Chris Matthews is fawning over Dean on Imus right now

[pruner]

you can tell he genuinely likes they guy.

he's very suspicious of Clark & the Clintons.

tonight's Hardball (w/Clark) should be a blast.

:)

[Lexingtonian]

1. ah, the bandwagon fills

Careful, sharp learning curve ahead!

[thebigidea]

2. he's a manic lunatic - remember his draft badgering?

and speaking as a manic lunatic, I must say that he shames all of us!



If Dean gets the nom, Tweety will be babbling about "anger" every day ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.

"Ann Coulter, you're brilliant - up next, Frank Luntz on why Dean can't win because GE pays us to say so... I mean, because... uh... Howard Fineman, what do you think?"

[pruner]

3. he said he thought Dean did really well on his show

Imus brought up Geogre Will's piece to which Tweety responded "well, you know he's a conservative".

that shut Imus up.

[thebigidea]

5. but you can't trust him... he has constant mood swings

surely you've noticed this? I'd rather have Satan on my side than Tweetybird.

[moz4prez]

4. isn't it a general consensus among DU'ers that Chris Matthews

is a republican shill?

And why is he given the benefit of the doubt now?

[IndianaGreen]

7. Tweety is a Republican shill

and he is on his manic phase when he is on camera. I wouldn't trust a word he says.

[moz4prez]

8. but he "genuinely likes they guy"!!!!

that makes all the difference!

[bearfartinthewoods]

9. i don't think so

i think he is a classic regan dem....pure and simple. he has turned against bush because of iraq and the wmd debacle. he LIKES Dean and he is laying in wait for Clark because he thinks Clarks is an unwitting tool of the Clintons.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. I agree with you on this assessment.

Clark is in my top three, but I'm waiting for him to pass muster with the Dems and I suspect that he has a couple of perception problems he's going to have to beat. The Clinton ties are one of them. (Though, frankly, it doesn't bother me.)

[Cocoa]

26. he hasn't turned against Bush

or against the war, despite his pretending not to like it.

When Bush had his "PR offensive", Tweety helped out with a week of "Iraq--the Real Story" which had some of the worst Iraq coverage I've ever seen.

[TLM]

54. Yeah I think he HATES the clintons....

not so much the democrats or the left, but he just has a bug up his butt over the Clintons.

[bearfartinthewoods]

55. i'm not sure that is true abour Hill but it sure as hell is the case w/bil

clinton lied to tweety and tweety hates him for it. tweety invests personaly in people/personalities. betray his trust and you are toast. that's why i think he's off bush now. he no longer trusts him.

[bitchkitty]

14. Not necessarily - more like a

corporate shill and an idiot.

[creativelcro]

22. I like Chris...

[sandnsea]

6. Fawns over Bush too

Calls him an honest guy too. Hmmm.

[oasis]

10. Fineman's trotting out his "Hillary wishes for Dem chaos story" again.

This way she gets her shot in 2008.

Now Fineman tells Imus that the other Democrats need to take on Dean in order to stand a chance.

[trogdor]

33. Billy Safire's playing that song too at NYT.

He takes an opportunistic shot at Dean, too.

Says she'll either run as the favorite against Bill Frist or Jeb, or as the underdog after eight years of Howard Dean, after "arrogantly" abusing executive privilege, over what he doesn't explain.

The hypocrisy of Bush apologists calling for Dean to open his records is astounding.

[oasis]

52. If Safire said Hillary abused executive privilege, then he should explain.

[mot78]

11. Don't trust Tweety Matthews

If Dean gets the nomination, he and all the other pundits will turn on Dean, and repetitively caricature him as angry.

[Terwilliger]

13. If Chris Matthews likes Dean...then it's time for me to look elsewhere

I dont see how Tweety supporting your boy is a good thing.

[rucky]

28. If my enemy is a friend of my friend, than my friend is my enemy

hmmm.

[Terwilliger]

50. no, Chris Matthews is a fucknut playing games

[OneTwentyoNine]

15. And when the wind changes direction

So will Tweety. Today he loves Dean,wait a few weeks and get shocked when he loads his panel up with a load of ranting media whores. You'll see a 180 turn. Tweety used to shock me with his kind of pandering shit but I'm used to it. I wouldn't take anything that fucker says very seriously.

David

[robbedvoter]

16. Thanks Pruner! Let's see if Mathews is a professional or Dean's advocate

Dear Mr Mathews
This morning I was very surprised to read the following on Democratic Underground:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=848801
: pruner  (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-08-03 07:11 AM Original message Chris Matthews is fawning over Dean on Imus right nowEdited on Mon Dec-08-03 07:12 AM by pruner you can tell he genuinely likes they guy. he's very suspicious of Clark & the Clintons. tonight's Hardball (w/Clark) should be a blast.

I am confident that your professionalism will rise above your personal biases and you'll disappoint the poster by offering evenhandedl treatment to all candidates.
Sincerely,

[robbedvoter]

18. PS: I cc-ed Clark on the letter too.

Again, thanks, pruner. Anyone has the address for the Daily Howler? The Horse is out to pasture - sigh...

[NNN0LHI]

19. "Dean's advocate?" Tweety has said he voted for the Chimp in 2000 n/t

[bearfartinthewoods]

31. have you been watching him Don?

check it out. he feels betrayed by bush. he sees Dean as a reformer.

[Cocoa]

34. oh, please!

Betrayed by Bush? Are you telling me that if Dean gets the nomination that Tweety is not going to shill for Bush?

Tweety's opposition to Bush is as transparently bogus as Tom Friedman's.

[bearfartinthewoods]

47. i've got five bucks that says the worm has turned....

unless something BIG happens like massive WMD discoveries or saddamn and bennie's heads on a platter or another attack here, tweety votes for ....
naaaa....i'm not five dollars sure.

[robbedvoter]

37. I am going by the title of this thread/content of first post I answered to

If you are right, then ithat would only be more proof that GOP pushes Dean as oponent of choice - and that would make Mathews - at least for now - still Dean's advocate.

[leetrisck]

17. Don't trust him, he's still

getting in his nasty little digs at Dean and all the Democratic candidates - he's on his knees for bush - DO NOT TRUST HIM

[Lefta Dissenter]

20. I mentioned the other day

that I had seen Tweety on his show a couple of days after Dean had been on, praising Dean as if he were the second coming. He even went so far as to admire the casual way that Dean was sitting in his chair. Come on, it sounded like he had the hots for Dean!

Yeah, I'm expecting a real fair interview tonight!

The thing is, I know that Clark can hold his own even against an interviewer who doesn't like him (witness Faux), but it's the so-called analysis afterwards that he doesn't have any way of countering, once he's out of the building.

Boy, I'm really nervous that he won't sit in his chair as 'cooly' as Dean did.....

[HoosierClarkie]

45. Yeah and I wonder when Clark gets a tough question...

if Tweety will come to his defense and say "who are you working for?"
I only saw one tough question from him in the whole interview with Dean. "Do you think it is fair that other people went(to vietnam)in your place?...because they couldn't afford x-rays?" Everything else was fluff.

I think Clark will do excellent because he always rises to the occasion. I just pray that tweety will grow a conscience when the interview is over and realize what he is doing is immoral and unethical and engage in an honest discussion about Clark.

[onecitizen]

21. But you just cannot trust.........

the guy. I wish you could but he just wants to be on the side of whoever is winning that day. Tomorrow bush will dress up in his GI georgie outfit and mathews will cooing over him again.

[Gringo]

23. I'm a big Deanie, but I'll NEVER trust Tweety

He is the most duplicitous whore in the business. I watch him every now and then, but he's as sleazy as O'Really, in that he makes you think he's a moderate, or even a democrat, but loves to advance the repug agenda.

I still support Dean, but an endorsement from Tweety makes me uneasy.

[TrueAmerican]

24. He is just like the rest of the republicans

They know Dean can't beat Bush so they are proping him up so they get the best match-up for the GOP.

[kentuck]

25. How could a conservative/right-winger like Tweety like Dean....

and be sincere?

[John_H]

27. Another irrefutable but of evidence the Rethugs want Dean

No one here needs to point out that Tweety is a bush voter and a huge bush supporter. He's just doing his bit to help give the chimp another four years.

[unfrigginreal]

29. Chris loves Pols that aren't just spouting a Party line

It's the same reason that he loves folks like Mario Cuomo and Ed Rendell. Let's see, does that mean that they must be stealth RW'ers too? It must be according to some of the posts in this thread.

There's plenty of Pukes that he loves for the same reason.

I still think that Chris is a RW'er, but if Cuomo and Rendell can get Tweety's admiration, then I'm happy to see my guy in such good company.

[spooky3]

30. a simpler hypothesis is that Tweety responds to personal charm

as he defines it. If he finds the person attractive, and if the person is nice to him, that person's politics are less important to Tweety. Too emotional to be credible.

[unfrigginreal]

40. "Too emotional to be credible."

Maybe in a perfect world, but the reality is that the likable candidate usually beats the policy wonk.

[UTUSN]

36. Media Yakkers Like Trouble

IMUS asked Nora O'DONNELL what she heard on her White House rounds about who the Shrubbites want to run against, DEAN? She said the ROVE story cheering DEAN has run its course, that actually they see DEAN now as UNPREDICTABLE, that in a debate DEAN might "get under (Shrub's) skin", that Shrub likes everything to be in "NBA"(?) order with no deviations from the scripts. IMUS said that this sounded good to him, would be "fun". This is the same line the media used against President GORE, that he was "boring," that it would be more fun to cover Shrub for 4 years. I'd like to see Shrub melt down, too, but there's gotta be a better way to select.

[mmonk]

32. This from a man

who said he wanted Clark to run in order to have a national discussion over the Iraq situation (since he was a general who was critical of it). Then when he accepted, suddenly dismissed in many ways his campaign and no longer seemed interested in that discussion.

