i'm sworn to secrecy...

[newsguyatl]

NO MORE!!!

and it feels so good!

for those who remember that now infamous (and much regretted) thread of mine back in late september talking about something big that was gonna happen in late october concerning dean that would "transform" the race, well, this was it, gore's endorsement.

why didn't it happen in october? i haven't a clue, it's anyone's guess... perhaps strategy. but my dean sources who gave me this info. (which i knew was legit) kept affirming me he'd still endorse, even after the october deadline passed. so i patiently awaited, and consequently took a breather from DU. make no mistake, though gore is endorsing PUBLICLY tomorrow, he's been in the dean camp for several months now...



back in september when i posted this, i decided i'd better take the steps to save face with my fellow DUers (whom I have much respect for), JUST IN CASE the october deadline passed with no announcement. (imagine that)... so i gave in and told one of the most trusted (and in my opinion) smartest DUers in a private phone call, eloriel. boy am i glad i did that! subsequently, i've told a few other DUers who'd asked me in pm's here.


so to those here who've said i was bush-esque (all hat and no cattle), i say to you fair enough, because the "october" part never came to fruition. but i also say to you, with this finally happening, i at least feel redeemed. :-)

oh, and last thing, i promise, no more 'i'm sworn to secrecy' threads. man oh man, do i promise!


moderators ---> please indulge me and spare this, at least for a little while... i'd gotten a ton of pm's from duers on this in the past, so i'm glad i can now finally put it to rest.

[karlschneider]

1. How convenient.

:eyes:

[Toucano]

4. Exactly!

It's a nice chuckle! Thanks.

[newsguyatl]

ahh,

i see the more things change, the more they stay the same... lol

[Toucano]

13. I'm just teasing you...

because I can. :)

Really, I know how it feels to be finally vindicated! Good for you.

[newsguyatl]

15. thanks man

[karlschneider]

21. Well, I wasn't disparaging you (much), but I can't help thinking that if I

were to predict some 'big story' in the 'near future', I'd feel fairly safe in doing so. You may have been precisely on target, but you never gave any clues, so anything that happened since then could be seized by you as 'vindication.' Sorry, I don't buy it.

And don't imagine I'm a freeper. I ain't.

If I had the power to change Shrub into a toad, I'd do it in 2.3 nanoseconds.

[newsguyatl]

25. that's fine.

i understand.

and i knew several folks would respond the same way.


but if you know and trust eloriel (a LONG TIME duer) ask her. she'll tell you i called her back then and gave her the scoop. as well, in the last month or two, i'd pm'ed a few other duers with the gore scoop who'd asked me. though i asked them not to say anything at the time.


damn, eloriel. sorry to be using you like this...lol but that early scoop didn't come without a price i guess... ;-)

[CWebster]

39. Actually, I recall an online conversation just days ago

between you and eloriel where you noted that she was privy to the surprise.

[Sterling]

30. I agree the whole thing has been pretty lame.

Next time you have a big secret you can't tell until after it does not matter please keep it to yourself. I feel like I let you waste part of my life.

At least you could be cool enough not to pretend you are special because you may or may not know something you refuse to tell us until we no longer care to hear about it.

[newsguyatl]

31. lol

haha, i'm not pretending i'm special in the LEAST! where in the heck do you get that?!

plain and simple, i was let in on a scoop... i was excited about it and jumped the gun on du. i shouldn't have. i realize that in retrospect. but at the same time, i had no IDEA folks would jump on it like they did... believe me, i NEVER wanted/or expected this to be that big of a deal...

this is a veritable eating crow/saving face. that and that alone.


i'm sorry i wasted part of your life, sterling. but perhaps you should get out more?

[Eloriel]

33. Krl -- It's exactly as Newsguy says

He did tell me precisely this, that Al Gore would be endorsing Dean. And now it has come to fruition. Are you going to disbelieve me too? You can, of course, but it would be a mistake -- it;'s true.

(Sometimes it IS possible to be too cynical.)

Eloriel

[newsguyatl]

37. eloriel

you're my savior darling :-)

the other one i told you about should be coming as well, but i'm not gonna even GUESS as to when....lol

and we oughta go out and celebrate this victory sometime :cheers:


btw, did you know dean's coming to atlanta this weekend?

[Eloriel]

45. YESS!!!!!

We should go celebrate. And YESS!!! I'll be there on Saturday. I presume you will too?

Eloriel

[newsguyatl]

46. i'm gonna try

my darndest...

i'll let you know... if i go, can't wait to see ya again :-)

[Jax]

48. No Fair!!!

You get to celebrate with Eloriel in person and I don't! She is a great and important DUer IMHO.

