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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:16 PM
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Dean is running for the wrong job....
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 06:18 PM by usfbull2000
Disclaimer: I back Clark 100%, but I like Dean. This is not flame bait, but an honest observation and opinion. I really think it would be awesome if Dean had a position like Dem Leader in the House, or Senate. Part of our party's recent problems have been the pathetic leadership in Congress. Imagine Dean leading the charge in the House? The Repugs wouldn't screw with us. I like Pelosi, but Dean would be much better. Our Congressional leadership needs to take a stand to the NONSTOP barrage of horrible legislation from the Repugs. I don't think he is presidential, and that job does not best use his talents. ANyways, just my opinion. Since he launced his campaign, I've always thought he would be the perfect House Leader. No more Gephardts, no more Daschles...


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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:20 PM
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1. Bernie Sanders is the rep
I doubt that he'd run against Bernie but Jumpin' Jim will retire in '06.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:21 PM
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2. Jeffords will retire? I haven't heard that.
Linky?
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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:44 PM
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15. He'll be 72
It's assumed that he'll retire and relax in Vermont with his wife.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:22 PM
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3. Why would one go from the governorship to the house of reps
Personally there's already a candiate in the house, and if you want leadership, I think Dennis Kucinich though I would love him in the white house although its gonna be hard to happen, would make a great house leader.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:22 PM
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4. I don't know how you'd best Pelosi in the Medicare bill votes
She held the Democrats together until Bush twisted enough Republican arms to get them to finally vote for the bill and they had a majority.

There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we don't see but I tell you, I really took note of her accomplishments with the Medicare bill vote.

And, the Majority Leader is elected by the other representatives from that party. Do you think a majority of Democratic representatives would vote for Dean. Maybe, maybe not.
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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:25 PM
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6. I respect what Pelosi did....
...that was quite a feat. I still think Dean would be a natural as House Leader, and yes, I don't think he would have much of a problem getting the votes from the reps..


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armadafalls Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:24 PM
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5. Honest Observation
Well I doubt that most people are going to believe that your comments are not flame bait. I on the other hand believe you and agree with you some what. I think that all of the candidates are "presidential" but I agree that it would be a shame if we can't find a way to get all of these very qualified individuals a solid position in the next administration. I will vote for Kucinich in the primary, but will solidly support whoever wins the primary
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:28 PM
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7. Hi armadafalls!
Welcome to DU!

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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:28 PM
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8. yes, honest observation...
...many on DU are HYPERSENSITIVE, and that applies to supporters for all of the candidates. Dean would be a GREAT House Leader. :-)



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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:29 PM
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9. I agree that we do need some house cleaning.
First we need to get the Republican representatives out of many of the House of Representative seats that should be Democratic. Then we need to get rid of the Democratic Senators and Reps, who have gotten too comfortable making deals accross the aisle. I have nothing against compromise, but what has been going on is buying and selling of votes with a result of the selling out of the ordinary American. This Medicare sell out is the latest outrage. This insider's club needs to be busted up.

Dean will make a fine President.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:31 PM
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10. I agree
Dean is going to be one fine president.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:34 PM
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11. Well, I think that Clark should run for Rummy's job
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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:36 PM
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12. I respect your opinion...
...I also think Clark would be a good Sec. of Defense, but a great president. :-)


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Clark4Prez Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:38 PM
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13. We need more Dean-attitude in the house!
We need a Newt like presence (without the Nazi factor, obviously), some one who has a bulldog like attack on the issues that can put it in sound bites for the Faux News fans.

America likes a position that fits on a bumper sticker (mine says, "The Dixie Chicks where right!"). I love Dean's anger, it has a touch of give them hell Harry, we need more of that. We have been "nice" for far too long. And * runs over people who are nice to him, just ask the former Democratic Senator from Missouri.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:41 PM
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14. Welcome to DU
Nice post, like your bumper sticker!
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:56 PM
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21. It's coming.....
....go find a passionate Dem who will stand up for his beliefs and help him get elected to the House!!!

Why, here's one right now!!!!!

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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:44 PM
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16. I'm Sure A Whole Lot Of Legislation Would Pass
What Congress needs is a bridge builder that can bring Repukes over to our side, not a polarizer that will freeze Congress. When they called him Newt-lite, I don't think this is what they meant.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:33 PM
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17. I tend to agree with you
I think Dean would be better suited as a Dem attack dog than president.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:39 PM
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18. Dean Does Plan to Be in Congress
President Dean will be delivering the State of the Union Address in January, 2005, at the U.S. Capitol in front of both houses of Congress.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:49 PM
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19. I find you observation insulting
and wrong.

We don't need Dean there, we need a whole Congress full of people with as much spine, guts, courage, honesty and integrity as Dean.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:57 PM
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22. *cough cough*
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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:37 PM
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23. Insulting?! Why?
I think that he would succeed there. Is that so insulting? People need to stop living through their candidates. If Dean loses the nomination, that doesn't mean his supporters are losers. I swear, the political junkies are worse than football fans. If Dean was elected to the House or Senate, I would be very happy for him and our country. Not everyone in the world is suppossed to be president. Do what makes you happy, make the most of the talents that you possess, and do what you can do to make a positive difference. I don't think I will ever be a politician, but that does not bother me at all. I know that somewhere in life I WILL find a way to make a very positive contribution.



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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:54 PM
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20. I really like Pelosi
However, Daschle will likely retire in 2010 and if Dean were elected senator in 2006 (to replace retiring Jim Jeffords), he could be in contention then.
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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 09:10 PM
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24. Do you think Daschle will win this year?
nt



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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 09:55 PM
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25. kick
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:24 PM
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26. Dean might make a good Ambassador...
to the Soviet Union.

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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:25 PM
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27. why is that??
nt


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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:26 PM
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28. I think if Dean doesn't win the election (nomination or office).....
He'd make a wonderful senator from the great state of Vermont. Of course he'd have to wait until there was an open seat. I have NO doubt in my mind that Dean would win in a landslide if he were to run.

But of course it aint gonna happen because he'll be president, I just know it! :)
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