Can't you all see?

[Mass_Liberal]

Bush is the bad guy. Not Dean, not Kerry, Not Gore, Not Edwards, Not Sharpton, Not Gephardt, Not Mosley Braun, Not Kucinich, Not Clark. I'm sick to death of Democrats turning on eachother. Bush is the guy we should be focusing on attacking.

Note: I'm not trying to shut down dissent, or differences of opinion. But some people consistently talk about other dems like they are satan. They're all good people. What good are the primaries if the party shreds itself in the process?


Edit for forgetting Clark- REALLY SORRY bout that one

[robsul82]

1. No one sees.

That's the problem.

Later.

RJS

[Mass_Liberal]

2. peace out

bye.

[liberalmuse]

3. No, you're right.

What we've seen at DU lately is not mere dissent. It's outright attack, and the systematic picking apart of our Democratic candidates. I guess Bush must not be that bad, because it looks like battling amongst ourselves over petty differences has become more important than the possibility of him getting 4 more years.

[LeftCoast]

4. I believe some of these folks aren't Dem's at all

After all, folks that bash Dem candidates ARE doing Rove's work for him. Is it that far a stretch to think that some of them may be getting a paycheck for their efforts?

[BeFree]

12. You may be on to something, LeftCoast

Some of these remarks are from so far out in right field that one should wonder just where their loyalty lies.

[tom_paine]

16. Absolutely, LeftCoast

I agree wholeheartedly.

:kick: :kick:

[creativelcro]

20. agree... We have a lot of plants here at DU...

[kentuck]

5. It's hard to believe we Democrats would act that way...

It just doesn't sound very............intelligent.

[xultar]

6. What, no Clark? n/t

[Bucky]

7. OMG! That omission proves this person is an anti-Clark cultist!

No, Dammit! Deanies are NOT cultists!

[Mass_Liberal]

8. woops!!!

bad mistake. sorry.

[Mass_Liberal]

9. Kick

must get on first page. Arrrg

[Fleshdancer]

10. Dean isn't the anti-Christ???

wow. I need to take a brake from DU.

[JohnKleeb]

11. Youre right dude

Sigh for all our differences, we have more in common. I wonder why I give a damn at all at times :(. Your right though, they are all good people, its that damn Bush whos bad. See I can be idealistic and pragmatic all in the same breath, as we all can be.

[Kathleen04]

13. The Republicans are almost always united..

that's why we lose. If we allow our party to be splintered, while there's remains perfectly in tact..then, guess what folks?, we lose and get Bush for 4 more years.

[Bucky]

24. They value conformity. We value diversity

I still put my money on the long term prospects for the Democratic vision for America. In the long run Bush will be villified. In the short run a lot of kids in uniform are going to die needlessly. But in the end, I'm sure we'll be vindicated.

[SIBYL 16]

26. Who are we mostly made of? Our Party

Luke here. I would say one third if not one half Libertarian,Where are the Old school Democrats, have they left us? That might be one reason why,because we can't grab on to something solid like in the Kennedy Days.

[Le Taz Hot]

30. The Old School Democrats

are right here. We didn't leave the party (DLC) the party left us. In case you haven't noticed, we're in the process of taking it back.

[Beaker]

14. even lieberman?

nt

[cliss]

15. Well, I can tell you one thing I'm expecting

from the Rim-publicans. I fully expect them to fund one or two Democratic front-runners as long as they possibly can, just to divide us. For example, if Dean starts to sprint way ahead of the competition, they will start to fund Kerry, or maybe Clark.

Why? To keep us divided. I believe they will do it as long as they possibly can, all the way up to the convention. Maybe they're even logging on here to keep us whipped up with emotions. I don't know.

But I'm definitely beginning to suspect something with Joe "the Jester" Lieberman. The man should have the good sense to get out, but he's hanging on like a tick to a dog. Why? I believe the Rat-publicans are paying him to hang on.

[tom_paine]

18. Yes, Cliss...they were doing ONLY Watergate 30 years ago

They might have made a brief pause, but that's it. I believe their operation has now surpassed Watergate by light years in terms of it's criminal actvity, spying activity, etc. etc.

My belief is that a handful of provocateurs...professionals, are setting off the fireworks, and getting awfully good at it.

[rucky]

25. We're doing a fine job without their help

Why contribute $$ when lies are free?

[arewethereyet]

17. noone disagrees about Bush

but this process is about finding the best possible candidate to pu in the ring.

If you think we're being a little harsh wait till you see what the opposition has planned.

This is not a popularity contest, its a trial by fire. And its worse than that this time as the stakes are so much higher if for no other reason than we're likely to place some supreme court judges in the next term.

[BeFree]

19. Trial by fire?

When it gets around to Bush v The Dem, we shall see just what comes our way. Your littering on DU, arewethereyet, at this time is just that, littering. Throwing trash. Grow up.

[arewethereyet]

22. I did grow up and I saw how the world works

and its not pretty. sorry if this upsets you.

[BeFree]

27. You? Grown up? Fooled me.

Here I thought -- from reading your posts -- that you were some snot nosed little bully. Ha! Ya fooled me!

It's good to get shit offa yer chest. But when it's done in a place like this it amounts to nothing more than trash. Litter. If that's what ya want people to think of ya, well....

[jpgpenn]

21. Another Dean supporter pleading for peace...

after the baclash of the Gore mishap. its getting tired friend.

[SIBYL 16]

23. Gore made us sore

Peter here. Why did Gore have to stir up all these bad feelings amongst us when he should of thought about it before he did it. It's like he did not think of the Backlash that would come about with his endorsement. "Why Not" Go Figure, is he on the right side?

[BeFree]

28. Gore is at fault?!? Huh?

Just because he's the elected president and he supports someone who is not your pick you think you must dish your angst among us? What oddball reasoning makes you feel like he didn't consider his decision?

"Is he on the right side" you ask. WTF? He's the Democratic president. You think your smarter and better than him?

sheesh

[SIBYL 16]

29. Have you been paying attention?

Stalin here.It's not just me, Did the Other Contenders take it very well? Nooooop! They were all Pissed Off! "He's a bone head" look what he did to his old running mate. If he did it to you like that, you would say hey my old buddy "Thanks" I realy love you Man. Right!

[BeFree]

32. Paying attention?!?!? Is that a joke?

Who cares what his old running mate thinks?
Gore is against the Iraq invasion. So is Dean.
Joe is all for it. Gore showed it's not politics as usual with him.
He has set out to do the right thing..make peace, not war.

Folks like you take this far too personally, I guess.
Welcome to the new world of politics, Gore and Dean style.
Do the right thing for America, and damn the personl torpedoes.

[Bread and Circus]

31. Well, then why did your guy fire the first salvo?

That's a pretty important question if we accept your maxim, no?

Bottom line: Dean was the first one to repeatedly frag his fellow
Democrats. Don't forget it.

[BeFree]

34. No fragging

Just pointing out the obvious.
Invade Iraq or no?
Politics as usual or Take Back America.

Now, if you have proof of this "Frag" put it on the table.
Just throwing it out like so much litter dioes nothing for your reputation.

[Corgigal]

33. Who cares who was first

who was second, who was personal, who hit below the belt. Let the states have their election, then one of them makes it out and we work to get that person elected.

I have a 16 year old son who Bush would love to give to the military so I could give a rat ass which politician is playing politics. They ALL do, it's what they DO. It's how we voter are suppose to decide who is just a bit different from the rest.

You guys are acting like you have never seen this before. At least Dems don't attack and whisper, "he had a black child with a hooker".

[Blade]

35. I see it...

and I agree.