Are Liberals losing the college campuses, too?

[Liberator_Rev]

<http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2003/11/30/god_on_the_quad/>

New England's liberal college campuses have become fertile ground for the evangelical movement, which is attracting students in record numbers. But after they graduate, will they keep the faith?

By Neil Swidey, Globe Staff, 11/30/2003

By the time Liberals wake up to the fact that "Liberals Like Christ" were the answer to the Religious Right, it will probably be too late to do anything about it. Although we have gotten SOME support for DU'ers, we've gotten at least as much antagonism, and a hell of a lot of apathy.

Meanwhile, the Religious Right has been regrouping and consolidating their strength; and the best that Liberals can do is either hide their heads in the sand, (ignoring, for example, the huge part the Roman Catholic hieararchy is playing in the Religious Right), or complain, AFTER each Conservative nail is driven into our coffin.



at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org .

See what Christ might say about the "Christian Coalition" & "Religious Right" imposters.

[JailBush]

1. Are you suggesting liberals should fight the Christian Right by becoming

Christians? If so, should they also become liars, crooks, chickenhawks, assassins and all around assholes?

[Rainbowreflect]

2. First comparing Christians to liar, crooks, chicken hawks, etc

does liberals no good.
There are many, many people out there who are Christians and liberal, but because of attacks & insults from many on the left the will vote repub. We need to show them that Dems are the party that live Christ's teachings whether you personally believe or not.

[StClone]

11. I am Christian

But I am not offended by JailBush's message because being "Consevative Christian" nowadays means talking the talk and and the hell with the rest of you'all. Bush is exactly that way as are many Republican OTHERWISE they wouldn't be Republicans.

[HFishbine]

16. He wasn't

comparing Christians to liars and crooks. He was comparing the right to liars and crooks.

[Droopy]

3. I don't think the Rev is recruiting here

He is only saying that Christians should be liberals and not conservatives according to the teachings of Christ. Even though I'm an atheist, I agree with him. I'm not holding my breath waiting on everybody to become liberal atheists.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. BINGO! We need to balance these right wing bigots who have...

perverted Christs name and message in the name of their extreme political goals.

[youngred]

19. The Rev is always recruiting

[Liberator_Rev]

15. NO ! Just check out the web site http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/

and you'll see that I say to CHRISTIANS : "If you want to CLAIM to be Christians, then follow Christ and become a "Liberals Like Christ", and I say to LIBERALS: "If you ever want to get out of the desert (and/or avoid the pending Concentration Camps) then enable those Christians who are "Liberals Like Christ" to win the argument among the 75% or so of American voters who identify themselves as "Christian" that followers of Christ should be LIBERAL DEMOCRATS, not arogant, lying, greedy Republican tyrants.

at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org .

See what Christ might say about the "Christian Coalition" & "Religious Right" imposters.

[minkyboodle]

5. Its not only evangelicals taking over

It seems to me that movements like those Young Conservative of TX (bakesale assholes) and such are gaining rapidly. In the couple universities I've been to (University of VA, LSU) the Poli Sci departments that I experienced were dominated by conservatives taking over class discussions and I think that liberal profs are beginning to become afraid to correct or disagree with these blowhards. This is hardly a scientific view, instead one based on personal experience but I can't help feeling that there may be a larger trend going on.
Scott

[PROGRESSIVE1]

9. Young Conservatives of Texas are NAZI wanabees!

:puke:

[Droopy]

6. I see what you are saying on my campus

I have been approached by a Christian and a Republican to come and join them, but I've heard no mention from a Democrat. I've heard no talk about politics amongst the kids outside of the classrooms. There seems to be a lot of apathy especially amongst a group of people who are just coming of age to vote for the first time.

[Ksec]

7. The problem will always go back to abortion

We are the party that favor abortion and its the main reason alot of religous people are against us. How are we gonna fight this?

[JVS]

8. Convince people that pregnancy is really demonic posession

;-)

[youngred]

21. convince them that the issue should be framed in terms of prevention

and responsible sexual education programs and providing cheap and effective contraception to those who are sexually active instead of being morally arrogant and insisting on a failed policy of abstinence only

[wuushew]

10. logic and reason

Remind them that the number of abortions decreased during Clinton's two terms and the gains in saving life he won are being wiped out by brutal right-wing class warfare and Amerikan imperialism.

[Liberator_Rev]

14. See http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/ChristianChoice

When I say that "Liberals Like Christ" are the answer to the "Religious Right", people can't imagine that to be true because we don't have millionaire backers to give us a national TV presence like the PTL Club,the 700 Club, the Hour of Power, etc., etc.,

If poor Liberals like YOU don't shout it from the roof tops, and I am the only one saying it, nobody will hear and or believe it.

[blm]

22. I don't think this is abortion driven. I think it's 9-11 driven.

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[1songbird]

12. You know you have touched on something very important.

Within the Repuglican party there are non-Christians, aetheist and the like but you don't hear non-believers ostracizing the religious right. This is because they know their survival as a party depends on these fundies. That is not the case unfornately within our party. For some reason the non-believers don't realize that we are a key constiuent and it is in their best interest to keep us instead of antagonizing us. Now I'm sure that probably angered some but the truth is the truth. I'm sick of hearing comments like the one above comparing Christians to liars and the such.

[izzie]

13. Must we go back to the 1600? Can not we be grown ups?

We have been in this battle before and the best way was to live and let live.Let the church people do their thing and keep then out of the govt.making their silly rules. Church and state do not mix.

[Liberator_Rev]

17. Who's going to enforce your interpretation on everybody, Izzy?

No matter HOW you interpret the rules, Izzy, neither YOU nor anybody else is going to force religious people to set aside their beliefs when it comes to politics. In THIS Democracy, they are guaranteed the right to think as they please when it comes to religion and politics AND HOW THEY CHOSE TO MIX THEM in their own hearts and minds.

For a better understanding of what the "Separation of Church and State" means when it comes to campaigning and voting (AS OPPOSED TO GOVERNING), see http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/ChurchState .

[youngred]

18. Yes they are

but it isn't necessarily a question of Evangelicals. Gen Y grew up in a time of great prosperity and more than any generation before it has become and addict to the TV and commercialism. They need the newest overpriced from GAP and the latest Brittney CD. If they have an opinion it is from the barest tidbits they happen to hear on the news which leaves many of them biased towards the conservatives. Liberal professors are afraid to speak their opinion lest they be called ivory tower liberals and harassed. With the Young Republican's in Texas making a list of biased professors I can't really blame them. The evangelicals are making some headway but for the most part they are laughed at.

The actions of the evangelicals on campus are usually ignored or laughed at because most of these kids could care less about religion than they do about politics. If they are strongly religious it is from their parents, not themselves. As always though Ray you can't post anything without getting a dig in at the Catholic Church. You take a pressing issue before the left and turn it into just another sales pitch for your website...sad really

[blm]

20. 9-11 was a defining moment for many young lives.

The sooner we Democrats realize that the better.

[arewethereyet]

23. the short answer is yes

but not for the stated reason. Its not just spirituality. We're not giving them the answers that they want. This applies more to those closig in on graduation (looking for jobs) than just entering into college life. They like Edwards though.