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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:10 PM
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Poll question: Was Al Gore's Endorsement Premature? - the non-push-poll edition!
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:11 PM
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1. I vote NO. (n/t)
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moz4prez Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:12 PM
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2. considering that not a single vote had been cast in the primaries
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 08:13 PM by moz4prez
I vote yes.

it's no less a major boost for Dean.

edit: guffaw! what's with me skipping over words like that. "Dean and Clark in STATISTICAL DEAD according to latest Pew Poll!"
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:25 PM
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19. What's the sense in endorsing if it isn't going to influence votes?
He is endorsing so that he can sway votes.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:14 PM
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3. Depends on who you support...
If you're for Dean then the answer is no else it is yes.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:14 PM
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4. Yeah
Now when he endorses the winner, if it's not Dean, it won't have the same punch. IMO
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:19 PM
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9. it wouldn't have been a punch...
because as a Democrat, it is expected that Al Gore would endorse the winner. This was not expected.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:21 PM
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14. yeah I see your point
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:24 PM
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18. Hello....Wake up folks....
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 08:25 PM by liberalnurse
Dean will be the winner......

Gore's endorsement is a political orgasm!!!!!!
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:16 PM
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5. I vote no.
It's just a bunch of crybabies voting yes. Honestly, they would find no issue if Gore said "I'm for Clark" or "I'm for Kerry" or, Hell, "I'm for Moseley Braun."

Later.

RJS
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:21 PM
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15. I disagree
If he came out for my choice I'd still have a problem with it.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:23 PM
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17. Sorry, but I doubt it.
Honestly.

Later.

RJS
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:17 PM
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6. Only Because He Didn't Support "MY" Candidate!!!
:D

oh, i forgot....

Gore who??????

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:18 PM
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7. Wrong question
The question should be, should Al Gore have endorsed ANYONE?

I don't think he should have. He should have done a Hillary and said that he'd support whichever of the nine Democrats gets the nomination, because each one of them is a million times better than Junior.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:21 PM
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13. In a way, that is the question
Premature = pre-primary.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:19 PM
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8. Early
I think Gore should've let things play out awhile. BTW, I like Dean.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:19 PM
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10. Absolutely
If indeed it does happen. (I've been out at a meeting this evening so I'm not sure if it's a done deal yet.)
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:20 PM
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11. Oh c'mon
Sour grapes must be the only reason anyone would complain. How sad.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:20 PM
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12. i went with undecided
i dont think it's easy to say. On one hand, i think it obviously helps Dean (duh). He'll get a lot of money, it'll help make him 'safe' for party insiders to endorse, and it'll draw in the undecided voters who havent been paying attention (add the lieberman guys to that group in the polls... imo a lot of lieberman voters aren't really lieberman supporters, they're leftovers from 4 years ago)

But if that help takes Leibpharry out of the race earlier (rather than seeing them stick longer due to the primary dates) then it will likely gell the anti-dean vote into one candidate.

By putting Dean in front, it will likely make him the target of the attacks by all but Clark (it seems Clark is betting he's going to be the alternative candidate and taking the high road, for now) - so the likelyhood of sniping between camps makes it less and less likely of easily converting those voters as their candidates drop. If they drop earlier, and have a lowered opinion of dean, it could hurt him.

I still think it nets positive, but i'm not sure it wouldnt have been more effective if it happened a couple weeks from now.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:22 PM
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16. The ONLY ? is: Did Gore contribute to defeating Bush with this? ONLY ?.
Answer: Hell yeah!! and that's why it happened.

Dean '04...
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:25 PM
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20. Now THAT's an excellent point n/t
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:26 PM
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21. He endorsed when it actually means something
Rather than AFTER the front runner emerges. Finally some democrats with spines who are willing to take positions before they run a poll to make sure it's popular.

Good for Gore... and Dean.

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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:26 PM
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22. This is like the british Conservative leader elections
in some ways, there is something going on here that we were not privey to.

I'll take a shot.

The Democratic party decided they needed the maximum amount of time to campaign against bush* as possible.

The primary season was started very early and who was in the lead in october was going to be declared the winner by Gore. Then Clark joined the election a bit late, but made an early impression, so they put back the winning time a couple of months.

So now what happens is all the candidates pull out and Dean is declared the winner and it's chocs away for going at bush* for nearly an entire year.

Possibly but don't bet on it. :evilgrin:
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:28 PM
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23. The Timing was Just Perfect
Gore has a vested interest in our future.

Like me, he wants to see the BEST Democrat win in the primaries.

That means the candidate who is the most progressive, forward thinking, creative and just damn smart.

Gore wants the best for America.

THAT is why he endorsed Dean, why it was the right thing to do and why the timing was right: he forecloses the impact of a Clinton endorsement of Clark and dfraws a line in the sand against the DLC.

RIGHT ON AL! Thank You!!!

and God Bless.

Al Gore for UN Ambassador!!!
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:30 PM
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24. kick n/t
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Pegleg Thd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:55 PM
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26. I can't keep but thinking
that if Dean gets the nomination we will see Al Gore as his choice for the 2nd seat.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:53 PM
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25. kick n/t
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