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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:00 PM
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What's the latest on the DoJ investigation into leak of Valerie Plame's
name? I have been doing some searching and can't find much of anything more recent than October (October 7 was the original deadline for the WH to turn over materials to the DoJ) but what is happening with this issue?
Anyone know anything??
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:10 PM
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1. nothing happening

where`s saddam? where`s bin boy? anthrax killer? move on,nothing to see
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:11 PM
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2. Who is Valerie Plame?
And what leak are you talking about? I don't understand :shrug:
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:12 PM
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3. Exactly.
That's what the American public is saying right now.
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:24 PM
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4. argggh
I guess outing our covert operatives during wartime is SOP to the GOP - as long as it serves their interests (revenge).
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:59 PM
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15. Here is the story - there's a TRAITOR in the White House
Somehow George Bush is unable to find the TRAITOR who committed a FELONY by disclosing the name of a covert CIA agent to the press in an act of revenge against her husband, a whistleblower. This TRAITOR is STILL working in the White House.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/22/politics/22LEAK.html

Ashcroft Briefed Regularly on Inquiry Into C.I.A. Leak
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: October 22, 2003

WASHINGTON, Oct. 21 — Attorney General John Ashcroft's top aides have regularly briefed him on key details in the investigation into the disclosure of a C.I.A. officer's identity, including the identities of those interviewed by the F.B.I., a senior Justice Department official told members of Congress on Tuesday.

Mr. Ashcroft's regular, detailed briefings suggest that he has taken a more hands-on role in the politically charged investigation than the department had acknowledged. Senate Democrats said the arrangement threatened to compromise the independence of the investigation, a contention that Justice Department officials rejected.

<snip>

But Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said he was troubled to learn from Mr. Wray at Tuesday's hearing that the attorney general is receiving regular reports on the status of the inquiry and has been told whom the F.B.I. is interviewing. Mr. Schumer said the attorney general's close personal and political ties to the White House pose a potential conflict if Mr. Ashcroft knows the White House officials investigators plan to interview.

"When the line prosecutors know that the attorney general knows what they are doing, it could hamper their independence," Mr. Schumer said in an interview. "It means someone is watching over them, and that's not what we want in a case like this. It has a chilling effect, and it makes the case for Ashcroft recusing himself stronger." <more>

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/22/opinion/22FRYE.html

Let Someone Else Do the Talking
By ALTON FRYE
Published: October 22, 2003

WASHINGTON — In the latest debate over leaks of classified information, wisdom begins with a distinction: leaks elicited by a reporter while investigating a story often serve the public interest — and merit the journalist's protecting the identity of that source. Leaks initiated by self-serving antagonists in the political process — and calculated to exploit journalists as convenient mouthpieces — rarely serve the public interest and deserve less protection.

Most journalists are properly wary of the second type of leak, and often decline to publish them. That was true, it appears, for some members of the news media who received calls regarding Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife, an undercover C.I.A. officer. Other journalists, as we now know, decided to act on the leak and disclose the identity of Ms. Plame. The Justice Department is investigating the case, and said last week that it hadn't ruled out subpoenaing reporters in order to find the source of the leak.

Yet journalists are dissuaded from naming sources of all kinds by both ethical considerations and pragmatic concerns over future access. This creates a situation in which a devious leaker is shielded by the journalist's ethical restraint — and derives de facto constitutional shelter under the reporter's First Amendment privilege.

Is there a cure for this problem? Yes: call it counterleaking. To protect against such manipulative behavior — and to discipline those who practice it — reporters could themselves assume the status of confidential sources and share those names with other journalists. <more>

Alton Frye is the presidential senior fellow and counselor at the Council on Foreign Relations.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/22/opinion/22BOOT.html

Full Disclosure on Leaks
By ROBERT BOOTH
Published: October 22, 2003

WASHINGTON — Secrets are created every day in the federal government: when National Security Agency personnel create codes, when C.I.A. case officers talk to their spies, when F.B.I. agents speak to their sources, when the Joint Chiefs of Staff discuss troop movements. When these secrets are revealed to the press, it is known as a leak. Not all leaks are created equal, however. Just as the motives for leaking differ, so do the consequences of a leak.

<snip>

The most serious kind of leak is the unauthorized disclosure of national security information. Robert Novak's revelation that the wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson was a C.I.A. "operative" falls into this category. Mr. Novak's source, by revealing the wife's name without approval from the C.I.A., has potentially compromised national security.

