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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:28 AM
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Krugman writes about BBV
Excellent...

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/opinion/02KRUG.html?pagewanted=print&position=

Inviting Bush supporters to a fund-raiser, the host wrote, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." No surprise there. But Walden O'Dell — who says that he wasn't talking about his business operations — happens to be the chief executive of Diebold Inc., whose touch-screen voting machines are in increasingly widespread use across the United States.

For example, Georgia — where Republicans scored spectacular upset victories in the 2002 midterm elections — relies exclusively on Diebold machines. To be clear, though there were many anomalies in that 2002 vote, there is no evidence that the machines miscounted. But there is also no evidence that the machines counted correctly. You see, Diebold machines leave no paper trail.

Representative Rush Holt of New Jersey, who has introduced a bill requiring that digital voting machines leave a paper trail and that their software be available for public inspection, is occasionally told that systems lacking these safeguards haven't caused problems. "How do you know?" he asks.

What we do know about Diebold does not inspire confidence. The details are technical, but they add up to a picture of a company that was, at the very least, extremely sloppy about security, and may have been trying to cover up product defects.

more...
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:38 AM
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1. Yes, but nothing new in terms of content yet.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:41 AM
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2. But, a lot of people read Krugman...
... even people who hate what he has to say. If they start dissing him on this issue, then it becomes more apparent to ordinary people that the radical right doesn't care how they win. If they don't or agree with him, that's more ammunition to go after the intractables in Congress who won't sign onto supporting legislation that will help.

Cheers.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:42 AM
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3. yet it will be under a microscope from now on
and that is imporetant in and of itself.

as krugman pointed out in his column, perhaps had the 2000 florida program to remove "alleged" felons from voting rolls been more known, it might not have happened.

a shout out to bev harris on this one.

she did a great job to get this on the radar.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:45 AM
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4. I love Krugman!
I really do... Let's see his next column on BBV...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:01 AM
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6. awesome. I hope people send letters to the NY TIMES to...
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 01:10 AM by Eric J in MN
keep up the attention.

The letters could emphasize HR 2239 and/or that companies such as Avante International Technology already make touchscreen machines which produce paper ballots.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:03 AM
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7. Missing the point!
Krugman, in the NY Times, is the
most prominent place the diebold
vote fabrication machines have been reported.
This is huge.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:14 AM
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8. True. Silly, but true.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:57 AM
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5. Our own Bev Harris in Krugman!
Go Bev!

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