Does Anybody Else Feel Like Kerry's Doing Much Better But It's Too Late?

[liberalpragmatist]

In the last few weeks, Kerry is finally looking like he's excited. He finally is conveying his emotions, finally straight-talking, finally giving coherent answers to questions. His campaign now seems like a good one, but I can't help but have this nagging feeling like it's too late. I'm still supporting the guy and hoping he can pull thru, but this change should've happened last september if not over the summer. At this point, it's gonna take a miracle for him to retake Dean's lead in NH, even if it may be more possible for him to cut it down, it just doesn't look mathematically possible in the short time left for him to overtake him.

[sandnsea]

1. Not with posts like yours n/t

[virtualobserver]

6. it is never too late.

The latest Ipsos-Reid poll did look better for Kerry, with a dip for Clark and Dean.

[sandnsea]

22. Then be supportive

If you're a supporter. What good does this kind of post do?

He's been great all year. Did you hear him at the Harkin Steak Fry? He's has 10 great days to every 1 bad day. Just because this board tends to post the crap doesn't mean that's been the reality.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

24. LOL sandnsea! and let me just say

that NH is FAMOUS for confounding predictions.
And the old saying: "If you don't like New England weather- wait a minute" can be just as true regarding the New Hampshire primary.

[T Bone]

2. He will do better when average people start paying attention

and I know average people who start paying attention five to TWO days before an election. I swear.

[sandnsea]

4. My daughter...

She's almost 20. She's been at the house a couple times when debates were on and I've told her it was the Democratic primaries and tried to get her interested.

Yesterday she pops in when they were all on the actual news. "Are we electing a President some time soon?" Aaagh.

[joeybee12]

3. Don't flame me, but I think he's doomed--it's too late because the media

has decided that it's too late. That's their story line now, and I don't see them dropping it. And the more they harp on this, the more it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[imhotep]

5. its not too late

He is just a loser.

[eileen_d]

16. your cogent analysis is appreciated

by someone else. :puke:

[Zolok]

32. It is never too late to stage an upset coup in New Hampshire...

it's never to late to LOSE in New Hampshire and go on to win the whole thing....
Bill Clinton came in second to my man Paul Tsongas in 1992 and yet went on conquer the kingdom of heaven.
Everyone thought Jimmy Carter was a nobody until the votes were counted and Carter won N.H.
So look to your volunteers my friends, your positions no matter how welcome the polls may be is not so secure.
:)

[Kathleen04]

7. Did great at the FL Convention today..

alot of his message resonated to me..

Too late?, possibly..but I think it's still too early to call this race. And, IMO, it may not rely on whether Kerry improves, but on whether Dean makes any mistakes.

[JohnKleeb]

10. "but I think it's still too early to call this race."

Thank you Kathleen, I agree completely. I get really :eyes: when people think my candiate outta drop out before any primary, its like quitting a match before even getting started.

[GreenArrow]

8. Not too late...

Dean is his own worst enemy, and the powers that be want a Kerry/Clark ticket.

[Jerseycoa]

18. Wow

I hadn't heard this one before.

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. No, he's not doing better and yes, it is too late. n/t

[K-W]

11. Inavitability is a funny thing

it certainly isn't too late though, there is still plenty of time left for the polls to change alot.

[baby_bear]

12. I don't think it's too late at all

I started out early on supporting Dean and I still like him, but when MoveOn.org did its poll, I decided it was too early to commit in this race. And lately, including today when I heard his speech in Florida, I felt that Kerry might have a better chance against Bush.

Yesterday, I was telling a friend that we simply cannot repeat 1972 - we have to learn from that experience. In other words, just because we have a despicable president and a rotten war going on, the Dems can't put up someone who doesn't appeal to enough people to oust the incumbent.

So, because I am a diehard Democrat, and because I am still more or less on the fence but considering Kerry as more and more attractive as "the" candidate, I can't help but believe there are lots and lots of other people out there who are similarly minded as myself (which is to say, I don't consider myself to be unique, but a mainstream liberal Democrat). I work among a lot of other Democrats (I'm lucky that way), and I think the large majority of them haven't decided yet either.

s_m

[Eloriel]

14. That's an interesting argument

So, while it's true that a lot of people haven't committed yet, you are willing to go with a candidate that fewer and fewer people are finding attractive -- because you're believing the pundits who haven't been right about Dean yet, the DLC/DNC big wigs who are afraid of losing pwer if Howard Dean goes anywhere, and the GOP who would LOVE to cripple the one man who can most easily beat Bush by tainting him with the "can't beat Bush" brush.