There are two main reasons unauthorized disclosures occur. One is to undermine the administration; the other is to silence a critic. All unauthorized disclosures are committed by people who ultimately wish to influence outcomes, events and opinions. In addition to endangering national security interests, such disclosures also subject their sources to prosecution.

We do not yet know how much damage was caused by Robert Novak's column about Mr. Wilson. But we do know that as long as there is a federal government, leaks will continue — and that people who substitute their personal judgment for their sworn oaths are leading America down a very slippery slope.

Robert Booth, who was a special agent in the State Department for 29 years, is writing a book about leaks and unauthorized disclosures.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11208-2003Sep27.html

Bush Administration Is Focus of Inquiry
CIA Agent's Identity Was Leaked to Media
By Mike Allen and Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, September 28, 2003; Page A01

At CIA Director George J. Tenet's request, the Justice Department is looking into an allegation that administration officials leaked the name of an undercover CIA officer to a journalist, government sources said yesterday.

The operative's identity was published in July after her husband, former U.S. ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, publicly challenged President Bush's claim that Iraq had tried to buy "yellowcake" uranium ore from Africa for possible use in nuclear weapons. Bush later backed away from the claim.

The intentional disclosure of a covert operative's identity is a violation of federal law.

The officer's name was disclosed on July 14 in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak, who said his sources were two senior administration officials.

Yesterday, a senior administration official said that before Novak's column ran, two top White House officials called at least six Washington journalists and disclosed the identity and occupation of Wilson's wife. Wilson had just revealed that the CIA had sent him to Niger last year to look into the uranium claim and that he had found no evidence to back up the charge. Wilson's account touched off a political fracas over Bush's use of intelligence as he made the case for attacking Iraq.

"Clearly, it was meant purely and simply for revenge," the senior official said of the alleged leak.<more>

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:26 PM
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5. We'd like to know...
even more than about Trista and Ryan's wedding...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:27 PM
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6. Dead. In. Water.
But you're right, realFedUp. Larry King is tackling the ultra-tough issue of Trista and Ryan on tonight's installment.

sigh...
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:41 PM
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8. I have no idea who those people are..
should I?
:shrug:
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:50 PM
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13. Does Joe Wilson ring a bell?
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 05:50 PM by HFishbine
He went to Africa at the request of the CIA and came back with evidence to dispell Cheney's fabricated handiwork about Iraq trying to aquire uranium from Niger. His wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA operative and Robert Novak exposed her identity in a column attempting to discredit Wilson, citing "administration officials" as the source for Plame's identity.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:53 PM
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14. I didn't mean Joe Wilson...
am quite familiar with him and his wife. Trista and Ryan are the ones I've never heard of.
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BenZodiac Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:40 PM
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7. well
Didn't look very good that he went to work for the Kerry campaign. Turned it into a partisan thing, rather than an intelligence thing.


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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:44 PM
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10. A 'partisan thing'?
- How did you come to THAT conclusion? It's been proven that someone in the Bush* administration outed a covert CIA operative. This is a crime...a felony.

- It has nothing to do with what her husband did after the fact.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:43 PM
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9. The guys from the Anthrax investigation are following up on leads
You'll hear nothing about it because it's been buried.

Can't have any major figures going down when they commit treason.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:45 PM
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11. Yeah, they are following leads like OJ was looking for the
Real Killer.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:49 PM
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12. Why do you think the corporate media
is determined to bring down Kerry's campaign? Because the good guys in the intel community are lining up behind him, and including Joe Wilson who is on Kerry's team. That's why they only talk about Kerry as part of horserace stories but never about substantive issues or who is on Kerry's team and why they are there.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:22 PM
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16. It's all Dean's fault.
.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:23 PM
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17. No, it's not. But the media uses Dean to keep the focus off Kerry and his
team.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:29 PM
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18. Heinrich Ashcroft is on the job!
Translation: You have EXACTLY the same chance of seeing the Plame leaker found, let alone punished, as you had of Hitler finding the real person who burned down the Reichstag.

For the same reasons, too: One of the best benefits of ruling a Totalitarian Society (yes, yes, I know Imperial Amerika is not done transitioning into what it will become) is that you and your friends control all the law enforcement machinery of The State, which means that you and your friends can do damned near ANYTHING without fear of being caught.

Oh yeah, coincidentally enough, it is also the EXACT SAME CHANCE that we will see the Right-Wing Anthrx Assassin found.

0%. It's as in the bag as a Soviet or Imperial Amerikan National Election.
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