I think the Right is starting to cave in

[Must_B_Free]

Yahoo Message boards are in Cut-Paste propaganda mode. They are really getting desperate.

Every day people I run into do not favor the war. I have never heard anyone in public say anything in support of the war.

Even on my yahoo tech group someone posted rw propaganda about santa clause and the troops and I blasted him back with a timeline of the lies and deception and someone else on there agreed with me.

Also I don't really believe the polls showing all this support for Bush. Everyone knows this whole thing is a big sham. That was exactly the word my neighbor used, who is a former Air Force serviceman.

And the whole re-election issue is so extremely laughable already. There is no reason in hell to elect Bush again. He hasn't had a success at anything. He is a complete and utter washed up failure who stabbed everyone in the back in one way or another.

[La_Serpiente]

1. That is how next year is going to be

Bush will defeat Bush.

[polpilot]

10. As the Guard is deployed the people will gravitate to Dean and renounce

Bush.

Dean '04

[ClintonTyree]

2. I've said this all along...............

when polled, people will give answers that appear to make them sound patriotic and supportive. However, in the privacy of a voting booth I believe in my heart of hearts, that people will vote with their conscience. Anyone with a conscience would have a hard time pulling the lever, pushing the button, or marking a ballot for Bush.

[izzie]

3. Well he did half of one thing he said. May be 2 halfs

He gave a big tax cut but not to the middle class but to mostly rich. He did say he was going to give a tax cut.But yes to the middle class. So one half is right. He will also claim the drug thing to the old but for the life of me I do not understand that yet and it looks like it is going to cost me $35 a month if I wish to get into program and have to take about 10 types a pills a day to get anything. I do not know if that helps any one but the drug companies.It looks like a hand out to the drug companies of the old peoples SS checks. Why not just send their checks to the companies and forget the middle men, the old people. I could be wrong. I really need to read more on just what the drug bill means.

[rfranklin]

4. Remember Willy Horton...

Rove will come up with some totally bogus issue that will grab the attention of the voters in the middle--the ones that shift with the prevailing winds. He will try to demonize the Democratic candidate so they will vote for Bush by default.

[lostnfound]

5. That's right. What's happening with the Plame affair?

Can't the Dems tie Rove up in some massive investigation -- better yet, lock him up -- until the next (s)election is over?

[sendero]

9. Yes...

.... and it's our job to pick a candidate that can take that BS head on and neutralize it.

I'll refrain from mentioning the names of the men I think actually have that talent :)

[Lexingtonian]

6. yep

The ship's taking on more and more water.

The Bushies have shameless used up every little bit of bias, benefit of the doubt, and goodwill given them so far. As well as every prejudice in their side's favor. Milked every little bit as far as it will go and then looked for new bait for the remaining suckers. As bad as the outrages and looting have been, the comfort is that they're shooting for utter, complete, unavoidable political bankruptcy of their side.

Bush's re-elect rating (the minimal votes he'll get) has been scraping around 40%-42% for three months. His approval rating (in practice the upper limit on the votes available to him) has bumped along in the low 50s for the same period of time as he has used up new baits and excuses and obfuscations. But Zogby has him at the magical 49% now- the next slump is becoming obvious. He gambled everything on the Iraq endeavor.

They're still out there, the Bush voters. Long term trends say he has- at equal rates of turnout- ~45% social conservatives and conservative leaners who will ultimately forgive him just about anything he does overseas as long as he lives up to his billing domestically as he has. 2%-3% will vote third party 'cause they're that kind of people. Our side is shakier but- at equal turnout- has ~48% in returning Clinton/Gore voters (if we have a nominee who is appropriately adept and close to type) and 5% leaners, new voters, and late breakers.

Bush is obviously going to exploit and use up every last slander, myth, and outdated -or not- stereotype of Democrats. He has no intention or ability of winning informed or Democratic-leaning peoples' votes. November 2004 is a mini-Armageddon, a real attempt to create a one-time showdown for all the marbles. For their side, it's a war into which they're now drafting the last teenagers and feeble retirees to fight. Final stands are ugly, but final.

[drfemoe]

8. just think of all the damage he will do

once he does start "campaigning". Some advisors are saying start early, right after the state of the union.
What is he going to promise next????

He can't lay claim to any true accomplishments, other than pillaging and abusing the American People (the true 'government'), our allies, AND our enemy of the day.

sheesh . yes . FINAL . pass/fail

[drfemoe]

7. hey .. I ran by slate too

Last year if you weren't ready to put combat boots all over sad***m's face, you just weren't MURICAN .. traitor!

I couldn't tender my opinion to anyone I knew without hearing a replay of the marketing messages pumped out by the potus, et al.

gawd .. the march to war, and now the horror of it can't be hidden.
The other day on DU someone mentioned "the tipping point" .. I've read that book. It was used to get us in this atrocity, and the same principle can get 'them' OUT.

I'm collecting RW ABB articles. :bounce: