Kucinich on CNBC

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Anyone catch him on Capital Report a few minutes ago? He said ABC is punishing him by pulling their reporters off of his campaign. The talking heads were obviously scared of him and what he was saying about Media pushing certain candidates over others.

He said Dean was winning because of Media covering his campaign more than others. He said the polls were directly related to amount of coverage and I could see the heads squirming as they tried to debunk his charges. Kucinich is gaining a huge following since his appearance and what he said on last nights debate. Media is really nervous about giving him bad press over essentually the truth and they know it.

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1. dupe oops

[blm]

2. Yes!!! Thankyou Dennis for speaking the truth.

Let ALL the truth come out and let the chips fall where they may. This Dem primary is SO manipulated by the media it's shameful.

[genius]

3. Good for Dennis

It's about time.

[mmm]

4. I look to Dennis for the truth

always

[berner59]

5. he was great...

and he proved his point because they still didn't get what he was talking about... All they kept saying was how Dean became the front AFTER he raised all that money...duh - that's what he's saying!! The media jumped on him because of the money!!

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6. I think the rise may happen

Hes getting quite a bit of coverage(see media is the problem I even said media) since his debate last night. People really cheered and I think media is sitting up and taking note that they are sooo far out of touch with the people. This cheer sent them a message. People are really pissed because the airwaves belong to the people, not the corporations. They seem to think it belongs to their advertisers and they couldnt be more wrong.

The Airwaves are meant to be for the good of the people. THEY DO NOT BELONG TO THE CORPORATIONS!!!!

[MuseRider]

7. A lot of truth telling

will eventually get you some press. Way to go DK!

[snoochie]

8. Thanks for the overview

I missed it but hopefully I can catch the repeat later.

Thanks again :)

[DemBones DemBones]

9. Do the media really not understand that the candidates get it

(Dean included, if he's honest with himself) and the people get it? Don't they know we see the coverage Dean gets (Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean) and the coverage the others get in comparison.

Time to e-mail people in media -- heads of networks, talking heads, etc. -- and include newspapers -- letters to the editor of even your local paper that has no reporters covering the candidates. Newspapers may enjoy talking some trash about tv news getting so far away from journalistic ethics.

[IndianaGreen]

10. Regardless of which candidate we support, we should be PISSED

about what ABC is doing, which is nothing short of preventing the American people to hear what Democratic Presidential candidates have to say.

ABC News Pulls Reporter off Kucinich Campaign
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 10, 2003

The day after Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich took ABC debate moderator Ted Koppel to task for avoiding questions that would be useful to voters in favor of questions about endorsements, money, and polls, ABC pulled its fulltime "embedded" reporter from the Kucinich campaign, a reporter who had been given no warning that such a move was coming and who had discussed at length yesterday with the Kucinich campaign staff her plans and her needs for the coming months.

ABC has reportedly also pulled its reporters from covering the presidential campaigns of Rev. Al Sharpton and Ambassador Carol Mosley-Braun.

This appears to be another instance of what Kucinich criticized at the debate, namely the media trying to pick candidates, rather than letting the voters do so. In a democracy, it should be voters and not pundits or TV networks who narrow the field of candidates.

This move, before any state's caucus or primary, appears based on a belief that viable candidates can be predicted 11 months prior to an election, a belief that flies in the face of the historical record. Time and again candidates dismissed as "fringe" have wound up either with the nomination or with a significant impact on the convention and in the primaries.

This action by ABC, as well as Koppel's comments during the debate, can only serve to disempower Americans, communicating to them that someone other than they is deciding elections and that their votes don't mean much.

This action also seems to conflict with the network's interest in boosting ratings and Koppel's expressed interest in making the debate exciting, given that Kucinich received the loudest applause of the evening.

ABC presumably has no vested interest in discouraging voting or in lowering its ratings. It may, however, have an interest in whether Koppel's prediction of the viability of various candidacies proves true.

For more information: http://www.kucinich.us

For Rep. Kucinich's Schedule: http://www.kucinich.us/schedule.htm.

http://www.kucinich.us/pressreleases/pr_121003.php

[cryofan]

11. Google search of nytimes.com shows Dean ==120 hits and Kucinich ==4 hits

"dennis kucinich" == 4 mentions

"howard dean" == 120 mentions

[snoochie]

12. Wow

It's worse than I'd thought.

Think it'll change now that Kucinich has made some waves?

[PissedOffPollyana]

13. One can only hope.

At least he's getting the message across when they finally give him the mic. People are at least getting part of the picture, enough to make them want to know more.

Keep up the pressure, Dennis, and don't let up!

[ThirdWheelLegend]

14. No its not that!

It's the baseball bats!

/sarcasm off

:)

It is very obvious that 90% of the poll results are name recognition at this point. Most registered voters can barely name one candidate. And when they are polled and they only have heard of 1 or a few they are gonna vote the one they have heard of the most.

Kucinich may finally be getting some attention at the expense of ABC trying to avoid giving him that attention! LOL

GO DENNIS!

TWL

[cryofan]

18. Exactly! And "name recognition" poll responders are less likely to vote

These polls ask people whether there are likely to vote, and then records their response if they say they are likely to vote. But as you said, at this stage, a huge percentage of poll responders are simply going on NAME RECOGNITION, which is of course directly proportional to the NUMBER OF MEDIA MENTIONS of a candidate. And of course the corporate media knows this--and that is why they are pumping up Dean: they like his evidenced Republicrat leanings (see Vermont).

But when it comes to actually voting, the Kucinich supporters are FAR MORE PASSIONATE than all this NAME RECOGNITION poll responding sheeple. In fact, by my estimate, Kucinich supporters are 2 or 3 times more passionate about him than supporters of any other candidate. So when the first primaries go down, the Kucinich supporters will be out there voting at a much greater rate than those Iowa and NH name recognition sheeple.

Actually, the huge lead by Dean is a Good Thing for Kucinich: this huge lead will engender a sense among the name recognition sheeple that the contest is in a sense already over, and this will cause a lessened name recognition sheeple voting rate. The bigger the lead by Dean, the higher the percentage vote for Kucinich.

I will predict that whatever poll numbers Kucinich actually has when the IA and NH primaries go down, his actual vote will be twice that. For example, if he goes into Iowa polling at 3%, he will actually get 6%. If he goes in with 8%, he will get 16%. And in Iowa, you need 15% to be able to be assigned delegates (Another way the egalitarian Democrat Party keeps populist and dissident candidates from success).

Our job is to get Dennis to 8%, and to raise as much money as possible in the next month, as in about one month, he will get matching funds, I believe.

[sandnsea]

15. Look at this

"john kerry" has 77; "wes clark" 5 & "wesley clark" 21 & "general clark" 40. Edwards 40 and Gephardt 21. Braun 17, Sharpton 21. My Howard Dean came up with 145. That is just wild. There shouldn't be that kind of disparity between these candidates.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

16. shhhhh

The polls tell the truth!!

shhhh!

TWL

[JohnKleeb]

17. wow

:wow:
amazing isnt it.

[wheresthemind]

19. got it tivoed will watch soon!

Go Go Dennis!

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