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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:04 AM
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Salon: Uncovered, a film about Bush lies that is making the rounds. :)
Go here:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/12/09/uncovered/index.html

c. 9, 2003 | NEW YORK -- Early one morning in June, film director Robert Greenwald settled into the study of his Los Angeles home with the day's newspaper. Midway through an article was a seemingly innocuous quote from a Bush administration official assuring the country that weapons of mass destruction programs would be found in Iraq.

Greenwald says he got a knot in his stomach. The administration wasn't talking about finding actual weapons anymore. Now the rhetoric was about weapons programs, which might mean little more than sheets of paper. "I had no faith or confidence that the media would catch them on their moving of their goal," he says. "Suddenly, I could see the headline in a month where they're going to announce victory because they found programs. I flashed back on all those news conferences where they said Iraq is a danger and invoked Armageddon.

"I felt I could do a service by nailing them on this complete change in why they went to war," Greenwald says. "Two or three days later I read about this group of former CIA experts from different branches who were coming out against . I thought, 'Wow, this is interesting.' So I put the two instincts together." Thus the documentary "Uncovered: The Whole Truth About the Iraq War" was born. Within a few months, it was completed.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:14 AM
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1. Salon is part of the problem with the left
In this article, like most of those on Salon, they have to try to prove they are objective so they make some attacks on the film, rather than doing what the entire right wing media does and try to make people believe they are objective while never criticizing their own or allowing the other side to look good.

Salon is often cited as "liberal" but they spend as much time bashing liberals as anyone else. Where is the real liberal media?

The article is interesting, but I am sick of seeing Salon try to pretend to be objective when the right understands how the game is played.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:29 AM
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2. That attitude is part of the problem with the left.
Salon is one of the few decent news sources. They actually cover progressive issues, but also have some balance and will show the other side. If we only tolerate news sources that agree with us all the time, we won't have any left.

Esp given that members of the left are frequently in disagreement. (We aren't reading from KKKarl Rove's script like the right is.) There's no way Salon, or any good news org, could always be in agreement with the various factions of the left, even if they did pander just to us. And I'm glad they don't.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:37 AM
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3. Wrong, very wrong
We don't need news, we need propaganda and message.

The right has almost umlimited media propaganda and we have almost none.

We need a lot more left leaning versions of News Max, Drudge, and Washington Times.

As long as those on the left try to be "nice" or "fair" or any of that other bullshit, we will continue to be nice fair losers.

Salon is a great example of what is wrong with our side. Salon bashes the left to impress the right, thus allowing the right to decide what the left is by trying to prove that they aren't what the right thinks they are.
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