ABB?

[Mattforclark]

Poll question: ABB?

Personally I would prefer to see Clark win the nomination, but if he doesn't I am ABB.

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[TrueAmerican]

11. You are wrong

I will vote for Dean if he is nominated. I just hope he can win if he is.

[LeftCoast]

2. ABB - anyone who's not might as well be a republican!

IMHO :)

[goobergunch]

3. All the way. (n/t)

[jpgpenn]

4. more choices

and i would have voted in your poll.

[Mattforclark]

6. What choice do you want?

[jpgpenn]

8. I ...

wont vote if Dean is nominated. This Gore endorsement and their inferring that everyone should bow out was enough for me. It goes against everything we stand for in America, how dare they. I wont live with that.

If people chose to elect Dean, then let them live with the fact Bush will be in office 4 more years.

[Mattforclark]

13. I don't see

why getting Gore's endorsement would turn someone off that much. I think that any of the candidates would have been glad to take his endorsement if offered it.

Anywho, why doesn't your answer fit under the second option if you are really serious?

[jpgpenn]

19. It wasn't just the endorsement..

Gore stiffed everyone he ever dealt with in the past, Clinton, Rangel, everyone. He wants to do away with everything Clinton built up.

I don't know about you but creating 25 million jobs and giving our country the greatest economic growth of our history is something I want more of. I don't want to be taken fully away from it. What gives?

These are the ego trips of nuts in my opinion. Dean and Gore belong together. If Gore was stronger back then he wouldn't have concede the election.

[goobergunch]

21. So you're penalizing Dean for something Gore did? (n/t)

[jpgpenn]

29. Penalizing ?

Far from it. Dean is 100% politican,It is my opinion he is the last thing country should nominate
.

[Mattforclark]

23. I would think

that, if anyone

"Gore stiffed everyone he ever dealt with in the past, Clinton, Rangel, everyone. He wants to do away with everything Clinton built up."

would reflect poorly on Gore, not Dean. Gore is not part of ABB.

[jpgpenn]

30. I was trying to say

That Gore's endorsment was the icing on the cake for me. When that happens the tru colors of whats really going was out. I know i'm not the only 1 that has caught it.

[bubba_fett]

31. I don't think he was inferring that everyone else should bow out...

I think he was more inferring to the DLC that they should stop bashing a fellow democrat. Especially one who has such an immense grassroots following.

[Mattforclark]

5. We have at least 2 traitors in our midst

We must hunt them down and burn them! Witch! Witch! We have found a witch!

[genius]

7. THere are a great many loyal Democrats who could not vote for Dean

You seem to be lacking a catagory that covers these people of conscience. I don't want to one day tell my grandchildren that I voted for a guy who pushed to make California's water supply radioactive or who cut services so his rich backers could get tax breaks, or who wanted to balance the budget on the backs of the middle class and the poor or who supported a bloody occupation of another country. People of conscience are hoping Dean won't get the nomination. I doubt that those who oppose Dean will vote for Bush or Nader. Most of them won't vote or will write in the name of a Democrat.

[Mattforclark]

9. Then

"I don't want to one day tell my grandchildren that I voted for a guy who pushed to make California's water supply radioactive or who cut services so his rich backers could get tax breaks, or who wanted to balance the budget on the backs of the middle class and the poor or who supported a bloody occupation of another country."

Don't vote for Bush.

[goobergunch]

10. Nice one!

:thumbsup:

[Mattforclark]

15. except Bush doesn't even want to balance the budget

even on the sweating backs of the middle class.

[genius]

22. Good. I'd rather have services than a balanced budget

I think you'll find that outside of Dean's share of the Democratic Party the balanced budget won't pull in any votes.

[Mattforclark]

27. Sadly

Bush wants neither services nor a balanced budget.

[billbuckhead]

16. Bush vs Dean would be a pathetic spectacle for America

On one side we have a spoiled rich kid party animal who panders to the NRA, Confederate flag wavers and the Cato institute and on the other we have...........................

[genius]

24. Good point

I can't believe the Democrats are thinking of nominating a Republican.

[goobergunch]

25. Dean switched parties? (n/t)

[Mattforclark]

28. News to me N/T

[genius]

20. Or Dean That is where they were in agreement.

Mini-Bush Dean is not an option.

[JohnKleeb]

12. ABB

I'll admit that I prefer other candiates to others but I'll support the nominee. After all, the final prize is getting Bush out, :shrug: isnt it.

[SOteric]

14. Not ABB, not a Freeper

I have not yet publicly or firmly come out in favour of any one specific candidate. This is not because I'm wishy-washy. For the sake of Skinner's straw poll earlier this year I went with the candidate I was leaning toward most heavily at the time.

I have a short list of three candidates I would be happiest with. In truth I will stand behind pretty much any Democrat on the ballot. You'll note I said "pretty much." I don't consider myself ABB. I don't have a candidate I'm going to bash at this moment, so all you candidate loyalists who might be sufficiently bored as to be reading this far down in the thread can untwist your knickers now.

At this point in my examination of the candidates, there isn't a glaring misstep any of the candidates has made that would cause me to completely rule them out. I leave the space in my declaration for ABB because in the short experience of my life the better part of wisdom and my combined life lessons have too often presented a new variation of the old saw "out of the frying pan, into the fire." And perhaps not without reason, those life lessons always seem to be delivered in close proximity to the utterance of the phrase "nothing could be worse than this."

So rather than commit to any candidate, I insist on intense scrutiny. I conceive it possible that there could be someone worse than Bush and that someone could possible be running as a Democrat or a progressive. History is resplendent in example of incompetent and perfidious rulers, even if few were American presidents. And a time when so many Americans are deeply disappointed in the administration is a time ripe for a desperate population to vote in a candidate without intense scrutiny.

What disappoints me most in all the poo-flinging that goes on in this forum with regard to candidates is that one cannot scrutinise a candidate with that level of exacting detail while engaged in loyalist behaviour.

I'm not ready for the tin-foil hat, but I intend to vote with my eyes wide open.

[Mattforclark]

17. That is admirable

I think you deserve an option.

[Mattforclark]

18. nm

dontread

[bpilgrim]

26. ABB.mp3 ----------------------------------------------- LINK

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randi_audio/abb.mp3

thanks randi and crew :toast:

peace

[wiley]

32. I want Clark/someone, but

you'd have to pry the shotgun out of my cold, dead hands before I voted for G.W.Bush. Yes, I said even Dean if necessary, but he is so slippery of late. Nevertheless, anyone but Bush.

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[Walt Starr]

33. At this point, I'd take Zell Miller over Bush

ABB baby.

[hellhathnofury]

34. Zell!

I wouldn't vote for that traitor. We should at least keep the meaning in Democrat. Besides Bush would be termed out after another 4 years whereas Zell would have 8. Would there be any difference between Zell and Bush?

[newyawker99]

36. Hi cynicalSOB1!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[mitchtv]

35. Let me bore you youngsters

I am a Democrat, I will support the nominee of my party. you others,who will refrain from that position, are sore loser babies and deserve what you get

[Padraig18]

37. ABB

Even JL would be a monumental improvement over *!

[sujan]

38. No to ABB