Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who Will Use the "F" Word First?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:24 AM
Original message
Poll question: Who Will Use the "F" Word First?
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 01:24 AM by BullGooseLoony
Of course, I'm talking about "fascist."

Will this word be used to describe Bush any time in the campaign? If so, by whom?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
1. I don't see it happening...
It may be true, but I don't think they'd actually use it. The other "F" word maybe when they think the mic is off. And of course, the shrub will use "F"reedom repeatedly as if it's a product he's selling.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. It seems it is out there as an option, during the primary...
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 01:38 AM by BullGooseLoony
Every candidate has gotten a boost of some kind when they've stepped up their attacks on Bush...Kerry used "fuck"...I just think it might be a good tactic for a candidate who's looking to make a really big splash. Of course, Clark would never do that....he's critical of Bush, but he doesn't get nasty like that...but, Dean might, Kucinich might, Sharpton might....

On edit: Yeah, you know what- I think Kerry would be the most likely candidate- change one Dean vote to Kerry. Kerry needs that word more than any other candidate, I believe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:23 AM
Response to Reply #1
10. it IS a product he's selling
I just don't like his particular model.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
2. damn
I thought that it was about Kerry saying the other F-word. Some Bush aide complained about it. The most appropriate response was to tell the aide to go FUCK himself:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
3. I could see Dean saying it......
I mean he brought up the thought of Bush knowing about 9-11.

Dean isn't scared, that is why I'm gonna love a debate between Dean and Bush!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:35 AM
Response to Original message
4. Well, Jerry Nadler Already Has
but I'd imagine it would be Dean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:37 AM
Response to Original message
6. I WILL! Or my husband or brother will.
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 01:41 AM by janx
We already have, many, many times!

Noun, adjective, adverb...it comes in handy.

P.S. Many ancestors who died for this country, since before it was a country, enhance the explative.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:51 AM
Response to Original message
7. Oh "fascist"
I thought you meant the F-Bomb, which John Kerry has already dropped in an interview with Rolling Stone mag. And can I just say that this is really unfortunate. I mean, damn, I have no problem with cursing, but public officials should have a little more class.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:53 AM
Response to Original message
8. I think they'll avoid using it because to do so throws most

debates or discussions into chaos. It's like the rule (somebody's "law") that says the first person to refer to Nazis or Hitler in an internet debate/ argument loses. Most people don't understand that fascism can and does exist without goose-stepping soldiers in the streets and atheism being proclaimed the state "faith." You say "fascist" and they see Mussolini. And Dubya's just a good old boy, doesn't look a thing like Il Duce.

If anyone decides to use it, he needs to choose his words carefully and explain that he is talking about too much corporate influence on government, basic fascism, not the uniforms or the atheism. (Though he might want to mention the Patriot Act. . .)

I don't know if using such a charged word is worth the risk, really. It would wake some people up but likely scare others away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:11 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. It's true that it would be very risky...however...
I think the word fits.

Let's look at Bush:

He invaded a sovereign country, unprovoked- for money.

He's given billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars to his corporate buddies.

He controls information flow in the media, and does his best to make sure the people do not know what it going on in the government. We now have some media that are only thinly veiled propaganda outlets for Bush.

He lies all the time, and calls those who question his policies "unpatriotic," using fear to control what people do and do not say.

He (and most of Congress) passed the Patriot Act, and are trying to pass a second, more extreme version, infringing on our basic rights as Americans.

He uses liberals as scapegoats, blaming them for our country's problems.

The only things this guy hasn't (obviously) started doing yet are killing his political opponents (although that's arguable) and genocide.

Do we really want to wait for that before we start calling him what he is?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:40 AM
Response to Original message
11. Lieberman, but he'll use it against Dean
Bush is a fascist. I don't believe it's hyperbole. But I think it would be ruinous for a candidate to call him one, because the word itself would become the story, not Bush's fascism, which would only harm the Democrat, not Bush.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar 13th 2025, 05:49 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC