Let's Revisit The Oklahoma City Bombing For A While

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I am reading a book on the monumental lie that is the official story of 9/11. In this book they preface the 9-11 cover-up with other great cover-ups in our recent history.

I never really paid alot of attention to the Oklahoma bombing, as I was working my butt off raising my two boys alone, and did not have internet at the time.

But, according to this book, amongst other tragic events, the Oklahoma City Bombing was another one of those LIHOP/MIHOP kinda events. Actually according to this book it was definately a MIHOP. There are some interesting accusations made and I wanted to throw them out there for discussion and verification.

This book states that immediately after the Oklahoma bombing "Anti-terrorism" bills were rushed through Congress in days and at least some had been written and printed before the bombing. They included all the elements of destroying civil liberties that have been still further extended as a result of 9/11. Within 24 hours, Clinton was calling for "...an easing of restrictions on the military's involvement in domestic law enforcement". Clinton also used the bombing to urge the media to ban "anti-government extremists" from their papers, screens and microphones, and he attacked the alternative talk radio shows that are designed to give the public a rare opportunity to hear and communicate information that differs from the official line.

Also it is alleged the Charles Schumer(D)New York proposed a bill that included five-year sentences for publically engaging in "unseemly speculation" and publishing or transmitting by wire or electronic means ""baseless conspiracy theories regarding the Federal Government of the United States".

This book states that already the FBI "Joint Anti-Terrorism Task Force" has issued flyers urging the public to call with information about possible "terrorists" within the US. The flyers state that among the people to watch for are "'defenders of the US Constitution against the federal government and UN"; people who make "numerous references to the Constitution"; those who "attempt to police the police"; and "Lone Individuals".

This causes me great concern.

[meegbear]

1. What book are you reading?

Interesting preface.

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4. 'Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster"

The "terrorists" flyers is sourced to http://www.rense.com/general17/fly.htm

Schumer's Bill is sourced to H.R. 2580

on edit; added flyers, I forgot the first time.

[quinnox]

2. I had a feeling this would be

about a conspiracy theory.

I wonder, do terrorists who blow up buildings actually exist? Maybe they all are part of a conspiracy.

[Nlighten1]

3. So

Are you saying that there are no conspiracies?

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5. Conspiracy theories and theorists........

These are always the labels that are put onto stories and storytellers that disagree with the 'Official Story(ies)". It is the "go to" defense, ALWAYS. Instead of looking at "Other than Official" evidence, we are supposed to run away fearing what others might think.

Shall we just take the advise of our Chimpster in Charge when he told us "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th".

[frylock]

6. if you're interested in okc..

then you should check out General Partin's report. He explains quite plainly that there is no way that the ANFO bomb could be solely responsible for the damage to that building.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm

[ProfessorGAC]

11. I Don't Agree

I've seen those explosive in a quarry. 1000 gallons of slurry and 20 detonator charges blew 12,000 tons of rock off the face of the quarry.

The look of the building is unmistakable as one of walls pushed in, not out.

I think you underestimate the power of a slurry device. They are VERY powerful, as long as the detonation is done with sufficient brissance. That assure the detonation of the slurry at maximum burn, which i believe is 600 m/s. That's supersonic, due to the nitrate content. Obviously, fuel oil doesn't burn anywhere near that fast. (Likely <5% of that.)

I would suggest that this bomb was sufficiently large to do that damage, given what i've seen with my own eyes. Now, exactly who was involved, how many, and what their motivations are is anybody's guess.
The Professor

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

8. terrorists DID blow up the OK Fed building

the only question is who exactly were the terrorists. You don't believe that McVeigh conspired with that other guy to blow up the building? I believe that conspiracy theory was proven in a court of law. Do you accept that conspiracy theory?

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12. According to the Oregonian, April 20, 1995

Federal Judge Wayne Alley was not in his chambers that day. He told the Oregonian newspaper that he had decided not to go to work that day because "there had been talk". He said "Let me just say that within the past two or three weeks, information has been disseminated...that indicated concerns on the part of people who ought to know, that we ought to to be a little more careful...My subjective impression was there was a reason for a dissemination of these concerns."

There is more, there is a bunch of foreknowledge.

also at
http://members.aol.com/bardsquill/truck.htm
and
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/TRUCK/truck.html

THere are pictures of a Ryder truck photographed from the air in early April 1995 within the walls of a military compound near Camp Gruber-Braggs, Oklahoma.

There are many other discrepencies and we can go into each and every one of them but, what is most troubling to me are the actions of Clinton, Schumer, and the FBI following the bombing.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

13. yep, a lot of foreknowledge, just like 911

Seems there were a few executives from the WTC bunkering down with Warren Buffet at Offit Airforce base in Nebraska for a "charity event" at 6:00AM.

The ATF for some reason wasn't even in the Oklahoma City building when it was destroyed. Too bad someone did give prior warning to all those kids.

[bobbieinok]

7. one opinion from OK

I live in Tulsa and followed the local TV reports on this. BTW, the local people were much better than the national media.

There appear to be a lot of people in OK (mostly politicians ?) who think the real story is being concealed.

Many of those pushing for more investigations, more trials seem to be furious that no Islamic terrorists were involved. <There is no way a fine young caucasian American could have done this.>

[Sven77]

9. the road to tyrranny

this was all discussed in Alex Jones Video 911 / The Road to Tyrrany. It had videos of the Oklahoma City Bombing press saying that there was more explosives in the building. how could that be if it was only a truck bomb outside. why was none of the many video cameras around the building released to the public. it stinks i tell yah. :mad:

[el_gato]

10. the local news at the time talked about bombs IN the building

and the ATF went in there to remove the remains

the official story about OK City is bullshit and anybody
who cares to take a closer look will see right through it

[slaveplanet]

14. Was FBI early arrival in Oklahoma City?

Was FBI early arrival
in Oklahoma City?
Hotel receipt shows top terror man showed up 9 hours before blast

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By Jon Dougherty
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
The FBI's top counterterrorism agent checked into an Oklahoma City hotel nearly nine hours before a truck bomb nearly leveled the Alfred P. Murrah Building, according to a receipt obtained by WorldNetDaily, despite claims that he was in Texas the morning of the attack.
The Embassy Suites Hotel receipt of Danny Coulson, then-director of the FBI's Terrorist Task Force and founding commander of the bureau's Hostage Rescue Team was dated April 19, 1995, with a check-in time of "00:20" – military time for 12:20 a.m. (Editor's note: His last name is spelled "Coulsen" on the receipt, but it indicates he is with the "FBI," located at "50 Penn Place, Suite 1600; OKC, OK.")
The truck bomb exploded at 9:03 a.m., devastating half the building and killing 168 men, women and children.
According to the receipt, Coulson checked out of his hotel – room 406 – April 27 at 11:16 a.m.
The existence of the receipt and subsequent questions it raises surrounding the FBI's official denial of prior knowledge of the OKC bombing was first reported by J.D. Cash of the McCurtain (Oklahoma) Daily Gazette – a small-town paper that has been out in front of scores of OKC-related stories. -snip-

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15. Yep I read that also.

And lets not even mention the fact that it has been reported by many witnesses that the bomb squad was there that morning BEFORE the bomb went off.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23016

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16. Isn't anyone concerned about Schumer's and Clinton's actions

here?

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17. Is everybody hiding my thread?

[Kazak]

18. Let's not...

Once is enough.

(I live 20 miles south of OKC, BTW.)