Sounds like a plan to me. :eyes:

Eloriel

[KC21304]

29. Sounds like you made up the " plan " in your head

because that isn't what Sierra Moon said.

[baby_bear]

31. Thanks Kerryfan

You're right. My overall point was that there are a lot of Democrats - even left leaning Dems - who simply haven't decided yet, so I don't think it's too late for a number of the candidates.

On top of that, there are the Independents, Greens, Libertarians, etc., who also may ultimately may side with the Democrats in this election.

My mind is still open. Nothing wrong with that!

s_m

[welshTerrier2]

13. yes and maybe

Kerry clearly had the best showing in Florida today ...

he was by far the most knowledgeable on the widest range of subjects ..

his pathetic campaign seems to have finally awakened ... i must say, and until recently i've been one of his harshest critics, that i've been extremely impressed with him these last couple of weeks ...

his foreign policy speech a couple of days ago to the Council of Foreign Relations was one of the best speeches i've ever heard ... his grasp of foreign policy is second to none ...

so, yes, Kerry is doing much, much better ... if he had campaigned like this from the beginning, he might still be the front-runner ...

it's not clear whether it's too late or not ... what is clear is that Kerry intends to stay in for the long haul ... i believe Kerry will take a bath in N.H. ... and the pundits will predict his demise ... but, not so quick ... if nothing else changed, then you would have to acknowledge that what is today is what will be tomorrow ... this is not the case though ...

Kerry is not the same candidate we've been seeing ... it's not just a new staff or some fancy packaging either ... Kerry himself has changed ... his last few public appearances demonstrated a real passion for the issues ... unlike before, he seems like a man on a mission ... this will make a huge difference ... now where did i put that crystal ball?

[Jerseycoa]

20. Kerry's Speech

I thought his speech was excellent today. If he keeps it up from there, I wouldn't count him out.

[DrFunkenstein]

15. Now That Dean Has Won So Many Primary States...

I don't see how...oh, wait. Nevermind. I forgot that not a single vote has been cast.

[virtualobserver]

17. you are absolutely right

until the vote, we are just talkin' here.

[JohnKleeb]

21. and people wonder why I get pissed off when they tell my guy to withdraw

:eyes: people these days sheesh
Its like as I been saying, withdrawing from a match before it begins.

[virtualobserver]

23. especialy since Iowa can sometimes yield surprising results

Iowa measures intensity of support and organization.

[otohara]

19. Edwards Also

I really liked what Edwards had to say today, but alas - I think it's too late.

If Kerry & Edwards hadn't voted for IWR, they wouldn't have had to spend the first critical months of of campaigning explaining themselves.

Now they no longer have to support their decission, because of what's happening in Iraq. Kerry at least realizes he made a huge mistake - Lieberman still hanging in there with his yes vote and we all know where he is..........

I am grateful for them speaking about Diebold.

[pasadenaboy]

25. Yep,

That's exactly how I feel. If he would have woken up earlier, I think he could have won the nomination.

[kerryistheanswer]

26. Kerry will come back

I've been following Kerry's campaign since January and I agree - he's been far more energetic over the past few weeks. Like he always says, he's a fighter - he won't quit.

That's why we Kerry supporters should continue to believe - continue to spread the word. We need to get our friends excited about the issues - no other candidate has as firm a grasp on the problems we currently face. Kerry has the solutions and experience to take us in a better direction.

Peace.

[Dagaz]

27. He's toast

I was behind him at the start but when he fo9lowed Dean into the abyss I dropped Kerry as a serious choice. I realize that the Dean/McGovern forces are winning right not but that's no excuse for anandoning principles.

[FXDS]

28. Not to late!

Kerry had a great appreance in Florida today!

[caledesi]

30. Yes, I do. I really feel that Kerry was not feeling that well at the

beginning of his campaign due to the prostate surgery etc. He just didn't look or sound well. JMO.