How could you keep that a secret?!!? Good job! :thumbsup:

When I heard this on CBS news this evening I said "What?". Undecided before but the Gore endorsement seals Dean for me.

Get back here in these forums newsguyatl!!! Your voice is important too. You were missed! :hi:

Jax

[fob]

56. What!?! The other one should be coming as well?

You can't slip that in here on your "I'm sorry" thread! I was relieved to finally have to NOT look for your posts to find out the secret, and you leave another time bomb in this one!


ARGAHGAHGHAGHAGHHGAHGAH!!!!!!

Well, that's one way to be the most searched name on DU

Seriously, spill it!

Oh well, at least post an update at a consistent time so I don't have to search for it.

fob

[burning bush]

9. Well, those in whom he confided...

should be able to support or reject the position.

No need to tease :)

[newsguyatl]

19. hmm, there were a few

i know i told eloriel on the telephone the same day i posted back in september...


and others, i told later... CMT, zidzi, and a few others... i'm forgetting now...


maybe they'll come vouch for me...lol


hope they're cool with me "outing" them.

[Eloriel]

34. Absolutely cool being outed --

speaking for myself. Sorry it took me so long to get here.

I hope your sabbatical from DU is over. I've missed you fiercely. :-)

Eloriel

[hlthe2b]

Actually (call me a dupe), but I wondered if this was your secret

Newsguyatl. In fact, I missed this post the first time around and when the news broke on the Gore endorsement, did a search on your name to see if you had returned to DU.

So, folks let's set aside the sour grapes.... All of us have had secrets we were DYING to tell but could not. The fact that newsguyatl posted a hint at something that could be positive for DEMS was reassuring to us at a time when I think many DUers needed some good news. While, I'm not personally committed to Dean, yet, (I still like Clark and on some increasingly diminishing level, Kerry), I do think the efforts by Gore to "rally the troops" a good thing.

Newsguyatl, several people here defended you when you weren't around and others were jumping to conclusions that you were just BSing us...
I hope you realize that...

[hlthe2b]

52. - ignore

Dupe post... Too hard on the enter key...

[proud patriot]

2. I remember

:D must be a relief to you :hi:

[mandyky]

3. Hey newsguy!!

I've missed ya! Where have you been?

Every time a major Dean announcement of endorsement has been made, I've wondered, is this the one Newguy spoke of.. LOL Now we know!

[a_random_joel]

5. Good for you newsguy!

I remember the thread. COnsider yourself redeemed at least by me.

BUT DON'T DO IT AGAIN!!!

[frank frankly]

6. great news

i really really really hope that we are seeing a force for change within the Democratic Party.

:hi:

[Gin]

7. what other secrets are you keeping???? This Gore endorsement was a

good thing...no matter when it came about...

so tell us more newsguy....spill your guts.

[reknewcomer]

8. Can you provide proof?

It's now December and post Gore. Show us the money.

[fishnfla]

10. darn, you could've taken credit for the Rush Limbaugh story

folks here were saying that was the scoop! But i remember the orig had something to do with Deaniacs

[annagull]

11. Welcome Back, newsguyatl!

Boy, that was a big secret! I wonder why Gore waited, but he probably wanted to see how Dean handled some of the controversies (fair and unfair) that have come up. Obviously Dean has handled them well, as the press are now calling him the "Teflon candidate".

[sendero]

32. and won't it be nice...

.... to have some "teflon" on our team for a change :)

[slinkerwink]

12. I'm glad Gore endorsed Dean!

[alphafemale]

14. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt

Bush Must Go!

[eileen_d]

16. Gee, I missed all your smears on Clark

It's so nice to have you back... :eyes:

[newsguyatl]

23. ahhh

and it's so nice to see all you lovely clark supporters, too...lol


uncondescending as usual.

[never cry wolf]

17. Good on ya newsguy...

I am sorry so many here were so greedy for info that they attacked you personally for not breaking a pledge.

[KFC]

18. Hell, I predicted Gore's endorsement last summer

And last thursday I predicted that K State would beat Oklahoma 35-7.

Five years ago I predicted that Ben and J-Lo would get married.

I failed to predict the Carrot Top phenomenon, however.

[eissa]

20. I don't know how you did it

I would have burst trying to keep that juicy info secret! So, what else do you know?! Come on, you can tell me; I promise I won't tell! :bounce:

[CMT]

22. I can vouch for this

Newsguyalt confided this to me weeks ago.

