John Kerry: The Dean Sign on my office door . . .

[patrice]

Stays, and I'll be removing myself from your e-lists.

You know I am very tired of people thinking I am some sort of spoiled child who cannot tolerate, nor understand anything other than the perfect candidate. I'm a grown up. All of us were lied to about this war. I am a rational person I tested the war idea from the first that I heard of it, even though my own personal immediate opinion the minute I picked up the first war "Suggestions"/Lies was that George had just SHIT, or vomited, (literally) in the nest. I analyzed what was being said nonetheless. Much of what I have understood about America being suckered by some people in Iraq, and have said so to my elected representatives' staff people, has come almost exactly true. I have never been for this war, but I had to understand those who are/were, so I thought through the reasons to support it. This is what a rational person DOES, then she makes her decisions, and I also EXPECTED us to find SOME!!! Weapons.

Nothing has been FOUND, or at least not much!

And we can't find anyone, OBL, Saddam, his first in commands . . . ! Afghanistan totters on the brink, not to mention Pakistan.

More and More Money! LOTS AND LOTS OF IT! For a LONG Time . . . MORTGAGING our Childrens' Lives!!!

I am ashamed of John Kerry for treating us like we stupid little children have not looked at John Dean WARTS AND ALL, John! Like we don't know what we are doing.

CHRIST! (. . . and this is a Prayer!) I'm sick and tired of being treated like a stupid child who cannot rationally respond to complexity!!!!

Kerry just lost me. We'll have to take OUR own Responsibilities for the Environment with the Greens perhaps, because I don't see a champion in John Kerry anymore. I used to say he had class . . . I am very disappointed that he knows so little about me and many other grown ups who will put Howard Dean in the nominations at the Democratic Convention.

Sorry about flaming like this, but I am very tired of being treated like some kind of dumb, child who can't understand how Howard Dean, just like the rest of us, had to rationally process the "SUGGESTIONS!!!" - Lies - of the war making machine in this administration. Cheney was in complete control. I've been against this war from the first instant it was a remote possibility that somebody dreamed up to control the Pentagon or some political group, and make money for someone, with the support probably all of those voting Pentagon Contractors out there who make their livings on wars. Wars R US. And other growing Government jobs. The ONLY jobs there are!

Not MY president.

[Walt Starr]

1. Poop

:hurts:

[eileen_d]

3. Geez, you're pooping on pro-Dean threads now?

:think:

[Walt Starr]

4. I poop on negative threads

I don't care which candidate is being dumped on, when I see somebody poopiing on a Dem candidate, I poop back.

:evilgrin:

[eileen_d]

5. Oh, I see

Maybe we should start calling you "Triumph" ;)

[blm]

12. heheh...

good answer

[mzmolly]

7. Walt's on exlax today ....

;)

[patrice]

13. That's exactly my first reaction! POOP!!!!! - eom

[patrice]

17. J. Baker - Super Poop pickeruper! - eom

[WhosNext]

2. What are you talking about?

I don't even understand your post. Are you quoting Kerry?

[patrice]

14. It was on cable this morning. I turned it off. - eom

[mzmolly]

6. I think I get what your saying, and I agree.

Your saying Kerry is stating the obvious, and it's a waste of time. Agreed! :toast:

[patrice]

15. This is how the human brain works.

I used to teach cognition. No - disonance = no thought!

[Cheswick2.0]

8. I hear ya

I too am sick of being told I don't understand the complexities. Hang in there, you will probably be flamed.

Please join us in the lounge for the FEEL THE LOVE THREAD. You will need it to lower your blood pressure.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=522786&mesg_id=522786

[patrice]

16. Oh I Love Love. But I've got to go pretty soon. - eom

I'll be back later.

[mb7588a]

9. What is this in response to?

I mean directly, how have you been directly treated like a child by John Kerry? He email you a GapBaby t-shirt with John Kerry '04 on it or something?

[Ediacara]

10. Let me paraphrase for you:

Kerry: " The war vote is far too complex for meer mortals like Howard Dean to understand, and shame on him for not trusting George Bush and Dick Cheney."

[patrice]

18. Exactly! - Just let "us" tell you what to think! - eom

[blm]

11. Sorry, but just last night here at DU a Deanie said prove Dean supported

Biden-Lugar. Point being that they DID NOT KNOW that he was OK with Bush having the power to determine use of force even unilaterally. They DID NOT KNOW. The press never talked about it and it is not Kerry's fault that he is STUCK prodding the press.

Dean didn't tell you and his audiences that he was for Bush having power to go to war, even unilaterally, did he? Even while he was attacking others on that exact same point. You may have been fine with it as you learned about it, but most people really don't know and they might not be happy to hear it....can you blame them?

Who will tell the people the truth? Does truth matter?

It bothered many of us Democrats who fought progressive battles for the last two decades that the Democrats we were fighting WITH were now labeled "Bushlite" and corrupt Washington insiders. What was being told to us? That we were wrong all those years? Was that OK with you?

[patrice]

19. I've known it for several months. I am a responsible person. - eom

[blm]

20. Then Kerry wasn't talking to you. He was enlightening those who did not

know and might appreciate the information that the press avoided examining.

[DemBones DemBones]

21. But everyone has NOT known it and is NOT as responsible as

you. It's diffficult for anyone to address the electorate without telling the well-informed what they already know.

Do you also object to Dean repeating himself, telling you things you already know about other candidates?

[patrice]

23. I do wish they wouldn't repeat themselves too much.

Sorry, about the John Dean typo. I'm old, and going too fast all of the time.

[slinkerwink]

22. welcome to the Dean campaign!

:hi:

[patrice]

24. They don't have to play the guitar for us. I prefer Clapton, anyway.

Or Neil Young, or S.R. Vaughn (may he rest in peace . . . and Jimi!).

[slinkerwink]

25. heh, you're still welcome

;-)