[HoosierClarkie]

42. Perception is reality right?

Chris has been talked to. Obviously. Whenever someone who is a repug slips and says "Clark", you can see the "oh shit did I just say his name" look on their face. I agree he likes Dean but only because he likes Bush.
:hi:

[madfloridian]

35. I think he admires feistiness in a candidate.

I have wondered about this myself, why he appears to chuckle when he speaks of Dean....almost like he shakes his head like he is puzzled. I think he is just appreciating his outspoken manner.

Don't think for one moment that Chris Matthews won't turn on a dime and attack him. Yep, Dean is a feisty little fellow.

[robbedvoter]

38. Good. Than he should be fair to Clark - in spite of his "suspicious ties

to the Clintons" as pruner chronicled his Imus performance.
If it's feistiness he wants, I,m sure Weskey Smackdown Clark can accomodate.

[madfloridian]

44. I am sure Dean would rather Tweety like Clark instead.

I doubt Dean is especially happy about it.

[Forkboy]

39. That's hardly a plus for Dean in my book

[madfloridian]

43. I doubt Dean sought his endorsement.

:evilgrin:

[Forkboy]

46. lol....ain't that the truth!

:)

[Sideways]

41. Ah Fuck Matthews He Is The TURD In The Punchbowl

Squirming little asshat. Fuck Chris. He is an ass licking power junkie. No better than Rush.

[diamondsoul]

48. And you're proud of this why??

Matthews is a fullblown gargantuan rectum!

[KC21304]

49. Does this mean he has gotten over his crush on

the BIG man in the flight suit ? LOL

As for his hatred of the Clintons, old, old news.

[Padraig18]

51. Ewwww...

Love Dean, hate Tweety... :puke:

[jpgray]

53. I'm glad he likes Dean, but Matthews is a wretch (nt)

[TLM]

56. SOmething yo folks seem to forget about Matthews ... he's a whrore

and media whores go where the big money making story is... and like it or not Dean is the big story. Dean sells magazines and advertisment time.

Matthews likes Dean because doing so means more money in Matthews' pocket. It is as simple as that.

Whores do not care what John gives them money, as long as they get the money. Media whores do not care about party... or at least party takes a back seat to following the money making story.

[Auntie Bush]

59. That's why the Whores don't talk about Clark anymore.

"and media whores go where the big money making story is... and like it or not Dean is the big story. Dean sells magazines and advertisment time. "

When the media had a good mystery/suspense story going...Was General Clark going to run for President? Was Clark a Republican or a Democrat? They had the public in suspense. It was like a Soap Opera....tune in tomorrow to find out. Just like the, "Who shot J.R. story?" The public and the media all loved it! So did the Draft Clark movement and so did I. At the same time...the other big story the media were talking about was, "Is that liberal Howard Dean really that popular and collecting so much money...even though he is only Gov. of that tiny little state of Vt. blah.bah.bah. He's a black sheep.

Soon the suspense and mystery was over. Clark was a Democrat and he was going to RUN. Now we can have some great stories on this 10th candidate and how he moves through the ranks and knocks off his competitors one by one... till we finally have an exciting horse race between Clark and Dean. But wait! HORRORS!!!! Wesley Clark immediately jumps to the top of the polls and is in first place after running only several weeks! "Good god," says the media! What in the world are we going to talk about for the whole next year? There is NO HORSE RACE! There is no suspense! We already know the ending! This is an absolute FINANCIAL DISASTER for all the media, both T.V. and print". Who's going to advertise or watch if there is no excitement, no horse race?

"Problem solved", ...says the Republican Corporate executive with his evil grin. "How can Clark stay in first place if we only attack him and give him total negative press ...then ignore his very existence. Don't talk about him...pretend he isn't there, forget him, make him go away...make him irrelevant...like we did with Arafat, bin Laden and Gore!"

And that's exactly what they did! Notice how he disappeared off ALL the screens and stations shortly after the polls showed him in first place. NO one would even mention his name and ALL the media did it at the same time. Was that just a coincidence?...or possibly a willful deliberate conspiracy? (Maybe following some talking points from media executives who were following talking points from above.)

The plan/conspiracy continues. Build Dean up! Make him the front runner and declare him IMPOSSIBLE to beat. (Notice that they are already saying his is impossible to beat and we haven't even cast a single vote and many people still don't even know the names of all the contenders and many are undecided.) Non the less...later in the election they can slowly build Clark back up again, give him some good press... Then Walla! We will have our Horse Race back again...and plenty of advertising DOLLARS. Problem solved!

The only problem still remaining...is to be sure not to build Clark up so much that he will beat Howard Dean. And not to build Dean up so much that he would beat George Bush. Heaven forbid should Dean win...he'll raise our taxes. Hmmm this is getting scary...how are we going to control this election?

Not to worry...we have Dibold!

[Scott Lee]

57. Lots of disaffected GOPers are warming to Dean.

And no, that's not a bad thing. It means that Warchimp really HAS gone off the deep end and started alienating his crowd. We hope this will translate appropriately on election day, do we not?

And no, this doesn't mean that Dean is republican. It means that he is connecting with the anger stream in BOTH parties.

[chopper]

58. hmm....

now i know where he gets the nickname...



the resemblance is striking ;-)