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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:10 PM Original message |
My big gripe with Howard Dean is his tax policy, which would lose general. |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. if you're not Rove, you'll realize that Dean is not raising taxes |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I know that most middle-class people got a very minor |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. it's not a tax increase tho |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Reversing Bush's tax cuts means raising taxes. |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. that's the GOP argument in a nutshell |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. So his point is incorrect because the GOP make it? |
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polpilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Lay down that bunt Bro man!!! |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. i didn't say that |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. That's your 'argument' after prefacing it with |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Since your "I hate him" comment... |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. I'm sorry, saying 'I hate Dean' is sick? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Heh. I figured you'd use that comparison. |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Let's see. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Refer to this: |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. LOL |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Yep 27% are useless IMO. |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. no it isn't, the tax cuts will be law, and an increase will be a new law |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. deal with budget problems/deficits/states aid first |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Voters will support a raise taxes, but not on the middle class |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Most polls support this |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY INTO ANY LIE, RAISE THE TOP 2 PERCENT |
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Justice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Please provide Link to Polls |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. We don't have to accept it, but we can't fully deny it, either. |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. you make the best appeal to rational thought so far |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I agree absolutely about the need to repeal the tax cuts. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
61. Only if we want to win |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. He's taking a big gamble by being so polarized against them. |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Will I pay more or less with Dean? If more, then its RAISING TAXES |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Deab should not cancel the tax cuts for the middle and working... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Honey Lamb, WHAT tax cuts for the middle and working class? |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. If it is pennies |
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xray s (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. I would like to see him throw away references to Bush's tax cut |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. That would be fine, too. Dean has to be able to say |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
9. As of right now, they can't accuse him of class warfare. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I doubt that accusations of "class warfare" sway most people. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. No, you won't lose. You'll win. |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. Dukakis didn't lose because of taxes |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. Eric, you may note that property taxes in Minnesota increased |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. we've all heard his local taxes talking point |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. The perception is more important than the reality with regard to |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. Those of you supporting Dean's |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. Good Post |
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poskonig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. You are worrying over nothing. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. In California, the car-tax was a small amount for many people, but |
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poskonig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. This isn't a matter of belief. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. I hope you're right, but I wish Dean would at least modify a little, |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. Why Doesn't Dean Just Cut Pentagon Spending? |
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poskonig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Amen! (answers within) |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. The "make want" budget |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Dean's answer is that we shouldn't cut the Pentagon budget during a war. |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Why Doesn't Dean Just Cut Pentagon Spending? |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
38. you will not win a debate over repeal not being a tax increase |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
49. You obviously don't even know what Dean is saying about taxes |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I'm following the primaries closer than most people, so if Dean |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. that's not acurate |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Yea, maybe we don't know that it's |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Balancing the budget on the backs of the middle class? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-03 01:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. His educatioin plan encourages people to go into more debt. |
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LittleDannySlowhorse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
50. That's fair |
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Woodstock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. I think you raised a good point, I've been wondering about it too |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
55. He'll change it at the convention. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Why wait for the convention? |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-03 11:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. People don't take off their coats |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-03 12:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Fuck that 'Bait and Switch' Bullshit! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-03 01:44 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Only bait & switch is, bait: "I'm a democrat, switch: "I'm libertarian." |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-03 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
63. agree, because people are naive |
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