Howard Dean: Does that say enough?

[alexwcovington]

Poll question: Howard Dean: Does that say enough?

Have you already come to a conclusion on Dean?

[arewethereyet]

1. It really didn't take me long on the good Doctor

He's a good doctor and thats about it.

[alexwcovington]

2. Cool some undecideds

I thought they'd be hard to find ;) guess GD isn't 100% polarized hehe...

[Cha]

3. I just came from a Dean Meetup and there

were lots of People there for Dean and we all got petitions to take and ask People to sign so Dean can get on the New York Primary ballot on March 22, 2004! :)

[ryharrin]

11. Err, its the 2nd, not the 22nd.

I hope so at least, or I'll be there on the wrong day, and I'll miss my first chance to vote for Dean.

[alexwcovington]

4. kick

nt

[PSR40004]

5. He's the one

Hopefully he's the one, the war will be the issue in this race and Dean has the strongest position on it by far.

[mmonk]

6. generally like him

but still am undecided about him. Not sure of some of his campaign's tactics yet and don't know what the average person on the street thinks of him yet. Don't know how he'll hold up to the Rove attack machine or the flag waving they'll hit him over the head with as well as their tax mantra.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

7. Yes... I do not support Dean in the primary.

I am voting Kucinich.

If Kucinich drops out there are at least 4 others I would vote for before Dean. And if it comes down to Dean and a few choice remainders, then I have no interest in voting in the primary. At that point it really doesn't matter.

I am not basing my decision on the unknown electabilty factor or saying he is the same as Bush. Of course he is better than Bush, but so are my socks.

The reason for my concusion on Dean? Dean is dishonest. N.H. TV ad lie, social security age flap, campaign finance 'evoltuion', support of BL resolution and then ripping into others for 'supporting' the war. Those are just some. My dishonesty quotient is filled by Bush, do not need more.

If he is the eventual nominee, my motivation to leave my house and vote will not come from Dean or some ridiculous ABB agreement, but from the fact that the polling place is 50 feet across the street from my house.

TWL

[mb7588a]

8. Cheers to that, TWL.

:toast:

[ThirdWheelLegend]

12. missed my editing period.. and let me add this..

first off 'concusion' is 'conclusion' :)

Secondly I should reinforce that I dont buy into the Dean is unelectable bullshit. I think almost all of the dem candidates are electable. That is why I feel we have a chance to nominate someone who truly cares and wants to bring about change. I am tired of compromise and the status quo.



TWL

[FrenchieCat]

9. I do not trust Dean...he says one thing, then says another...

Dean has backtracked on a lot of issues...his support for a resolution was no different than Clark's......and he knows it, even if his supporters don't want to admit it.

Dean opted out of public financing, after he made an issue that no one should. Rational, needs to do it to beat Bush....but really did it to try to buy the nomination.

Dean criticized Bush admin for secrecy, but yet he's secretive himself. He challenges Bush to show him his, and he'll show him his...but two wrongs don't make a right. If you are like the enemy, than you are the enemy.

Dean prides himself on being a straight shooter.....yea, right!

BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT REALLY PISSED ME OFF:

first Dean is just "swell" with Clark....
2weeks later Dean backstabs!

September 11, 2003, Thursday
NATIONAL DESK
Dean Asks General to Join Him in Primaries, Aides Say
http://query.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F20815FA385F0C728DDDA00894DB404482
By JODI WILGOREN (NYT)
BURLINGTON, Vt., Sept. 10 -- After months of friendly discussions about national security and other issues, Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, asked Gen. Wesley K. Clark to join his presidential campaign in some capacity if General Clark decided against making the run himself, aides for both men said tonight.
''The governor's told him repeatedly that he should run if he wants,'' Joe Trippi, Dr. Dean's campaign manager, said at the campaign headquarters here. ''I'm sure that along the way the governor's made clear that we want General Clark's support if he decides not to run for president. I assume every other candidate has done the same thing.''
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Dr. Dean, whose summer surge has made him a focal point of the nine-person primary field, has often spoken fondly of General Clark, in public and among his friends and supporters. The two men are both darlings of the Internet, which spawned a Draft Clark movement and has been fertile ground for Dr. Dean's fund-raising success.

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SO ALL WAS HONKY DOREY, AND THEN THIS HAPPENED!

NATIONAL DESK | September 24, 2003, Wednesday
Dean Takes The Offensive In Comments On Clark
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0C16FD3C590C778EDDA00894DB404482
By JODI WILGOREN with EDWARD WYATT (NYT) 802 words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 25 , Column 1

ABSTRACT - Howard Dean, whose campaign for Democratic presidential nomination has been built on antiwar message, questions antiwar credentials of Gen Wesley K Clark, whom polls show at top of 10-member Democratic presidential field; intensifies attacks on Pres Bush, condemning his record on court appointments, race, education, domestic security and war on terrorism; photo (M)
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AND THEN THIS HAPPENED, BECAUSE DEAN DOESN'T KNOW WHEN TO STOP!

[ShaneGR]

10. Sort of, I like him but I have doubts on his ability to beat Bush

I think the way he's been framed could be a big liability during the General election.

Like I said, I like him but I have worries.