[Demobrat]

24. Well thank goodness I can stop

doing searches on your name once a week to see if I've missed anything! It must have been hell keeping that to yourself.

[newsguyatl]

26. lol

it WAS hell... absolute hell...

and i'd basically branded myself creditless here, which really sucked...

but i'm glad it's just finally happened, obviously for dean's sake, but also for myself...

[w13rd0]

27. No one told me...

...but I knew anyway. After the MoveOn speech, I knew it was just a matter of timing. I'm thrilled, and proud that you were able to keep the secret ;)

Time to whack the Bush...

[onecitizen]

28. Newsguy! Welcome back!

I'd been wondering about you! Hey everybody has a bad day once in a while. Just don't leave us hanging again! I hope all is otherwise OK with you!

[newsguyatl]

29. thanks, onecitizen!

very kind of you...

[AP]

35. So CNN knows back in September about this, but it gets broken today?

That's some media we have.

[newsguyatl]

40. cnn

has NOTHING to do with what i find out in my personal life and post on a online discussion website... nothing at all.


believe me, folks at cnn just found this out today. i saw the reaction when it crossed the wires.

[AP]

55. I thought you said your boss let it slip at work. Do you work for CNN?

?

[Catherine Vincent]

36. Good thing you didn't spill the beans.

Gore endorsing Dean is not big news, imo.

[CWebster]

38. Damn--I guessed right

what else could it be.

Watch 'em all pooh-pooh Gore now...I came online expecting celebration and all there is is sour pouts.

[goobergunch]

41. There was celebration in the original thread

Don't know where that got to.

[CWebster]

49. glad to hear it

Too bad there are so many party poopers around.

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[mzmolly]

42. I Knew IT!!!

WOOOO HOOO! You must have been chompin at the bit.

[Duncan Grant]

43. Welcome back, newsguyatl!

Appreciate your integrity and original September post! I can only imagine how impatient you must have been for this story to break ;)!

Now, if you could just do something about the Robert Novak story (dead, lost, never happened)...I'll be very, very happy.

:toast:

[newsguyatl]

44. ha!

no one likes novak less than yours truly...


let's hope and pray that story comes back. i have a hunch it will ;-)

[NoKingGeorge]

60. It gave me hope. sorta...

I have been grasping at anything that showed some light for our Country. Looking EVERYDAY to see if you spilled the beans got old.
But I had hope there were beans to spill. Thanks, sorta.

[janx]

47. I remember that post well.

It's probably best that you don't do something like that again--for your sake. It sounds as if it led to some abuse.

Thanks newsguy. Yer all right!

[janx]

51. Important! Newsguy and all, I need your help in this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=854219


This place is imploding. Would you be so kind as to lend a hand?

[Wapsie B]

53. I saw this thread last night

and all I have to say is you've got to be frigging kidding me. This is the BIG news? Give me some dirt on chimpy and 9/11, or something about Jeff Christy. But this wasn't worth the buildup.

[Stuckinthebush]

57. Sure it was...

Newsguyatl said that it would transform the race, and it will.

He was right. Big news.

[TexasPatriot]

54. A Question

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/12/09/national1316EST0611.DTL

According to this article, the decision to endorse was very recent. Even this quote/event:

"About a month ago, Gore and Dean met privately in Tennessee for about 90 minutes. In deference to Gore's penchant for secrecy, Trippi didn't mention the meeting when he met a top Gore adviser, Roy Neel, later in the day."

would post-date a 'Gore was going to endorse in September' claim.

[Melinda]

59. Where does it say that Gore's decision was recent?

Trippi said he had a feeling Gore's endorsement was the big secret, but he didn't find out for sure until late Sunday night or Monday.

He said the courtship began in September 2002, when Gore gave a speech denouncing President Bush's position on Iraq. He said the address stiffened Dean's opposition, and the former Vermont governor praised Gore in conversations some time after the address.

The pair had several talks in the next 15 months, with Dean peppering Gore about foreign policy. In the last six months, they talked to each other every two weeks, mostly by phone.

About a month ago, Gore and Dean met privately in Tennessee for about 90 minutes. In deference to Gore's penchant for secrecy, Trippi didn't mention the meeting when he met a top Gore adviser, Roy Neel, later in the day.

<end>

The article says that President Gore didn't tell Dr. Dean until last Friday. How does that preclude President Gore from making his decision prior to that time?

Looks to me as if the two have been engaged for quite a long time... ;)

[Bread and Circus]

58. yawn, you are just making stuff up....it's December, not October..