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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:24 PM
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My theory about Zell Miller's recent defection
I could be completely wrong about this, but I have developed a theory about Miller's recent defection to the Dark Side: He's hedging his bets. He thinks Bush will win next year and he wants to be on the "winning team," perhaps believing there's something in it for him. This is also why I think a lot of people backed Bush in 2000 and again for next year, basically just because they smell a winner, not because they believe deeply in him or anything like that. Everyone likes to back a winner.

I live in NYC and my appreciation of Zell Miller and my grasp of him as a politician and as a human being is simply that of some dick I see on television too often. Anyone who has additional information to either support or debunk my claim is encouraged to elucidate me, because prior to this recent epiphany I had, my entire understanding of Miller's defection was summed up in the phrase "Because he's an asshole." I should probably try to understand what other factors are at work here.
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:29 PM
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1. I think it's simply because Zell has always backed the GOP.
He voted 100% of the time with the GOP but he was allowed to remain in our party. He's a treasonous bastard that we should not have backed.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:38 PM
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8. Was he ever a Dem in the true sense?
Has he cast any votes in his history that would explain his party affiliation? Opposition to the capital gains tax cut? Refusal to recognize ketchup as a vegetable? Anything?
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:49 PM
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11. Zell gave us plenty of signs that he was not of our ilk.
We chose instead to ignore them.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 02:21 AM
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14. Campaign Finance
He strongly backed McCain-Feingold and even said he thought it didn't go far enough. That was probably the last time he stood solidly with the Democrats.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:30 PM
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2. Zell MILLER Shoud Eat Shit and Die n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:32 PM
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3. Or maybe the BFEE has some compromising photos.
Given the stuff we know about how these "politicians" operate, I wonder if some of our Democrats are not being blackmailed. Nothing else seems to make a lot of sense. Why would Zell, at this stage of his career, care about being on the winning side? I mean he's secure in his seat. Or maybe he's looking for a job with the administration in 2004 :shrug:

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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:34 PM
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5. Or maybe he's looking for a job with the administration in 2004
That was along the lines of what I was thinking. Occum's razor, baby!
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 03:18 AM
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17. I think so too
He's not running for Senate, so wants a cushy job after the elections. Damn sellout.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:32 PM
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4. Sellout Zell will not be running for the senate so he will be available
to work with Bush's second administration. Most likely he will be appointed as the "Democrat" on a bi-partisan commission.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:35 PM
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6. I suspect...
There is an ambassadorship waiting for Ol' Zell. Considering the grey matter he has to work with, and the social skill set, I suspect it will be somewhere like Tierra del Fuego.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:37 PM
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7. Heh heh
He'll be ambassador to the Prussian consolate in the Belgian Congo.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:41 PM
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9. Meanwhile, his ambassadorship will be campaigning for the Chimp.
Edited on Sun Nov-30-03 11:42 PM by oasis
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:47 PM
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10. Miller was once lauded by the Dems for something
years ago, but I don't recall what.

As if it matters now that he's such a terrific fan of President Booger-picker and his coterie of evildoers.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:53 PM
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12. Miller is an astonishing mystery
In 1992 he gave a great Keynote for Clinton and as Governor of Georgia he did a better than average job. He tried but failed to change the flag, he instituted some great programs for education, has been good on race, and was, for the South, a good statewide Democrat. Now he is just awful and there really is no excuse. He isn't running for anything, he is unlikely to get an appointment from Bush due to his age, and he seems to just want to retire. I have no clue what happened.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 01:54 AM
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13. the 92 Keynote speech.
The point about the 92 speech..They say leopards don't change their spots...Miller's 92 speech set a really populist tone as I recall.
Such change is not possible without some kind of epihany or sell out.
Going repug could not be classified as an epihany... Epihany means some kind of nirvana expereince. So that leaves a sell out, but why..He is not running anything.
Anyone recall his 92 Demo. Convention speech..?
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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 02:26 AM
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16. His book
He's selling the dem's out to get publicity for this piece of shit.

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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 02:25 AM
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15. HE JUST HAD A BOOK PUBLISHED that's why
He knows democrats ain't gonna buy it and repukes will buy in droves if he trashes democrats in it.
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:23 AM
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18. Hmm, explain the actions of a
southern conservative Democrat to someone from NYC?

Do you want that bridge to have 2 lanes or 4 lanes? :evilgrin:


A couple of people have pointed out that he has a book out now. You might not want to buy it, but you should read it, if you want to understand his actions.

I can tell you his endorsement of Bush for 2004 boils down to two words. National Security. Debate it till the cows come home, but that is his stated reason.

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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:33 AM
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19. Zell made it official?
How’d I miss that?
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