet.

Oh, and have I mentioned today how much I fear for the future of the human race?

:puke: