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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:04 PM
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Ellen Mariani (RICO Suit against W*) on Malloy this hour (10 pm EST)
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 10:05 PM by Mika
www.mikemalloy.com

Suit here,
http://nancho.net/911/mariani.html
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:06 PM
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1. this ought to be good....
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:09 PM
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2. She's on now
n/t
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:14 PM
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3. The lawyer talking now.

"they protected the airlines, not the citizens."
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:18 PM
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4. kick
:kick:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:21 PM
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5. Damn... On 9-11, She Was On Her Way To Her Daughter's Wedding...
in California.

She was stranded there for 4 days while the Bin Ladens were given an executive plane ride out of the country!

:grr::nuke::mad::puke:
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ripplingwater Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:24 PM
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6. Patriot Act II?
I heard that they were sticking pieces of PAII into various bills, but he just said the passed Patriot Act II. WTF? Anyone know about this?
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Tharesa Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:51 PM
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22. An evil act for every patriot.
Tharesa hope that PA III will not kill remaining Patriots. Too many have died already! :cry:
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Jaybird Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:26 PM
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7. only online?
can this only be listened to online?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:28 PM
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9. Either That, Or Sirius Satellite Radio, Or...
One of the few remaining radio stations in the country with the balls to carry Mike!

Makes me mad.

:mad:
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:54 AM
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44. Yes. Download it from www.whiterosesociety.org
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 01:01 AM by caledesi
The nightly shows can be downloaded usually within an hour of when they end.

edit: url was wrong...org not com
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:26 PM
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8. Mike just played a clip of w babbling about 9-11.
It sounded like one of Mike's lampoons.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:31 PM
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10. I hope he ask them about his TRIFECTA quote ---------------- MP3


June 14, 2002
Remarks by the President in Texans for Rick Perry Reception
Hyatt Regency Hotel
Houston, Texas
6:09 P.M. CDT
<clip>
You know, when I was one time campaigning in Chicago, a reporter said, would you ever have a deficit? And I said, I can't imagine it, but there would be one if we had a war, or a national emergency, or a recession. (Laughter.) Never did I dream we'd get the trifecta. (Laughter.)
<clip>
<http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020614-8.html>

http://globalfreepress.com/mp3/trifecta.mp3

more...
http://globalfreepress.com/trifecta/

peace
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:34 PM
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13. YOU CALLED IT BP !!!
They played the quote, and are talking about it now!!!

:hi:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:39 PM
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17. this show should be heard by EVERY american - everyone else knows BK!
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 11:05 PM by bpilgrim


:hi:

peace
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:35 PM
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14. he's ASKING!!!
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 10:38 PM by bpilgrim
and kathy played the MP3 :bounce:

thanks :toast: :loveya:

peace
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:31 PM
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11. These Folks Are Very Brave, And Very Gracious !!!
They've told Mike several times, at each break, that they'd stay and talk as long as Mike wants.

Too bad we can't get that same consideration from our 'important' leaders.

:argh:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:32 PM
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12. My heart is breaking for this poor woman
Let's hope she succeeds in getting to the truth.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:41 PM
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18. Did she sound believable? Not someone who could be compromised?
I missed getting onto Malloy, and can't do it now, but I'm very interested in this (as all DU'ers) but worried she can be compromised as just a "nut case."
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:44 PM
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19. No !!! Her And Her Attorney Sound Very Reasonable, Very Legit !!!
Down to earth, pragmatic, and wanting answers. They would just like the government to prove them wrong.

:shrug:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:50 PM
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21. Listening to her and the lawyer, I don't think so.
But they are mortal and thereby in peril from BFEE. :scared:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:52 PM
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23. No, she wants answers
just like we're entitled to..Why should we settle for the BS that this administration is trying to pass off?! Look at the BS turkey day event..Please...Let's do ALL we can to get this information out, and as they just said, there are people out there who KNOW something and saw something...PLEASE call Mike Malloy, atty Phil Berg, or Mrs Mariani..We need the truth and let justice prevail. Time for these liars to be put where they belong. If you were Mrs Mariani, would you settle for the BS that they've been fed? Plus, they've tried to pay off, hush money, these families to say nothing, don't ask questions. BS!!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:56 PM
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27. When they offered her money
shortly after 9/11, she turned it down, calling it "shut up" money.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:53 PM
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36. That's right..
I don't blame her for wanting answers..I'm sure the other families are following this closely.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:58 PM
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28. she sounds like my mom
which could be anybody's mom ie. very genuine, indeed and INFORMED :bounce:

peace
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:36 PM
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15. Kick
:kick:
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:38 PM
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16. radio show
listen to a audio interview on Alex Jones show (41min)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/120403mariani.html

great stuff, they need our support. their website will be up soon. they want donations of $9.11

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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:54 PM
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25. My very conservative (as in *real conservative, non-neocon*)
friend is a fan of Alex Jones. Despite our political leanings, we find quite a few things to agree on, so when he told me about Alex, and I was interested, he was thrilled!LOL! Alex will be in Houston next weekend, so I am going to go see his film, "911: The Road to Tyranny," and he'll do an intro and take questions after the film. Should be interesting stuff!
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:57 PM
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38. Houston?
Where can I find some info on this?
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:35 AM
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43. Alex Jones in Houston info.....
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:49 PM
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20. Holy shit, He's talking LIHOP!
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:53 PM
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24. As he said,
he's received info from around the world on this..and there's MORE info to come..
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:54 PM
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26. They're starting to talk MIHOP
Saying they don't believe those 19 alleged hijackers were responsible. Stay tuned.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:57 AM
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45. Take a look at her actual suit (PDF) file.
Go to: http://nancho.net/911/mariani.html and take a look at the PDF file of the actual suit. It's 60 pages, but the salient issues begin on page 30.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:02 PM
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29. Did anyone catch
what the caller, Darrell was saying about a form employees w/American (?) Airlines had to sign regarding 9/11?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:07 PM
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31. a shut up form so they wouldn't talk to the PRESS
something like that... i think

peace
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:03 PM
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30. What does anyone think of that caller from Detroit??
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 11:06 PM by steviet_2003
I know he didn't have any details but what he said about American Airline employees being forced to sign papers saying they wouldn't reveal some sort of damning evidence really sent a chill up my spine and piqued my interest.

Any airline employees or relatives of employees here know anything about that? Not asking for details necessarily cuz I don't want any DUers in trouble but just, did this sort of thing actually occur??

on edit: I'm with ya Pastiche. I missed Darrell's name but caught he was from Detriot. It sounded like someone told him this in a forum or message board anonymously.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:17 PM
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33. This was the 1st I'd heard of it
but Mrs. Mariani seemed to know exactly what he was talking about.

Also, I heard only recently about the papers Jeb flew out of the country. Anyone have more info?
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:33 PM
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34. Yeah, me too.
That's why I was looking for confirmation from some DUer who may know more.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:55 PM
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37. I think
Darryl knows more than what he said...he might have been "testing" the waters, and might be afraid for himself.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:22 AM
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41. I agree
he sounded scared to me.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:13 PM
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32. Jeb Bush
took the flight records from the school in Florida and destroyed or sent them out of the country? Did I hear that right?:eyes:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:39 PM
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35. Hieronymous And Pastiche423... Check Here (Question #7):
<snip>

7. Why did your brother Jeb (the Governor of Florida) go to the offices of the Hoffman Aviation School and order that flight records and files be removed? These files were then put on a C130 government cargo plane and flown out of the country. Where were they taken and who ordered it done?

<snip>

From: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0311/S00262.htm

Having to do with: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0311/S00262.htm

I've been trying to find out where they got this as well. Mike asked about it, but didn't ask where they got this from. Damn!!!

Anybody, anybody...???

:shrug:
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:02 AM
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40. I first heard about this in a Daniel Hopsicker article at madcowprod.com
Hopsicker makes the claim that the records from the flight school were seized by the local police and then the FBI came in and had them loaded onto a C130 and flown away. However there is no mention of the destination of the C130 being overseas.


From the article Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circusby investigative journalist Daniel Hopsicker


Within hours of the September 11 attack authorities concluded that the terrorist pilots had shown such unusual skill in maneuvering commercial airliners toward their targets that at least one hijacker on each jet must have been trained right here in the U.S.

They were right.

Cut to Venice, Florida. Middle of the night.

The FBI swarms. Local police do the grunt work. Under bright klieg lights they carry away boxes upon boxes of records from Rudi Dekkers flight school.

<snip>

"The FBI took all our files, everything," said one local law enforcement official, after shaking his head ruefully when we asked if Rudi had any local ‘priors.’

He shrugs. He can’t tell. His files are now All Gone.

"They loaded two Ryder trucks right outside that (police station) window, then drove them right onto a C130 military cargo plane at Sarasota airport which flew out with Jeb Bush aboard."


http://www.madcowprod.com/index9.html
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:38 AM
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46. Thanks JC !!!
Appreciate the info. And have dabbled thru Hopsicker's site before. But...

:argh:

I was gonna say something to the effect that we 'ought to get verification on that'. Ya know, with links to trusted journalistic sources??? Cause we don't wanna look like we've gone over the deepend when it comes to our own veracity.

But then...

:mad:

K... Just gonna lay me down to sleep. Cause y'all wouldn't believe the philisophical wierdness I was treated
to tonight.



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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #32
39. Sure did...
another dangerous one..Only in FL..drugs, oil, and....
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:27 AM
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42. Vote recount
I was searching the DU archives last night for the days leading up to and including 9/11. What I didn't realize is that the Florida recount was supposed to be released that month.

This is what I've found so far ..
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/sep2001/nyt-s25.shtml
..snip..
In a column that enthusiastically welcomes the dissolution of all political opposition in Washington in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks, Berke writes: “Until September 11, the capital was riding a historically partisan period, with leading Democrats still portraying their president as ‘appointed’ by the Supreme Court. In a move that might have stoked the partisan tensions—but now seems utterly irrelevant—a consortium of new organizations, including The New York Times, had been scheduled this week to release the results of its ambitious undertaking to recount the Florida presidential ballots. (That has been put on hold indefinitely).”

In other words, the Times and its counterparts in the consortium have decided to conceal from the American people facts damaging to the Bush administration’s claims to political legitimacy. They are doing so for the express purpose of suppressing dissent and bolstering the president as he prepares to take the American people into war and makes sweeping attacks on their civil liberties.
..snip.. con't

He hit more than a Trifecta on this one ..

Didn't hear the show. Did they talk about her assuring her safety?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #42
47. I was here at DU then and yes....9/11 Did wipe out the Florida Vote Count
report. It was delayed and then lost down "memory hole" although many DU'ers spent alot of time posting about it.

So many of us then thought the report would show that Chimp was NOT elected and our hopes of any fair reporting died with 9/11. The vote recount might have gotten more coverage and our Dems in Congress might have had more "spine" if 9/11 and the Anthrax scare hadn't come right on
top of each other. Those events made Shrub P-Resident and no one could critize him after that. Was it "hand of fate" or LIHOP or MIHOP....I hope we find out soon.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 04:19 PM
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48. maybe
they dropped the ballots in the ocean with the aviation records.
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