Lenora Fulani, Monica Moorehead, Howard Phillips, and Ezola Foster

[jiacinto]

Do they have any interesting ideas? What about John Hagelin?

[La_Serpiente]

1. Ezola Foster?

Who have you been looking up lately?

[JohnKleeb]

2. Patty Buchanan's VP dont ya know oh and Carlos on

Hagelin I think he has endorsed Kucinich or somethin and LaDuke's Nader's VP has done the same.

[HFishbine]

7. Did you know

If it weren't for Hagelin, Gore would have won Florida?

[JohnKleeb]

8. Nah I didnt

Are ya doing this in response to the many green threads today. I remember reading in Stupid White Men that Moore was "blaming" Monica Moorehead.

[HFishbine]

9. Naw

I was just doing it because it could be done. In reality, the votes from any other of the presidential canidates on the Florida ballot (there were nine) would have been enough to put Gore over.

[mobuto]

3. Howard Phillips? Interesting ideas?

Please never juxtapose those two concepts again.
Next to him, George W. Bush is the second coming of Jesus H. Christ. His Constitution Party is where people who consider the GOP to be Communist-infiltrated sellouts go to whine.

Lenora Fulani and Ezola Foster are rather sad jokes.

And Moorehead, Hagelin? What is this you're working on, an encylcopedia of the outer suburbs of the lunatic fringe? One's a neo-Stalinist and the other believes that if we can only get 60,000 people to medidate, all terrorism will end.

I think I'll keep on voting Democratic, thank you very much.

[jiacinto]

4. what do they look like

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[Andy_Stephenson]

10. Ummm lemme hazzard a guess...

People?

[AmericanLiberal]

5. I agree

In a system of simple plurality voting, pick one of the two parties or shut up.

[mobuto]

13. I agree, but recognize that some disagree

Because even if you do disagree, and want to support a third party, the folks that Carlos listed just are absolutely terrible.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

16. Hagelin is the Natural Law Party right?

I got accosed by some transients selling NLP literature in San Francisco once, they thought I was a college student. I swear they have a plank in their platform for federally insured massage medical care or somesuch, obviously an overt payback to the massage schools that prey on idealistic hippies with illusions of meaningful employment, and funnel that money to the Natural Law Party Machine.

They were smart enough to endorse Kucinich for President, which makes them 100% TIMES SMARTER than the Green party.

[ajacobson]

11. Fulani!

OMFG--just read a little about the New Alliance Party. A political cult. Cousins to LaRouche.

x(

[ldoolin]

12. Cult alert

Fred Newman has been running this little political cult called the International Workers Party (IWP) since the mid 1970s.

He uses his psychotherapy groups, called "Social Therapy", as fronts to recruit for his political organizations, and his political organizations as fronts to recruit for his Social Therapy groups. The IWP is an "underground" group whose members are required to sign all their life possessions over to Fred Newman in order to join.

The New Alliance Party which ran Lenora Fulani in the 1988 and 1992 elections was a Fred Newman/IWP front. They started a bogus group called the "Rainbow Lobby" and tried claiming affiliation with Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition to raise money for Newman. They tried alliances at various times with the gay/lesbian community, with Al Sharpton, and with Louis Farrakhan. In the mid 1990s they tried to take over the Reform Party, and they did succeed in taking over the New York Independence Party and the Patriot Party, two Reform Party-affiliated groups. Then they got involved with the Pat Buchanan campaign in 2000. Oh, lest I forget, Newman also had his entire group en masse join the National Caucus of Labor Committees (Lyndon LaRouche's organization) in 1974, then pull out after a few months after it became clear that Newman wouldn't be able to take over the LaRouche group.

Most recently they have aligned themselves with New York's Republican Party, including Michael Bloomberg and George Pataki. That ballot initiative that Bloomberg was pushing, the one to switch NYC to non-partisan elections, was a Newmanite/IWP initiative that they got Bloomberg to support in exchange for promising to throw the support of the Newmanite organization behind him in the future.

They are not about ideology at all, just all about raising money for Fred Newman's lavish lifestyle and gaining him access to the corridors of power. Every time they try to ally themselves with somebody, they either try to take over the group they are "allies" with, or else they just raise as much money as they can and then destroy the group as they leave. There is a trail of very pissed-off people from everything from the Reform Party to the Sharpton and Farrakhan organizations to peace and lesbian/gay groups, Jewish community groups, and even LaRouchies and Buchananites that the Newmanites have left in their wake. For this reason, it's probably for the best that the Newmanites are now aligned, at least for the moment, with the New York Republican Party. Just think of all the damage they can do there! :)

The one group that has, to our credit, never fallen for the Newmanites' slick infiltration tactics, is the Democratic Party.

Here's a good link where you can read all you want about them:
http://www.ex-iwp.org/

[ldoolin]

14. hmm...

Fulani: see my cult alert post.

Moorehead: Workers World Party if I recall, a tiny splinter party from the Socialist Workers Party. The SWP is Trotskyist but the WWP has swung back to an ultra-Stalinist position. They were the only party on the entire far left to defend the Caucescau regime in Romania and the Tienanmen Square massacre in China. They're fond of the North Korean government.

Phillips: Right wing whacko. He was one of the big "movement" conservatives back in the 1970s and 1980s who was part of the Reaganite coalition. Apparently he thinks the Republicans aren't right-wing whacko enough for him now. His political party is a haven for Operation Rescue types.

Foster: Never heard the name.

Hagelin: The answer to crime, the national debt, poverty, terrorism, and your dog's bad breath is for everyone to chant "Oom" and practice yogic flying. Flaky fringe politics at their most silly.

[NoPasaran]

19. Not that it really matters

But the SWP broke with "mainstream" Trotskyism during the 1980s and decided that Castro was the new model for the World Revolution.
The Marcyite Workers World Party broke off in the 1950s in support of the Soviet crushing of the Hungarian Uprising of 1956.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

15. I think I voted for Lenora Fulani once

All I knew is that she was a black woman and somehow a radical, so it seemed natural. It was my first election I think, don't remember what she was running for, maybe even President?

[jiacinto]

17. Ok

She ran in 1988, I think.

[htuttle]

18. I drove Hagelin and his VP candidate in my cab in '92

I took them from the airport to the Capitol building to deliver their ballot petitions.

They were....interesting. I wouldn't say 'practical', but interesting to talk to. Their platform was an odd combination of Transcendental Meditation and Quantum Physics principles. Honest.

But they tipped pretty well.